Total War: PHARAOH

[InD_ImaginE]

I saw they even hired Cohhcarnage, the biggest shill on earth, to stream the game. Things must be looking very bad.

Not even Coch can save this DoA game.

 

[Hace El Oso]

Shogun 1 had tremendous style, though. And everything that it did do, it did well.

 

[Lacrymas]

Troy is neither confused nor simply ok. It's the best contemporary TW game since Rome 2.

I am yet to hear any meaningful reasoning of this.

• Actual faction diversity that matters and factions led by memorable characters
• Best battles since Shogun 2 due to a lot of factors (faction rosters, terrain, surprisingly in-depth rock/paper/scissors between infantry classes)

Spoiler

- Hector = lack of chargers/flankers, missiles under 180 range, has to melee grind
- Paris = must rely on missiles and protect them with under-average frontlines
- Dardania = lack of top elite units and missiles must compensate with more numbers
- Lycia = lack of melee chariots and missiles are under 180 range, medium units weak to missiles and heavy chariots
- Mycenae = lack of flankers and elite frontline/missiles, must rely on elite chargers and cheap skirmishers
- Sparta = rely on flanking, because other aspects are underperforming
- Phthia = rely on balance of numbers, flanking and protecting Myrmidons, weak missiles though
- Ithaca = rely on ambush, flanking, vanguard deploy, short-range javelin frontline, stalk. Decimated by heavy chariots
- Hippolyta = rely on chargers and chariots, underperforming on other aspects, squishy
- Penthesilea = rely solely on chargers, glass-cannon, skirmishing. Squishy
- Argos = rely on infantry flanking and countering units, lack of speed/stalk/charge
- Salamis = rely on Charge Defence, Slings, Chariots, and unspottable units. Really weak to flanking. Can counter any faction, but must be played well
- Aethiopia = fast light infantry, decimated by chariots, otherwise wins melee fights. Meh skirmishing
- Thrace = rely on Furious (frontal) Charge, weak to missiles

• 5 resources (8 if Sarpedon) that make the economy a bit more varied and settlements worth holding on to
• Balanced army compositions are a necessity because you'll get decimated by shield-carrying units if you rely too much on archers like in every TW game since Rome 2
• Religion mechanics that have opportunity costs attached to them (Aphrodite is a bit too good when playing on higher difficulties and weak on lower difficulties, but there's a mod for that)
• Strategic successes mean access to cool units that can complement your roster
• Story-driven campaign objectives that can be safely ignored if you want a classic sandbox campaign
• There isn't a single weak DLC, Mythos is the best DLC for any TW ever
• Logistics play a huge role, it's not uncommon to still have a lot of tier 1 units in the endgame if you haven't thought about how you'll transport your troops
• Administration is the best supply lines mechanic to feature in a TW game
• A variety of agents (including the 3 big monsters if you want them as agents), the majority of which are worth using

 

[Nutmeg]

Shogun 1 was a very simplistic proof of concept. Imo the series developed steadily up until Rome 2.

What is something in Rome and later that you miss in Medieval 1?

Shogun 1 had tremendous style, though. And everything that it did do, it did well.

Geishas were broken af, so it didn't do that very well.

 

[Nutmeg]

While Rome 1 was a fun game, especially at the time, and it had a vibrant modding community, it was, objectively speaking, a decline from Shogun 1 and Medieval 1.

I see you are wrong not only on matters of politics, but on general gaming too

And I see just like in matters of politics you are an emotional woman-brain.

 

[Lord_Potato]

While Rome 1 was a fun game, especially at the time, and it had a vibrant modding community, it was, objectively speaking, a decline from Shogun 1 and Medieval 1.

I see you are wrong not only on matters of politics, but on general gaming too

And I see just like in matters of politics you are an emotional woman-brain.

as a commie you shouldn't berate women. You fail at leninism, just as at everything else

 

[Gromoer]

What is something in Rome and later that you miss in Medieval 1?

Battles man!! Medieval 2 had awesome battles.

 

[BlackAdderBG]

What is something in Rome and later that you miss in Medieval 1?

Battles man!! Medieval 2 had awesome battles.

Sure the battle engine is better, but anything with the campaign gameplay is worse than in Mediaval 1, maybe except the diplomacy options(but not their actual function). To this day the AI can not handle the movement on the map and there are so many retarded campaign mechanics that were added because of it.

 

[Gromoer]

Troy is neither confused nor simply ok. It's the best contemporary TW game since Rome 2.

I am yet to hear any meaningful reasoning of this.

• Actual faction diversity that matters and factions led by memorable characters
• Best battles since Shogun 2 due to a lot of factors (faction rosters, terrain, surprisingly in-depth rock/paper/scissors between infantry classes)

Spoiler

- Hector = lack of chargers/flankers, missiles under 180 range, has to melee grind
- Paris = must rely on missiles and protect them with under-average frontlines
- Dardania = lack of top elite units and missiles must compensate with more numbers
- Lycia = lack of melee chariots and missiles are under 180 range, medium units weak to missiles and heavy chariots
- Mycenae = lack of flankers and elite frontline/missiles, must rely on elite chargers and cheap skirmishers
- Sparta = rely on flanking, because other aspects are underperforming
- Phthia = rely on balance of numbers, flanking and protecting Myrmidons, weak missiles though
- Ithaca = rely on ambush, flanking, vanguard deploy, short-range javelin frontline, stalk. Decimated by heavy chariots
- Hippolyta = rely on chargers and chariots, underperforming on other aspects, squishy
- Penthesilea = rely solely on chargers, glass-cannon, skirmishing. Squishy
- Argos = rely on infantry flanking and countering units, lack of speed/stalk/charge
- Salamis = rely on Charge Defence, Slings, Chariots, and unspottable units. Really weak to flanking. Can counter any faction, but must be played well
- Aethiopia = fast light infantry, decimated by chariots, otherwise wins melee fights. Meh skirmishing
- Thrace = rely on Furious (frontal) Charge, weak to missiles

• 5 resources (8 if Sarpedon) that make the economy a bit more varied and settlements worth holding on to
• Balanced army compositions are a necessity because you'll get decimated by shield-carrying units if you rely too much on archers like in every TW game since Rome 2
• Religion mechanics that have opportunity costs attached to them (Aphrodite is a bit too good when playing on higher difficulties and weak on lower difficulties, but there's a mod for that)
• Strategic successes mean access to cool units that can complement your roster
• Story-driven campaign objectives that can be safely ignored if you want a classic sandbox campaign
• There isn't a single weak DLC, Mythos is the best DLC for any TW ever
• Logistics play a huge role, it's not uncommon to still have a lot of tier 1 units in the endgame if you haven't thought about how you'll transport your troops
• Administration is the best supply lines mechanic to feature in a TW game
• A variety of agents (including the 3 big monsters if you want them as agents), the majority of which are worth using

The only impactful thing of all these is economy which is the good stuff and should be used in the future titles.

 

[Lacrymas]

2718 peak players, I was way off. I thought it would be 5k.

 

[AdamReith]

I'm so excited that the faggots at CA might be forced to make something good again.

I'm actually trying stuff like Atilla (big mistake) in excitement.

 

[Infinitron]

 

[Gromoer]

I’ll wait for kang edition

 

[Lacrymas]

5k peak players, just like I predicted it's going to be. Sad, but not surprising, obviously.

 

[AdamReith]

It's been very amusing following this whole saga and seeing a caustic reddit pariah finally vindicated.

 

[Lacrymas]

Volound is technically correct about most things, so there's no need for him to be vindicated. I don't like his videos much, though, because he tends to be petty.

 

[AdamReith]

He was vindicated in respect to the fact that his opinion has suddenly become the prevailing one.

Yes, he is a petty fucker and I love him for it.

 

[Space Satan]

HUGE SUCCESS

 

[fizzelopeguss]

Shogun 1 had tremendous style, though. And everything that it did do, it did well.

I loved shogun as a kid/early teen, but is any game as glorious and perfect as Medieval 1?

Talk about style and ambiance that can kickstart a young boys mind into a lifelong interest and passion.

 

[fizzelopeguss]

HUGE SUCCESS

£25-30 quid and I would have bought it.

 

[RobotSquirrel]

HUGE SUCCESS

https://steamdb.info/app/1937780/charts/

The full data makes it even worse lol

CA is dead. There is no way after they wasted $50-$70M on a shitty Hero Shooter Live Service game that they recover from this.
They have too much staff as is and the majority of them are useless ESG hires.

Remarkable how little interest people had in this title, I think they burned a lot of people with WH3 and people are just done with CA in general, good bout time people got the point that CA are a bunch of hacks.

CA's Turnaround is about what they spent of Hyena's development meaning that this year they were already trending a massive loss, this will only exacerbate that.
And you wonder why they're charging how they are, its because they can't afford to operate like this and are clawing what ever dollars they can grab to keep the lights on. Absolute morons.

 

[Gromoer]

Haven’t CA received some boost finances from the UK government? Can anybody remember how much they got?

 

[RobotSquirrel]

Haven’t CA received some boost finances from the UK government? Can anybody remember how much they got?

https://ukgamesfund.com/ukgfnews/new-vision-brings-5m-power-up/


it was 5million pounds or $10M USD. *Note it appears they didn't get the entire amount - we don't know the exact amount, but Enterprise usually gets 75-50% of these grants so lets say they got 5Million USD

 

[Lacrymas]

I'm sure this game will find its fans after all the DLCs are out and the ultimate edition is on sale for 30 Euro.

 

[thesecret1]

I still cannot wrap my head around WH3. Literally a golden goose, where you can release new content basically forever and people will buy it, and instead of capitalizing on that like anyone sane would, they decide to put it on life support while going to make some retarded shit nobody cares about.