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Tomb Raider I-III Remastered from Aspyr - IV-VI coming on February 14th

Jvegi

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I'm assuming "offensive depictions of people and cultures" refers to the south-pacific tribe.
I'm thinking it refers to the Italians.
 

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One of better gaming news in like...forever. True Lara is back.

Now just cancel that shitty 2013-2018 ugly fat version and let's go to business.
 

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I'm happy this remaster will bring in more attention to classic Lara, so that's a win. Still expecting it to be buggy and unplayable, though. I guess we'll find out tomorrow.
 

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According to early reviews all attention was directed at the base games, I'm guessing the early levels especially, and the expansions only got AI-upscaled textures and none of their unique 2D assets were converted into 3D.

These remasters have no future unless they are just as moddable as the classics.

And, this remaster collection should really be retitled as "Tomb Raider - He's Prettier Than She Is".

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Also this "Pierre" got censored, as I expected. The (formerly) topless pin-up on the back of his jacket is there, but it's wearing a bikini.
 
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According to early reviews all attention was directed at the base games, I'm guessing the early levels especially, and the expansions only got AI-upscaled textures and none of their unique 2D assets were updated into 3D.

These remasters have no future unless they are just as moddable as the classics.

And, this remaster collection should really be retitled as "Tomb Raider - He's Prettier Than She Is".

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Also this "Pierre" got censored, as I expected. The pin-up on the back of his jacket is there, but it's wearing a bikini.
Looks like a newer-age Sim
 

Baron Dupek

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it's out
093F3700E99B7C50717AB4E151782DA4EB9212B0

flashback time!

For anyone bothered triggered by trigger warning here's solution:
Go to: \Tomb Raider I-III Remastered\1\TEXT
Then select your language and in that folder you find the file: COMMON.TXT
Line 139 & 140
 

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It seems to me that the textures of the original graphics in this remaster are worse than the originals.

Well you have both the remasters and the original T3 installed, post some comparison screenshots.
I don't have the remasters, I'm basing this off of footage from reviews.

From what I've seen many videos of the remasters have texture filtering disabled for original graphics, and it's possible that some of the new rendering features may have crept into the og graphics, like for example maybe the lighting is slightly darker with both. It didn't seem like it though. This also makes me wonder if texture filtering can be toggled at all for og graphics, right now there aren't even any graphics options in the menu. That must be because the PC and console versions are at this point more or less identical, the PC version better get some in-game options at some point.

Still, I assume texture filtering is considered decline on the Codex because it makes textures blurry asf when the texture resolution is as low as it is in old games like Quake 1/2 and classic Tomb Raiders.
 
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Lacrymas

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It could just be me, though. I just fired up an old save from Tomb Raider 2 and the textures seem as pixel-y as in the review footage, but I'd have to directly compare them to know for sure. The textures of the original graphics in the footage just struck me as extremely pixelated and jarring comparing to when I'm playing the originals.
 

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It seems to me that the textures of the original graphics in this remaster are worse than the originals.

The entire segment covers this. You are getting a middle ground between all the versions when it comes to classic graphics.
 

Baron Dupek

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Anyone know how to climb down with modern control?
By climbing down I mean facing back to the edge, press Action+Back and Lara starts crouching and grab the legde...
So apparently Crystal Dynamics simply couldn't govern themselves and added a little bonus to these remasters, shown when you boot them:

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I'm assuming "offensive depictions of people and cultures" refers to the south-pacific tribe. Firstly, this tribe is entirely realistic. Many such isolated and hostile peoples exist today. And secondly, they don't give a shit about how white devils depict them in their visual lore. Only western baizuo commies do. It has been known for a while that Crystal are about as woke as Netflix, and they absolutely loathe the original Tomb Raider franchise, especially its original incarnation of Lara.

offensive content in question:
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Is this any good chaps? I'm starving, ravenous in fact, for decent games to play and sorely tempted to buy it.
The original Tomb Raider trilogy is good, yes. Great, in fact. Whether these remasters are worth it is another matter.
 

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The first previews are out. I honestly don't think these games needed remasters, they are still pretty good and I played 1-3 recently.

Can you recall any examples of what the lunatics might consider racist depictions today?

I played this shit 20 years ago, can't remember jack.
 

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Probably the South Pacific islanders or the Tibetan monks, but it's more likely that the disclaimer is just there so they can cover themselves. It won't refer to anything in particular, it's just a shield against the inevitable Kotaku and Polygon articles (written by freelancers who don't really believe what they're writing but need SEO cash) about how "Tomb Raider needs to confront its colonial past" or w/e.

They also probably don't trust people to realise that Lara is meant to be an amusingly aloof and uncaring anti-hero, and that you're not meant to necessarily approve of her treatment of archaeological sites and other cultures. Or that the games take place in a pulp-y heightened reality where everything's a bit ridiculous, hence Australian soldiers (with highly over-exaggerated accents) fighting velociraptors, and Lara gunning down half the population of Italy.
 

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Whether these remasters are worth it is another matter.

Worth buying for the reason alone that Crystal Dynamics wants them to flop. They're about to release TR12 soon-ish, and don't want the "problematic" classic franchise to overshadow theirs. I won't pull the trigger until Aspyr releases some significant patches first, though.
 

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Can you recall any examples of what the lunatics might consider racist depictions today?
I haven't played through 3 fully yet, so probably the South Pacific islanders like already mentioned, but I haven't gotten to them yet. As for 1 and 2, I honestly have no idea. The Tibetan monks don't seem overly "offensive" to me (maybe it reminds some people of oonga boonga Africans with spears? That's a stretch, though) and it's not like Bartoli's minions in 2 are depicted as anything in terms of Italian stereotypes, they are just generic goons. I'm not overly sensitive to "problematic representation", but I can sniff it out when it's particularly egregious or noteworthy. Maybe Pierre as a French stereotype in 1? That's a Stretch Armstrong reach, but who knows.
 
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Lacrymas

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They also probably don't trust people to realise that Lara is meant to be an amusingly aloof and uncaring anti-hero, and that you're not meant to necessarily approve of her treatment of archaeological sites and other cultures. Or that the games take place in a pulp-y heightened reality where everything's a bit ridiculous, hence Australian soldiers (with highly over-exaggerated accents) fighting velociraptors, and Lara gunning down half the population of Italy.
Lara is in it for herself mostly, but that's what makes her fun. You can debate whether she's right to keep invaluable artifacts in her home instead of donating them to museums or scholarly research, I guess. She doesn't make money off of them, canon lore says she writes books of her adventures, so she's not a bounty hunter in that sense.
 

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I think it'd be better if we just ignored the whining of the mentally ill and enjoyed the games as intended. Fuck it ill probably buy it, I haven't played these through in years and I'm stuck for things to play at the moment.
 

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They also probably don't trust people to realise that Lara is meant to be an amusingly aloof and uncaring anti-hero, and that you're not meant to necessarily approve of her treatment of archaeological sites and other cultures. Or that the games take place in a pulp-y heightened reality where everything's a bit ridiculous, hence Australian soldiers (with highly over-exaggerated accents) fighting velociraptors, and Lara gunning down half the population of Italy.
Lara is in it for herself mostly, but that's what makes her fun. You can debate whether she's right to keep invaluable artifacts in her home instead of donating them to museums or scholarly research, I guess. She doesn't make money off of them, canon lore says she writes books of her adventures, so she's not a bounty hunter in that sense.
She says in the very first cutscene of the first game something like, "Sorry, I only play for sport", when Natla offers her loads of cash to go to Peru. It defines her whole character because she puts herself in these wild situations for fun, not money.
 

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