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The Witcher Twitcher 3 is awful

Barbarian

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Also, this was perhaps the last major western game not having faggots, troons and general cuckery/sodomy. Also no diversity aside from some token arabs.

Enjoy it because years from now it will be considered a gem and we won't get more of it. Except maybe japanese games(i.e: Elden Ring)
 
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Also, this was perhaps the last major western game not having faggots, troons and general cuckery/sodomy. Also no diversity aside from some token arabs.

Enjoy it because years from now it will be considered a gem and we won't get more of it. Except maybe japanese games(i.e: Elden Ring)
A gay romance is part of a quest, there's a crossdressing elf, and the arabs were already part of the source material.
 

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I feel like they have always wanted to center the plot around that, they just suck at it. Witcher 1 basically has Alvin as Ciri prototype and a good part of Witcher 2 is the build-up for Wild Hunt.
Then they are probably the worst story tellers under the sun because they somehow managed to setup the exact opposite of what they set out to do. Alvin is if anything a refutation of Ciri and her importance to the world. He was done in a way to underline that Ciri is not the literal only carrier of the elder blood. Meaning that the whole concept does not hinge entirely on her being or not being available. The fact that she is essentially never mentioned in Witcher 1 whether in relation to Alvin or alone only proves this further. And Witcher 2 only continues that trend.

If anything W1 and W2 were actively trying to distance themselves from Ciri because they obviously realized that the Witcher world does not mesh well with the "high fantasy chosen one" trope that Ciri clearly represents. The only thing they were vaguely building up to was a new confrontation with the Wild Hunt who quite ironically ended up playing the role of almost side characters in the third game.
 

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Also, this was perhaps the last major western game not having faggots, troons and general cuckery/sodomy. Also no diversity aside from some token arabs.

Enjoy it because years from now it will be considered a gem and we won't get more of it. Except maybe japanese games(i.e: Elden Ring)
A gay romance is part of a quest, there's a crossdressing elf, and the arabs were already part of the source material.
Dude the gay hunter stuff is like 2 lines of dialogue. And Elihal is some tongue in cheek stuff as harmless as crossdressing Bugs Bunny from 40s looney toones(the whole joke being that a piss drunk dandelion confused him for a woman).

Can't really whine about that in this day and age. Compare with stuff like last of us, god of war and other mainstream shit coming out atm(we wuz vikingz, every 3rd character is a shutpusher or lesbo). Don't get me started on the rpgs themselves with pronouns selection at character creation and gay sex scenes.
 

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People here justify liking Witcher 3 by saying, "yeah the gameplay sucks but it has great writing" when it literally does not.

I actually found it pretty enjoyable as a fantasy GTA/RDR type game. But top #15 RPG is insane.
 

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Niggas, Imma replay Fallout 1 and 2, enough of this Witcher bullshit.
Those are legitimate cRPGs, by the way.
Virgin Geralt vs Chad Vault Dweller(who succeeds by sheer force of will and courage, not any magic bullshit).
the amazing reactivity of fallout 1 where you cant even tell good guy heroman killian his doctor is a psycho
cyberpunk has more
 

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People here justify liking Witcher 3 by saying, "yeah the gameplay sucks but it has great writing" when it literally does not.

I actually found it pretty enjoyable as a fantasy GTA/RDR type game. But top #15 RPG is insane.

It's a feeble attempt at justifying their love for mainstream CDPR shit while unironically hating mainstream Bethesda shit.

Witcher 3: #15
Skyrim: #111
 

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I somewhat enjoyed all of the witcher games but personally I would say the only parts I found truly great were the Hearts of Stone DLC and specially the 4th chapter of the first game. For some reason that little chapter was my favorite part of the franchise. This is probably an unpopular opinion but I found the short story books the best ones, much better than the latter books and that part of the first game perfectly captured the atmosphere and general feeling of the setting, imho of course.
 

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What exactly are the grievances towards NWN as an RPG vs. the Witcher games?
 

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Niggas, Imma replay Fallout 1 and 2, enough of this Witcher bullshit.
Those are legitimate cRPGs, by the way.
Virgin Geralt vs Chad Vault Dweller(who succeeds by sheer force of will and courage, not any magic bullshit).
the amazing reactivity of fallout 1 where you cant even tell good guy heroman killian his doctor is a psycho
cyberpunk has more
The amazing reactivity of......
*wait for it
CYBERPUNK !!!
Comparing Fallout to some polack Deus Ex wannabe. Imagine that.
 

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5. Side quests are mostly boring filler. There's a lot of side quests but they are all so bland I already forgot most I did.

This is my biggest gripe with the game. It has so many side quests that it feels like work to unearth the good ones. Quests like Carnal Sins and Towerful of Mice shouldn't be missed, but if I'm constantly doing stuff like Fencing Lessons then I can easily miss them. Looking up the top 10 side quests right now, I think there's 5 which I never did because the drudgery of the bad side quests made me skip many of them entirely.
 

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Codexers: "The Witcher is just mainstream garbage!"

Also Codexers: "I know what I'm talking about because I've played 175 hours!"
The classic Codexian sentiment: "I spent 300 hours playing a game and it was terrible!"


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What. The. Fuck. Why does it eat it if it doesn't like it?
maybe that's all they feed the poor bastard with
 

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Also, this was perhaps the last major western game not having faggots, troons and general cuckery/sodomy. Also no diversity aside from some token arabs.

Enjoy it because years from now it will be considered a gem and we won't get more of it. Except maybe japanese games(i.e: Elden Ring)
A gay romance is part of a quest, there's a crossdressing elf, and the arabs were already part of the source material.
Dude the gay hunter stuff is like 2 lines of dialogue. And Elihal is some tongue in cheek stuff as harmless as crossdressing Bugs Bunny from 40s looney toones(the whole joke being that a piss drunk dandelion confused him for a woman).

Can't really whine about that in this day and age. Compare with stuff like last of us, god of war and other mainstream shit coming out atm(we wuz vikingz, every 3rd character is a shutpusher or lesbo). Don't get me started on the rpgs themselves with pronouns selection at character creation and gay sex scenes.
Yeah but if someone tried to stick 2 inches of their dick up your ass, you wouldn't take it because "it's only 2 inches" and "you should see those trying to force a 10inch black dick up there now!". Gay's gay dude, and the Forest bummers quest sucks dick.
 

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Niggas, Imma replay Fallout 1 and 2, enough of this Witcher bullshit.
Those are legitimate cRPGs, by the way.
Virgin Geralt vs Chad Vault Dweller(who succeeds by sheer force of will and courage, not any magic bullshit).
the amazing reactivity of fallout 1 where you cant even tell good guy heroman killian his doctor is a psycho
cyberpunk has more
The amazing reactivity of......
*wait for it
CYBERPUNK !!!
Comparing Fallout to some polack Deus Ex wannabe. Imagine that.
Have you actually played CP2077?
 

Barbarian

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Also, this was perhaps the last major western game not having faggots, troons and general cuckery/sodomy. Also no diversity aside from some token arabs.

Enjoy it because years from now it will be considered a gem and we won't get more of it. Except maybe japanese games(i.e: Elden Ring)
A gay romance is part of a quest, there's a crossdressing elf, and the arabs were already part of the source material.
Dude the gay hunter stuff is like 2 lines of dialogue. And Elihal is some tongue in cheek stuff as harmless as crossdressing Bugs Bunny from 40s looney toones(the whole joke being that a piss drunk dandelion confused him for a woman).

Can't really whine about that in this day and age. Compare with stuff like last of us, god of war and other mainstream shit coming out atm(we wuz vikingz, every 3rd character is a shutpusher or lesbo). Don't get me started on the rpgs themselves with pronouns selection at character creation and gay sex scenes.
Yeah but if someone tried to stick 2 inches of their dick up your ass, you wouldn't take it because "it's only 2 inches" and "you should see those trying to force a 10inch black dick up there now!". Gay's gay dude, and the Forest bummers quest sucks dick.

If you are really going to rile up about a few minutes of content in a 200 hours game you might as well be honest and ditch most games worshipped here.

Not like Fallout 1 and 2 didn't have their token faggots and even a sidequest where the player character could become a gay pornstar right? And then you look at the fine Interplay folks: Sawyer an SJW, Cain a "bear" faggot and Avellone a soylent sipping simp assraped by feminazis.

Like I said, Twitcher might as well be the last major western game production not to have actual wokery. Next game in the series is probably going to have negro inserts, gay characters featured prominently in main plot and maybe even troons. The side character who mentions being a faggot if you ask him and the optional joke sidequest with the elf tailor who crossdresses don't get me riled up in comparison.
 

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Also, this was perhaps the last major western game not having faggots, troons and general cuckery/sodomy. Also no diversity aside from some token arabs.

Enjoy it because years from now it will be considered a gem and we won't get more of it. Except maybe japanese games(i.e: Elden Ring)
A gay romance is part of a quest, there's a crossdressing elf, and the arabs were already part of the source material.
Dude the gay hunter stuff is like 2 lines of dialogue. And Elihal is some tongue in cheek stuff as harmless as crossdressing Bugs Bunny from 40s looney toones(the whole joke being that a piss drunk dandelion confused him for a woman).

Can't really whine about that in this day and age. Compare with stuff like last of us, god of war and other mainstream shit coming out atm(we wuz vikingz, every 3rd character is a shutpusher or lesbo). Don't get me started on the rpgs themselves with pronouns selection at character creation and gay sex scenes.
Yeah but if someone tried to stick 2 inches of their dick up your ass, you wouldn't take it because "it's only 2 inches" and "you should see those trying to force a 10inch black dick up there now!". Gay's gay dude, and the Forest bummers quest sucks dick.

If you are really going to rile up about a few minutes of content in a 200 hours game you might as well be honest and ditch most games worshipped here.

Not like Fallout 1 and 2 didn't have their token faggots and even a sidequest where the player character could become a gay pornstar right? And then you look at the fine Interplay folks: Sawyer an SJW, Cain a "bear" faggot and Avellone a soylent sipping simp assraped by feminazis.

Like I said, Twitcher might as well be the last major western game production not to have actual wokery. Next game in the series is probably going to have negro inserts, gay characters featured prominently in main plot and maybe even troons. The side character who mentions being a faggot if you ask him and the optional joke sidequest with the elf tailor who crossdresses don't get me riled up in comparison.
Nothing to get riled about, I'm just saying ignoring it is the other extreme.
 

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I vaguely recall Fallout 2 having some gay, but Fallout 1?
 

Barbarian

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Not like Fallout 1 and 2 didn't have their token faggots and even a sidequest where the player character could become a gay pornstar right?
No such thing.
In New Reno, yeah, you can become a pr0n star. But no faggy stuff.

No faggotry at all! Just some "Glitterboys you can park your meat in". I also remember the whole pornstar thing had a very clear homossexuality subtext if you were male.

Anyway, joke elf crossdresser is pretty tame in comparison.

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Not like Fallout 1 and 2 didn't have their token faggots and even a sidequest where the player character could become a gay pornstar right?
No such thing.
In New Reno, yeah, you can become a pr0n star. But no faggy stuff.

No faggotry at all! Just some "Glitterboys you can park your meat in". I also remember the whole pornstar thing had a very clear homossexuality subtext if you were male.

Anyway, joke elf crossdresser is pretty tame in comparison.

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That's just one line, bruh.
Bishop is simply suggesting that working for him as his Made Man is extremely advantageous for your character and does his best to entice him into accepting the offer, but also tries to make it clear that he doesn't take refusal too kindly...
By the way, I think Bishop is one of the few(the other one is Wright) mob bosses that doesn't attack you if you refuse to join their crime families.
 

Barbarian

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Not like Fallout 1 and 2 didn't have their token faggots and even a sidequest where the player character could become a gay pornstar right?
No such thing.
In New Reno, yeah, you can become a pr0n star. But no faggy stuff.

No faggotry at all! Just some "Glitterboys you can park your meat in". I also remember the whole pornstar thing had a very clear homossexuality subtext if you were male.

Anyway, joke elf crossdresser is pretty tame in comparison.

AkGcZzrO8IuwJOqr7b0ZssjslJj-SYcipUDWYTHEKjw.png
That's just one line, bruh.
Bishop is simply suggesting that working for him as his Made Man is extremely advantageous for your character and does his best to entice him into accepting the offer, but also tries to make it clear that he doesn't take refusal too kindly...
By the way, I think Bishop is one of the few(the other one is Wright) mob bosses that doesn't attack you if you refuse to join their crime families.
But that is my point. Gay hunter in twitcher 3 is also just a line, where he mentions he was kicked out of the village because he was found together with the lord's son. And not pornographic/explicit like this one.

Also, in games set in gritty/realistic settings I don't mind homossexuality being mentioned. It is not like it doesn't exist. Just as I don't mind prostitution being mentioned, or a host of every other sexual immoralities. What I dislike is it being normalized or celebrated like it is done in modern woke games.

In Road Warrior for instance the homos were the villains and they all died in the end. Which is about right. Wouldn't dismiss the movie because it had faggots. In Braveheart one of the villains was a faggot too, and it is one of the best movies ever made.
 

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Yup. Not only is The Witcher 3 a pretty lame game which is overrated to fuck, but I'd say the gap between it's actual quality and perceived quality is not only the biggest since Skyrim and Mass Effect 2, but possibly the biggest of all time too. As well as the issues which you list (number 4 being my pet hate), I'd also list:
  1. Poor combat, which also has virtually 0 need for potions and/or oils.
  2. Dialogue trees which are usually just a case of "tell me more bollocks" as opposed to taking the conversation or quest in any meaningful direction.
  3. Witcher senses - press awesome button to win. Fuck off, even Assassins' Creed: Origins does detective work better.
  4. Main villains who CDPR name the game after and use as the main plot drive, but who are then absent for a huge portion of the game between the start and the finale, and who's return feels tagged on.
  5. To extend 4, a very contradictory game setup - "Quick! The Wild Hunt are after Ciri! You must hurry and find her before they get her!....but of course, feel free to nob about for large chunks of time doing silly errands, she can wait.
  6. So many repetitive Hunts that being a Witcher does indeed actually start to feel like a day job.
It's a fucking right turd. They do rectify a lot of the issues in the expansions, but the main game is an utter chore.
1. I agree. Also, I didn't even feel the need to craft ''superior'' versions of various armour styles.
2. Action adventure typical dialogue.
4. And when you get to fight them, they're pathetically weak, save perhaps for Detlaff.
7. It's not even an RPG, it's an action adventure game with RPG elements.
 

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What exactly are the grievances towards NWN as an RPG vs. the Witcher games?

None. NwN shits on the Witcher as an RPG. You can create countless builds, the game is still being played and still being modded, hundreds of people play PWs. There has never been a better ruleset port on the PC. The Witcher doesn't even play as an RPG, it plays as a single player MMO with movie cutscenes. It's linear and boring.
 

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I'd also like to add that conversation options often leave the player guessing what Geralt will say.

For example, Bloody Baron goes on and on
How Anna hates him because when he went on an army campaign she cheated him, and once he found out he killed the dude

Geralt has 3 dialogue options:
1. You're both at fault (for this situation)
2. Only you are at fault
3. I don't care

Curious what more could be to the story, I don't choose option 3.

So the reasonable option seems option 2. I think Geralt will say something like "cheating is not a reason for murder" or some such.

Nope.

Geralt starts explaining that if you don't want your wife to cheat, just don't have a job (go to the army)! Stay at home and keep an eye on her all the time, what's the problem?!

I had brain aneurysm.
 

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Like why, what reason is there that you can't have the full lines on the screen like in Witcher 1? It's not like Geralt is the type of character to prattle on forever. What breaks the flow more than reading the full lines, is having to reload because he says something totally unexpected. Not everyone cares about that, but I do.
 

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I'd also like to add that conversation options often leave the player guessing what Geralt will say.
Reminds me of my reaction when I chose this option.
I expected him to push the guy, not cripple him for life.

 

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