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Turn-based combat mode in Deadfire

Abu Antar

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Enjoy the Revolution! Another revolution around the sun that is. Shadorwun: Hong Kong Divinity: Original Sin 2 Pillars of Eternity 2: Deadfire Pathfinder: Wrath I'm very into cock and ball torture I helped put crap in Monomyth
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So let me get this straight, the TB combat system was included in the game data and somebody is working on making a mod out of it?
 
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Safav Hamon

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The changes:

  • There's a new attribute called Initiative that replaces recovery speed
  • Every character acts once per round in order of highest initiative. There's no RNG.
  • Characters have one offensive action, one defensive action, and one movement action per turn
  • Stride now determines total movement points
  • Heavy armor lowers initiative and stride
  • Action speed is calculated by intervals and not seconds
 

jf8350143

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If this turns out to be real, I'll pre-order the next three games Obisidian made with season pass, whatever the games are. Even it's a multiplayer only online game where you have to play as Todd Howard playing Fallout 76.

Also Kingmaker is the game that really needs a turn based mod.
 
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Kem0sabe

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Obsidian only did this because consoels, hence the console release delay, to fully implement it. How does it feel to get a feature like turn based combat just because it means more sales on consoles? Codex is not a learning animal, especially when it comes to their fetish developers.
 

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I don't know why would anyone get excited about this. Deadfire was designed as a RTWP game, turning it into turn based will only result in terrible gameplay. Arcanum's combat suffered from allowing TB and real-time, and that game was designed that way from the very beginning. I can't even imagine the monstrosity which will result from this change.
 

Kem0sabe

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I don't know why would anyone get excited about this. Deadfire was designed as a RTWP game, turning it into turn based will only result in terrible gameplay. Arcanum's combat suffered from allowing TB and real-time, and that game was designed that way from the very beginning. I can't even imagine the monstrosity which will result from this change.
True, the number of encounters and enemies in deadfire is not conductive to a fun TB experience. Unless the rebalance every map/encounter.
 

Roguey

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I don't know why would anyone get excited about this. Deadfire was designed as a RTWP game, turning it into turn based will only result in terrible gameplay. Arcanum's combat suffered from allowing TB and real-time, and that game was designed that way from the very beginning. I can't even imagine the monstrosity which will result from this change.
Given that it doesn't have hordes and hordes of combat, I dunno, I think it can turn out all right.
 

2house2fly

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Obsidian only did this because consoels, hence the console release delay, to fully implement it. How does it feel to get a feature like turn based combat just because it means more sales on consoles? Codex is not a learning animal, especially when it comes to their fetish developers.
if it's good then why does it matter why they did it?
 

Seethe

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I don't know why would anyone get excited about this. Deadfire was designed as a RTWP game, turning it into turn based will only result in terrible gameplay. Arcanum's combat suffered from allowing TB and real-time, and that game was designed that way from the very beginning. I can't even imagine the monstrosity which will result from this change.

Real time sucks in PoE 2 with the clusterfuck that happens as soon as you unpause for 2 seconds.
 
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Safav Hamon

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Characters have one offensive action, one defensive action, and one movement action per turn

Small correction: The new turn-based combat system uses action points.

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A full diamond represents a standard action, half diamond secondary actions, and circles are free actions.
 
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Safav Hamon

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I'm guessing Dexterity will control AP, but I'm not sure it would mesh nicely with an Initiative attribute. Thoughts?
 
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Butter

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I'm guessing Dexterity will control AP, but I'm not sure it would mesh nicely with an Initiative attribute. Thoughts?
Dex influencing AP is fine. Initiative should just be a dice roll or determined by the encounter (e.g. if you get ambushed, all the enemies get to move first).
 
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Safav Hamon

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Deterministic initiative systems are better than RNG, especially in Deadfire's case.

It allows you to formulate strategies around initiative, instead of leaving it up to chance.
 
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aweigh

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Considering everyone plays PoE games by mashing spacebar every 0.1 seconds, I think going turn-based will make fighting hordes of mobs faster if anything.
 

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