Underrail: The Incline Awakens

[ItsChon]

You said you want a build that resembles a character. We proceed to try and help you do this, and than you proceed to make a character that's literally nothing like what you wanted. 'k.

 

[Goromorg]

larper nonsense

Just play a fucking psyker for fuck's sake!

 

[Parabalus]

larper nonsense

Just play a fucking psyker for fuck's sake!

If you go 8 CON why not take 9 for SI and Last stand? Rad with Psychosis builds.

The character builder is firewalled

As far as I know, I need

6 PER for Supressive Fire and Ambush
6 INT for Meditation and Premeditation
6 DEX for Parry
7 WILL for Meditation and Stoicism
9 CON for Stoicism and Survival Instinct

so what about

3 STRENGTH
6 DEXTERITY
3 AGILITY
9 CONSTITUTION
6 PERCEPTION
7 WILL
6 INTELLIGENCE

and drop Locus of Control?

You should max your main attribute out, otherwise you'll have a much tougher time. In the builds on the previous page max DEX with SMG let you burst a ton, with a split like this you'll have a much tougher time. Alsoo needs 7 STR for full auto.

 

[Jason Liang]

You said you want a build that resembles a character. We proceed to try and help you do this, and than you proceed to make a character that's literally nothing like what you wanted. 'k.

I really see STR as a dump stat for her. She uses guns because they are light and lethal. A 7 STR character with Decapitate and Full Auto doesn't feel right.

I don't see her as a dodger either. Her defense is to kill her enemies quickly and violently. So she is like a female Chigurh, seems like Ambush, Stoicism and Survival Instinct are good fits for that.

Also I read that Strength, Agility and Perception are good dump stats on the forum. Physically she's just an average human female, so she shouldn't be exceptional at any of those.

 

[Goromorg]

If you go 8 CON why not take 9 for SI and Last stand? Rad with Psychosis builds.

I've played with SI for a while, but imo it's absolutely not required if you have Expedition.
Limited temporal increment and Psionic mania cooldown reduction spec let you spam crits like there's no tomorrow.

 

[Jason Liang]

Does Premeditation not fit well with Ambush? If so, I could drop Meditation and Premeditation to dump INT as well to raise DEX to 9.

I'm pretty certain I want 6 PER for Ambush along with 9 CON/ 7 WILL for Stoicism, SI and Last Stand

So basically 9 DEX/ 3 INT or 6 DEX/ 6 INT

Can't I just take drugs or use equipment to boost my DEX?

 

[Blackmill]

Does Premeditation not fit well with Ambush? If so, I could drop Meditation and Premeditation to dump INT as well to raise DEX to 9.

I'm pretty certain I want 6 PER for Ambush along with 9 CON/ 7 WILL for Stoicism, SI and Last Stand

So basically 9 DEX/ 3 INT or 6 DEX/ 6 INT

Can't I just take drugs or use equipment to boost my DEX?

Dumping INT denies you access to Cheap Shots which is crucial for nearly any melee build. At the same time, 6 DEX isn't good enough for melee.

Why do you have high CON if you want your defense to be killing your enemies before they can kill you? Survival Instincts is good, but when your other attributes desperately need to be higher, it's a terrible tradeoff.

There's no equipment that boosts DEX. There's just two drugs that boosts DEX and both are very rare (especially if you refuse to craft). You can otherwise boost DEX by 1 with food but that won't change what feats you have access to.

If you want to be good with both knives and SMGs, start with 10 DEX, 8 PER, 7 AGI, and 5 INT. You have one attribute point left over. This isn't the only good choice of starting stats, but it's an example, and most will be pretty similar.

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Edit: Technically you can boost DEX by 2 with a certain food item, but it's random, and not very practical imo.

 

[Jason Liang]

Since I only want to do one run through the game, I guess I want to try dominating difficulty and I've read that both dodge and evasion are pretty terrible so I can't just dump CON completely. Is Stoicism worth it? I guess I can dump CON a little or WILL and put it into DEX.

So like 3 STR, 8 DEX, 7 CON, 6 PER, 3 AGI, 7 WILL, 6 INT with Stoicism
OR 3 STR, 10 DEX, 9 CON, 6 PER, 3 AGI, 3 WILL, 6 INT with Last Stand and SI

Does going from 8 DEX to 10 DEX make that big of a difference

This is why stat-based AP systems turn me off seriously

 

[Wunderbar]

good luck lol

 

[Jason Liang]

good luck lol

I beat AoD with a 1/1 build doing all the hard fights. Not afraid of Underrail

 

[Blackmill]

Since I only want to do one run through the game, I guess I want to try dominating difficulty and I've read that both dodge and evasion are pretty terrible so I can't just dump CON completely. Is Stoicism worth it? I guess I can dump CON a little or WILL and put it into DEX.

So like 3 STR, 8 DEX, 7 CON, 6 PER, 3 AGI, 7 WILL, 6 INT with Stoicism
OR 3 STR, 10 DEX, 9 CON, 6 PER, 3 AGI, 3 WILL, 6 INT with Last Stand and SI

Does going from 8 DEX to 10 DEX make that big of a difference

This is why stat-based AP systems turn me off seriously

CON is a pretty common dump stat. A lot of builds do what you want to and rely on killing the enemies before they can react. This is typically achieved by using stealth (so you want decent AGI) and silent weapons (primarily psi and melee). Stoicism is generally not worth it.

Going from 8 DEX to 10 matters. It's not just the additional AP reduction. It improves your accuracy with melee, your critical hit chance, and is a requirement for feats like Cut Throat. Since it also benefits your SMGs, it's hard to argue that putting those points elsewhere is better.

 

[Parabalus]

Since I only want to do one run through the game, I guess I want to try dominating difficulty and I've read that both dodge and evasion are pretty terrible so I can't just dump CON completely. Is Stoicism worth it? I guess I can dump CON a little or WILL and put it into DEX.

So like 3 STR, 8 DEX, 7 CON, 6 PER, 3 AGI, 7 WILL, 6 INT with Stoicism
OR 3 STR, 10 DEX, 9 CON, 6 PER, 3 AGI, 3 WILL, 6 INT with Last Stand and SI

Does going from 8 DEX to 10 DEX make that big of a difference

This is why stat-based AP systems turn me off seriously

If you're going to be playing DOMINATING not maxing your main attribute will be even more punishing since enemies have higher amounts of dodge/evasion.

Go either 9 CON or 3 CON, 7 sucks.

 

[Trash Player]

Since I only want to do one run through the game, I guess I want to try dominating difficulty and I've read that both dodge and evasion are pretty terrible so I can't just dump CON completely. Is Stoicism worth it? I guess I can dump CON a little or WILL and put it into DEX.

So like 3 STR, 8 DEX, 7 CON, 6 PER, 3 AGI, 7 WILL, 6 INT with Stoicism
OR 3 STR, 10 DEX, 9 CON, 6 PER, 3 AGI, 3 WILL, 6 INT with Last Stand and SI

Does going from 8 DEX to 10 DEX make that big of a difference

This is why stat-based AP systems turn me off seriously

Stealth gives initiative and Psi gives ridiculous amount of CC, you will never get hit by anything. Some situations will rob you of either but those are mitigable. Grenades and mines are hassles but good enough by themselves. An optimised build can output outrageous damage numbers too. Hard and aboves gives a health penalty but tanking is more about stacking resistance, so getting Str 8 for armor options alone will do more than just high Con + some durability feats.
As for someone who can shoot and stab well, Versatility(Int 5) is a good feat. Save a lot of points, take some time to get online though. Spec Ops(Agi 6) is the only mandatory SMG feat, evn then SMG is good enough without it. Agi 7 gives Run and Gun, kinda overkill though. Will 7 gives Force User, which is a gamebreaker.
A 3/10/6/3/3/7/6 array gives you 2 points leftover, either pump Will for late psi feats or drop for Per to get gun ones.

I beat AoD with a 1/1 build doing all the hard fights. Not afraid of Underrail

Well, unless you put on any extra self-imposed challenges, the game is just a exercise on trial-and-error and preparations, even on dominating. The difficulty itself contains a massive stat bloat, tuned-up encounters and some insignificant rule changes. Most of the clutches are still applicable, i.e. bear traps, forcefield, special grenades. The good stuffs are still broken, like psi, stealth and burst weapons. It is more about tedium than a real challenge.
The time to figure out the metagame on dom for a new player will probably be as much as do a normal run. Ofc, this is your time and enjoyment, I am not going to comment more than that.

 

[toro]

The character builder is firewalled

Your mom is firewalled.

http://underrail.info.tm/build/

 

[toro]

larper nonsense

Just play a fucking psyker for fuck's sake!

Locus of Control should be removed from the game.

 

[Abu Antar]

larper nonsense

Just play a fucking psyker for fuck's sake!

Locus of Control should be removed from the game.

Lol, I have it and it's so overpowered.

 

[Parabalus]

You'd just pop Bullhead at every opportunity otherwise, getting stunned is usually a reload.

 

[luj1]

I always wanted to make a shotgun assassin based on the Bolivian guy from Scarface who whacks Tony from behind

 

[Jason Liang]

ok I uninstalled like 5 games to make room for Underrail. Hope this is worth it

 

[Sheepherder]

lol pistol damage spread
A crit from an aimed shot deals 270 damage and then another crit from rapid fire deals 855 damage. I've seen non crits from special attacks deal more damage than crits from regular attacks.

 

[Major_Blackhart]

With pistols that is definitely a risk you take. It's what makes a pistol build so awesomely difficult to play. I've done them before and I sooooo want to do them again but I have to try a pure psionic next.

 

[toro]

With pistols that is definitely a risk you take. It's what makes a pistol build so awesomely difficult to play. I've done them before and I sooooo want to do them again but I have to try a pure psionic next.

I was mulling over an AR or Pistol build ... and your post made me decide to go for a pistol build.

Now I just need to activate my autism and find a satisfying build.

 

[TempleOfArcanumBloodlines]

i got 40 hours into underrail before being too weak as piss to continue through anywhere. maybe i should've done some build research

with the addition of the expansion can you get leveled up more mid-game to make it easier in the last third?

 

[Sheepherder]

With pistols that is definitely a risk you take. It's what makes a pistol build so awesomely difficult to play. I've done them before and I sooooo want to do them again but I have to try a pure psionic next.

I wouldn't say they're difficult to play. Tedious early game due to reliance on gear to compensate for the low damage rolls and rapid reloader (so next no chance to find a good pistol to buy before I can craft one) and unlike most other weapon types, there's no passive +damage feats. Past Depot A they've been fine so far.
Btw, Cryostasis enables Execute. I've been executing industrial bots.

 

[Alphons]

i got 40 hours into underrail before being too weak as piss to continue through anywhere. maybe i should've done some build research

with the addition of the expansion can you get leveled up more mid-game to make it easier in the last third?

It depends on what you're stuck on.
If you use stealth, you can use grenade distractions and electronic doors to bypass most enemies. If you find Expedition enemies too hard, you can roll with the pirates and fight Black Eels and Protectorate.