The Witcher Twitcher 3 is awful

[Justicar]

 

[Ol' Willy]

"Let me play you a song called Rational Gaze"

 

[Ol' Willy]

Imagine how bad Twitcher 4 will be

 

[Gerrard]

11. A lone witcher is apparently better than a whole group of soldiers against a monster and acts smartass about it. Again, this makes no sense. While I get that a single soldier shouldn't be equal, 4 or 5 of them are still not a match for a monster, but a single witcher is?

Soldiers don't have superhuman strength, agility, endurance, reflexes and senses
They also can't use magic, they aren't immune to poison, they aren't fearless, they haven't trained since childhood to hunt, to fight and overall don't know jack shit about monsters

...in which Konjad admits to having never actually read the Witcher books.

 

[turkishronin]

11. A lone witcher is apparently better than a whole group of soldiers against a monster and acts smartass about it. Again, this makes no sense. While I get that a single soldier shouldn't be equal, 4 or 5 of them are still not a match for a monster, but a single witcher is?

Soldiers don't have superhuman strength, agility, endurance, reflexes and senses
They also can't use magic, they aren't immune to poison, they aren't fearless, they haven't trained since childhood to hunt, to fight and overall don't know jack shit about monsters

...in which Konjad admits to having never actually read the Witcher books.

But in books Geralt can only find jobs in godforsaken villages for tiny amount of shekels. It's implied that larger towns can take care of their own shit with normal soldiers.

 

[Falksi]

I just finished my first playthrough of Witcher 3 today and agree with almost everything that has been said. Some notes:
1. Playing as Ciri is jarring and not clever. Kudos to CDPR for giving up and giving her one hits kills towards the end.
2. Random videos of "Geralts thoughts" felt amateurish and out of place (was the volume on all of these videos low for anyone?).
3. I never used oil and only made one bomb for a training quest. Also I could never complete the Cat spell for darkvision. I wonder if this stuff is in the game to appease the spectrum crafter kids.
4. The last act is stretched out as fuck with boring escort missions and stupid sidequest after sidequest. "Geralt thanks for the hour long quest for me toothpaste but I forgot me brush. Can ye be a good lad and fetch me the brush from me brother in Albequerque?"
5. Combat is awful and investigations are poor. It's like they tried to ape the Arkham Asylum games but forgot what made combat in those games flow (combo counters?)
6. Witcher 3 is why I stopped playing Metal Gear Solid and most AAA. Interactive movies that appeal to the MCU crowd. Forgive them father....
7. The illusion of choice sucks. I remember loving Witcher 1 and having to choose sides and having it affect the story. I feel like as much flack as the combat for W1 got, I still liked it better than 3. I think I even liked part 2 better than 3. Weird.
8. I'm glad it's over. I doubt I'll ever touch the DLC.
9. BTW, did you know Geralt hates portals?

For what it's worth, the expansions are a SHIT-LOAD better. Just better paced with less filler, and some enemies which actually forced you to act a bit now.

Not amazing by any means, but worth playing.

 

[Semiurge]

 

[turkishronin]

Any mods to achieve this look?

 

[TheHeroOfTime]

I disagree. I also think you are one of these gaes from the news.

 

[Sykar]

Codexers: "The Witcher is just mainstream garbage!"

Also Codexers: "I know what I'm talking about because I've played 175 hours!"

The classic Codexian sentiment: "I spent 300 hours playing a game and it was terrible!"

What. The. Fuck. Why does it eat it if it doesn't like it?

People misunderstand, that is its happy face!

 

[ELEXmakesMeHard]

Imagine how bad Twitcher 4 will be

I'm curious to see how they'll worm their way out of the fact that only men can be Witchers.

• Will they do a reboot with their own tweaked rules?
• Will they stay "historically faithful" to it but introduce Trial of Grasses 2.0 which works on women?
• Will mutated Witchers have died off, and the new generation simply be trained as Witchers (like Ciri)?
• Will they simply ignore it?

 

[OSK]

I'm curious to see how they'll worm their way out of the fact that only men can be Witchers.

• Will they do a reboot with their own tweaked rules?
• Will they stay "historically faithful" to it but introduce Trial of Grasses 2.0 which works on women?
• Will mutated Witchers have died off, and the new generation simply be trained as Witchers (like Ciri)?
• Will they simply ignore it?

Trans-witchers.

 

[KIss My Ass]

Ya lost me. Ciri is already a witcher and she is a chick. No need for trans shit.

 

[Peachcurl]

Ya lost me. Ciri is already a witcher and she is a chick. No need for trans shit.

Ciri is not a Witcher. She got (part of) the training, but not the induced mutation.

 

[BosanskiSeljak]

Huge world full of nothing, lots of villages with untalkable NPCs and with nothing interesting to visit or do. What's the point of such huge areas and so many places if there's no reason to go there or just do the most generic quests you can imagine?

This really disappointed me. If the world was at least a bit more active, I wouldn't hate it as much as I do. Those map marker quests where you rid an area of monsters/bandits and let people move in is a golden ticket for world building. Have someone change their mind about Witchers. Have someone engage with you who's still apprehensive about trusting a mutant despite him helping. Have someone really ungrateful.

Instead, all I got was nameless NPCs walking around doing nothing all day who repeat the same 3 lines of dialogue. I'm pretty sure I wasn't even getting Gwent cards from the merchants you unlock there.

Even Witcher 1 had more variety in lines from the nameless NPCs.

The story is simply uninteresting. It's just too high-fantasy for me to care. Some wild hunt raiders appearing out of nowhere, great sorceress battle killing bagzillion of enemies etc

Never read the books and started with Witcher 1, so the wild hunt intrigued me. Had so many different theories as to what it could be and learning from the Hermit was so interesting.

However, all I get by the end is some cringe "super elves". So tired of those point eared fucks. Dragon Age: Inquisition did this when they essentially made the entire world about Elves, and how they're the mega race. When a game shares similarities with DA:I I'm bound to hate it.

I never understand why people say this is a story-fag game, or why story-fags say it for them. I guess I'm an atmosphere-fag or some other shit in that case because Witcher 3 (apart from HoS and a little of Bloody Baron) was so fucking bland for me and it was by far the worst story of the 3 games. They even made characters more one dimensional.

Apart from production value & scale, this game had nothing on the previous two. I will say though, even with the inconsisities you pointed out, it's still much more polished on that front compared to Witcher 1 where people like Zoltan and Dandelion will act like you've already met even if you skipped the quests involving them in previous chapters.

 

[Elttharion]

Imagine how bad Twitcher 4 will be

I'm curious to see how they'll worm their way out of the fact that only men can be Witchers.

• Will they do a reboot with their own tweaked rules?
• Will they stay "historically faithful" to it but introduce Trial of Grasses 2.0 which works on women?
• Will mutated Witchers have died off, and the new generation simply be trained as Witchers (like Ciri)?
• Will they simply ignore it?

They already introduced in their tabletop game a witcher school who tried to create female witchers and said the results were 'inconclusive'. The previous lore was that any attempt of mutating women led to certain death. This is their way of leaving the door open for their next game.

 

[Cat Headed Eagle]

11. A lone witcher is apparently better than a whole group of soldiers against a monster and acts smartass about it. Again, this makes no sense. While I get that a single soldier shouldn't be equal, 4 or 5 of them are still not a match for a monster, but a single witcher is?

Soldiers don't have superhuman strength, agility, endurance, reflexes and senses
They also can't use magic, they aren't immune to poison, they aren't fearless, they haven't trained since childhood to hunt, to fight and overall don't know jack shit about monsters

Siegfried can kill monsters as well as Geralt in-game

I think Siegfried is part of CDPR's fanfic, but his family certainly isn't. Siegfried is the man who could, and is 100% dedicated to his faith too. I think Carmen tries to flirt with him and is a bit disappointed the guy doesn't get her advances.

Ya lost me. Ciri is already a witcher and she is a chick. No need for trans shit.

Ciri is not a Witcher. She got (part of) the training, but not the induced mutation.

The point of Ciri is that she lost everything and fucked up everything she tried to do.
Tried to have a family, couldn't stay with any of them.
Tried to be a witcher, couldn't be a witcher.
Tried to use magic, couldn't properly use it.
Tried to help people, ended up importing the Black Death from our world to hers. Yes, the plague from the games is the result of Ciri's planehopping.
Being Ciri is absolutely fucking miserable.

 

[NecroLord]

The point of Ciri is that she lost everything and fucked up everything she tried to do.
Tried to have a family, couldn't stay with any of them.
Tried to be a witcher, couldn't be a witcher.
Tried to use magic, couldn't properly use it.
Tried to help people, ended up importing the Black Death from our world to hers. Yes, the plague from the games is the result of Ciri's planehopping.
Being Ciri is absolutely fucking miserable.

Woman fucks up everything?
Color me shocked.

 

[Tyrr]

Imagine how bad Twitcher 4 will be

I'm curious to see how they'll worm their way out of the fact that only men can be Witchers.

• Will they do a reboot with their own tweaked rules?
• Will they stay "historically faithful" to it but introduce Trial of Grasses 2.0 which works on women?
• Will mutated Witchers have died off, and the new generation simply be trained as Witchers (like Ciri)?
• Will they simply ignore it?

They already introduced in their tabletop game a witcher school who tried to create female witchers and said the results were 'inconclusive'. The previous lore was that any attempt of mutating women led to certain death. This is their way of leaving the door open for their next game.

There will be no female witcher in their next game. Just body-type 1&2 witchers.

 

[razvedchiki]

11. A lone witcher is apparently better than a whole group of soldiers against a monster and acts smartass about it. Again, this makes no sense. While I get that a single soldier shouldn't be equal, 4 or 5 of them are still not a match for a monster, but a single witcher is?

Soldiers don't have superhuman strength, agility, endurance, reflexes and senses
They also can't use magic, they aren't immune to poison, they aren't fearless, they haven't trained since childhood to hunt, to fight and overall don't know jack shit about monsters

my take is that a group of soldiers may take on a monster but why risk your life/waste your troops if you can hire a specialist? in the books its implied that even peasants in numbers can take them on ( at least in the past of that world the peasants are reported to go even in the fields armed and armored). the witchers represent someting akin to special forces in our world, trained and equiped to deal with situations you cant/wont use your grunts.

 

[KörangarTheMighty]

The Witcher novels should have ended with The Last Wish and Sword of Destiny and the game series should have ended after the first, or else continued as an anthology of self-contained stories. That was the strength of the first game, it was a love letter to the first few novels while still being free from most of the baggage. A few posts ago, what BosanskiSeljak said about Sapkowski turning the Wild Hunt into Space-Elves was bang on the money, and thankfully the meta-narrative of the first game allows you to pretty much ignore that entirely and treat it as a mysterious entity linked to destiny (or at least pretending to be) in some ambiguous way, as it should be.

For my part, in both cases as soon as the focus shifted from low-stakes adventures with Geralt to epic mary-sue Ciri, I gradually lost interest. Shame too, because the mainline series of novels had much that was good about them, but by the end of Time of Contempt, I could feel what way the wind was blowing for the rest. As it is, I recommend treating The Witcher of The Last Wish and Sword of Destiny as its own separate thing. Even better that it ends with Geralt finding that elusive "Something More" he was searching for.

Spoiler

 

[bloodlover]

Comparing TW3 with G2 isn't really fair though. TW3 is built upon the first two games and it assumes that you already know and care about the characters and lore. The first two Witcher games also somewhat assumed that you read the books since some things weren't completely explained either so these games should be taken as a package imo and as a trio they do offer a good experience.

I do agree that the story is a bit high fantasy but it sort of has to be when you have an established badass protagonist. You'd be a terrible monster hunter if a few kobolds would pose problems for you.

 

[BosanskiSeljak]

TW3 is built upon the first two games and it assumes that you already know and care about the characters and lore. The first two Witcher games also somewhat assumed that you read the books since some things weren't completely explained either so these games should be taken as a package imo and as a trio they do offer a good experience.

I never read the books but Witcher 1 (and Witcher 2 id im remembering things correctly) never made me feel like i was missing out on context. Witcher 3 had it happening all the time.

What I did is definitely the worst route though. Knowing nothing about the books or anything that happens in the games, start with Witcher 1, then get whiplash by Yennefer and Ciri showing up and suddenly being the most important things in Geralt's life.

Fuck me that was jarring.

 

[NecroLord]

I never read the books but Witcher 1 (and Witcher 2 id im remembering things correctly)

Maybe it's because Sapkowski is a polack plagiarist fuck?
C'mon, let's tell it as it is. Witcher does not exactly ooze originality and authenticity.

 

[Maxie]

I never read the books but Witcher 1 (and Witcher 2 id im remembering things correctly)

Maybe it's because Sapkowski is a polack plagiarist fuck?
C'mon, let's tell it as it is. Witcher does not exactly ooze originality and authenticity.

why utter words for which you will have to apologize later