Torment Torment: Tides of Numenera Pre-Release Thread [ALPHA RELEASED, GO TO NEW THREAD]

[FeelTheRads]

OK, what other tricks could you have. Except for 2D which I think many people already expect (and I'm not really convinced you'll do it)? Decision on combat is out. Hmm. Screenshot mockup? Zeb Cook?

 

[Blaine]

And the Torment campaign until now has been nothing short of perfect, let' see what Fargo has ready for the final rush.

That's true—it's been totally flawless thus far. Not a single "Wait a minute..." moment to be had.

 

[FeelTheRads]

Oh yeah, also how about a miniature (like W2 had) as an add-on maybe? Can't afford that fucking statue, but a miniature I would totally buy for 20x its manufacturing price.

 

[CMcC]

Kevin might hate me for saying even this much, but I think what we have left in our bag of tricks includes both substantive and exciting things. I'm looking forward to this final week.

You all make Kevin sound like this lurking ogre, ready to club people who flap their gums

His style is more to send really polite emails. The politer he gets, the more you realize you really messed up :D

(Kevin's awesome)

And I don't just say that because he's known to review the forums on occasions.

Really, though, Kevin's just such a nice guy that when you get a polite email from him you go, "Oh, man. I disappointed Kevin. I hope I didn't ruin his strategy."

It's much harder to rebel constructively against Kevin, because then you just feel like a jerk. Plus, I'm pretty sure he's smarter than all of us.

 

[hiver]

Thats the distinction i also got from my short interaction with him.

 

[Kz3r0]

OK, what other tricks could you have. Except for 2D which I think many people already expect (and I'm not really convinced you'll do it)? Decision on combat is out. Hmm. Screenshot mockup? Zeb Cook?

I think that the whole 2D/3D issue should be avoided during the campaign, in fact I would be surprised if that would be a stretch goal, too much risk to upset people there, in a sense or the other.

What I think would be a good idea for the final rush is a new pitch video with MCA in it, the people pledging at the end of a campaign are a different pool from the ones at the beginning, in fact I think that the final week should be considered as a mini campaign of its own.
Really, I think that a new video with Colin and MCA together after the red boots segment will work mighty fine.

 

[Brother None]

Brian Fargo
Only a week remains in our Torment campaign. Look for an update and new beautiful piece of Andree Wallin art soon.

 

[Infinitron]

UPDATE: http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/inxile/torment-tides-of-numenera/posts/440456

 

[FeelTheRads]

Sweet fuck, 2D confirmed.

 

[Diablo169]

Holy shit 2d graphics and an underwater city? I want this game now. Also please pimp the facebook likes in the upcoming news post.

 

[Jaesun]

INCLINE of updates! <3

 

[Jasede]

I told you this would happen, I tolds y'all way back. It'd be dumb not to share tools, what with all the manly love going on between the two teams.

 

[hiver]

2D is not confirmed.

hold your panties.

So what exactly will a Torment environment look like in-game? For that, I’ll have to ask for your patience a little longer – stay tuned next week!
Kevin Saunders
Project Lead

 

[Cyberarmy]

WOOT!
Let the money flow!

 

[Diablo169]

2D is not confirmed.

hold your panties.

So what exactly will a Torment environment look like in-game? For that, I’ll have to ask for your patience a little longer – stay tuned next week!
Kevin Saunders
Project Lead

They just agreed to share development tools with Obsidian. It's literally the most demanded stretch goal there is. I would be gobsmacked if it isn't revealed next week.

 

[Crooked Bee]

So is the 2nd Major City a $4 million stretch goal? I don't see that info in the update, or maybe I'm just not looking carefully enough.

 

[Blaine]

We’ve been carefully evaluating the costs and trade-offs, and it looks like a 2D pre-rendered graphics approach may be possible. Being able to achieve this quality bar is only an option because of your great support – we are thrilled at the possibility that Torment could be as strong in its aesthetics as it will be in its storytelling and choices and consequences.

I feel strongly that there's no way they'd even hint at "maybe" unless they mean "almost certainly"—no doubt reliant on the final total, which I'm confident will pass $4m.

Updated my pledge*:

*Subject to reduction if it doesn't actually happen.

 

[hiver]

They just agreed to share development tools with Obsidian. It's literally the most demanded stretch goal there is. I would be gobsmacked if it isn't revealed next week.

Sure, but it isnt "confirmed" - yet.

Would you mind if it was a hybrid approach?
For example, that only the most important locations have 2D background art while the rest just uses 3D?



Blaine

You crazy man.

 

[hiver]

So is the 2nd Major City a $4 million stretch goal? I don't see that info in the update, or maybe I'm just not looking carefully enough.

There is no 4 million stretch goal yet, on the main page. I would guess it will go up soon.

 

[Brother None]

Blaine

So is the 2nd Major City a $4 million stretch goal? I don't see that info in the update, or maybe I'm just not looking carefully enough.

It is going to be a stretch goal but we're basically still evaluating the price-tag. We'll announce where it comes in when new SGs go up.

 

[Diablo169]

They just agreed to share development tools with Obsidian. It's literally the most demanded stretch goal there is. I would be gobsmacked if it isn't revealed next week.

Sure, but it isnt "confirmed" - yet.

Would you mind if it was a hybrid approach?
For example, that only the most important locations have 2D background art while the rest just uses 3D?



Blaine

You crazy man.

I trust the developers to do what they feel is best, but I know what i'd prefer which is some wonderful 2d background art like Torments, Icewind Dale's or the Baldurs Gate series. I don't think 3d on this budget would be able to accomplish that level of detail and wonder. I'm open to compromise though, since the whole team are fucking bros.

 

[DragoFireheart]

Just a question: they are still going to sell the game after they reach their goal, correct?

I want to wait and see how well W2 is done before kickstarting anymore games.

 

[pocahaunted]

Oh yes, 2D backgrounds being confirmed will definitely make me increase my pledge.

Thank fuck.

 

[Kirtai]

Brother None, I figured that 2D art causes early design lock-in of areas and art, similar to how voice acting locks in dialogue. Can you tell me if it's actually a big enough factor to make a difference? I'm thinking of that longer art pipeline here.

 

[Brother None]

Just a question: they are still going to sell the game after they reach their goal, correct?

I want to wait and see how well W2 is done before kickstarting anymore games.

Yip, there'll be a pre-order store just like Wasteland 2 has. It won't have some of the "backers-exclusive" goodies and some things might be in a slightly different form, but you'll still be able to get the game digital or physical.

Brother None, I figured that 2D art causes early design lock-in of areas and art, similar to how voice acting locks in dialogue. Can you tell me if it's actually a big enough factor to make a difference? I'm thinking of that longer art pipeline here.

It's not exactly that simple but "kind of, yeah". The longer art pipeline makes later changes hard to do and that influences the cost and flexibility of the art process.