Torment Torment: Tides of Numenera Beta Thread [GAME RELEASED, GO TO NEW THREAD]

[Transfiguring Roar]

I think they said it was going to be a 'crisis', so prob a little test of the battle system.

 

[Stereotypical Villain]

I'm really grateful for the alpha key that Catawampus gave me. If the rest of the alpha is as good as the intro then... yeah, I'm going to take back everything I said about NuTorment (and buy it).

The future is bright.

 

[Fairfax]

yeap

tons

why you gotta be hating on the setting tho

I just can't ignore the medieval-tech-after-1-billion-years thing. I mean, one billion years in the future.

 

[prodigydancer]

I mean, one billion years in the future.

Get over it. Every futuristic setting is a projection of the past into the future, or even worse, an extrapolation of contemporary trends (torn out of their social, political, economic and scientific context). There's a limit to what can be imagined and even reaching for this limit is usually not practical. In a completely alien world you either have to explain everything (and not everyone wants to play a tedious lecture) or let the player stumble in the dark indefinitely and wonder where their place is in all that weirdness. The latter may be good for atmosphere but is also bad for gameplay. Even if you're making a classic adventure like Myst, bruteforcing unsolvable puzzles based on inhuman logic won't make people happy.

 

[Metal Hurlant]

I'd like to know what the toilets are going to be like in a billion years and will we be still using toilet paper.

 

[Stereotypical Villain]

Clams, man. It's all about the clams.

 

[Vault Dweller]

I'd like to know what the toilets are going to be like in a billion years and will we be still using toilet paper.

 

[ArchAngel]

Get over it. Every futuristic setting is a projection of the past into the future, or even worse, an extrapolation of contemporary trends (torn out of their social, political, economic and scientific context). There's a limit to what can be imagined and even reaching for this limit is usually not practical. In a completely alien world you either have to explain everything (and not everyone wants to play a tedious lecture) or let the player stumble in the dark indefinitely and wonder where their place is in all that weirdness. The latter may be good for atmosphere but is also bad for gameplay. Even if you're making a classic adventure like Myst, bruteforcing unsolvable puzzles based on inhuman logic won't make people happy.

I seem to remember lots of people wanting to play PoE

Spoiler

 

[epeli]

My goodness, getting about 10 FPS on an i7 4790k

Saame i7-4790k here. 20-30FPS at best.

 

[ArchAngel]

I hope WL2DC is better optimized than TToN :D
I was able to run WL2 on my i5 750.

 

[Brother None]

I hope WL2DC is better optimized than TToN :D

We kinda went over this during WL2 early releases: you can't really compare optimization for an in-development game to optimization of a released title. Optimization is naturally one of the last things you do in a game's production cycle, when all the assets, VFX etc are all in and final. What you're playing if you play the AST is essentially un-optimized and more importantly untested on different hardware/software setups, saying you have an i7 is not really meaningful there. As you've seen for WL2, this changes as development progresses.

 

[ArchAngel]

Yes, WL2 did have big differences between beta and release.

 

[DosBuster]

All In-Game Maps (Sorry devs)

Spoiler

Map,
TormentMenu = 0,
HUD,
AR_0001_Kholn_Village,
DebugMenu,
AR_0003_Kholn_Village_Cave01,
ar_c4121_ShrineOfTheGreatChilaInterior,
ar_c4111_VastInterior,
ar_c4131_IoxusShantyInterior,
ar_c4101_MemovirasCourtyard,
ar_c4211_ChiurgeonSlump,
ar_c4301_LittleNihliesh,
ar_c4201_TradePost,
ar_c4601_Ascension,
ar_c4501_MemovirasFortress,
ar_c4401_BloomsHeartExterior,
ar_c4421_BloomsHeartInterior,
ar_c4311_LostAnchorage,
AR_B9111_G1KholnVillage,
AR_X1131_Fathom13,
AR_B9114_G1DesertRoad,
AR_X1511_TheCalm,
ar_c4221_OldSlaveBlock,
blue_crisis,
ar_c4141_DuelingArena,
ar_c4321_CatenaInterior,
ar_c4222_MurdenTreasureTrove,
ar_c4511_MemovirasTower,
ar_c4142_DuelingArenaIoxu,
AR_D5231_JoliosPeak,
AR_D5232_Menagerie,
ar_c4413_ForgottenNiche,
ar_c4412_CorpuscularMawChamber,
ar_c4411_TheGullet,
AR_C4202_TradePostRestored,
ar_a1101_TheBrokenDome,
ar_a1201_ReefOfFallenWorlds,
ar_a2101_CircusMinor,
ar_a2201_CliffsEdge,
ar_a2211_TheFifthEye,
ar_a2301_Underbelly,
ar_a2311_DendraOhurCave,
ar_a2321_CaveOfLastWords,
ar_a2332_BuriedCrossroads,
ar_a2501_Caravanserai,
ar_a2601_GovernmentSquare,
AR_A3201_KholnVillage,
ar_a4611_CouncilTower,
AR_X1011_Fathom1,
ar_x1511_TheCalmBroken,
AR_D5101_JerboaTown,
AR_D5111_MorphlingGrotto,
AR_D5112_AbandonedHovel,
AR_D5121_TheMarina,
AR_D5201_SunkenMarket,
AR_D5211_OMJCenter,
AR_D5212_GiashChamber,
AR_D5221_OblevisReef,
AR_D5131_LostSea,
AR_D5301_MaralelsAsylum,
ar_x1512_TheCalmRestored,
ar_a2331_StichaLair

 

[Kilus]

I can't wait to play DebugMenu.

 

[DosBuster]

thats what the code says, unless you have proof otherwise?

 

[SniperHF]

AST B0 just downloaded here.

 

[SniperHF]

? What's B0?

The second alpha. It has some exploration elements and dialog with party members. Seems like there's a few more bugs than the last one though. Or it's just missing feedback on certain skill checks.

They also updated the A0 portion.

https://torment.inxile-entertainment.com/backer-information/ast-b0-release-notes

 

[SniperHF]

Well, give us a report?

Tried it again, quitting the game managed to fix my issue with the skill checks. You can break the HUD easily by opening the options menu.

It's very much like the first AST but you get a much better look at the environments. They are pretty lively, dancing mysterious objects, tubes with light passing through them, gravity defying droplets that fly upwards.

One of the things that was interesting is when you examine an object in the dialog window you usually get the option of doing so again. Sometimes this actually produces results, sometimes not. Though that obviously incentivizes the behavior of just mashing it twice every time. In one instance I hit "wait for more objects to surface" during an item puzzle and eventually another object surfaced. I'm sure someone more enterprising than I will sit there and mash it a couple hundred times looking for Easter eggs.

You first start off in a room with a bunch of machines. One of them taunts you. You can find a few items in there then head out into the larger map. There's the potential to use at least one of those items out there. Lots more object dialog puzzles then eventually you run into another party which ends the test.

Don't forget to initiate dialog once you leave the small room as their options open up. Your two party members Callistege and Aligern also comment on what the other says sometimes and how you interact with the object puzzles.

 

[Brother None]

Tried it again, quitting the game managed to fix my issue with the skill checks. You can break the HUD easily by opening the options menu.

Ah, yes, that is a known issue, at the bottom of our release notes you'll see some of the known issues in this alpha release.

It was a fun couple of weeks producing this AST. Will keep an eye out and see what y'all think!

 

[SniperHF]

Spoiler

 

[Fry]

Surprise alpha update released.

https://torment.inxile-entertainment.com/backer-information/ast-b0-release-notes

 

[TheEntitledOne]

Map, portraits and UI look great, but the character models are a bit crappy.

 

[Starwars]

That area looks nice, beautiful work there.

I'm not a fan of the portraits though, not entirely sure why.

 

[StaticSpine]

Looks really cool. Is there a Ghosting effect with Callistege?

She has several moving projections of herself floating around her constantly.

Отправлено с моего Philips W336 через Tapatalk

 

[SniperHF]

EDIT: This is now the corrected version with the effort pop ups working.