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Underrail: The Incline Awakens

ciox

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"Underrail is my bitch" Starter Kit

>post date August 2019 or later
>one build, maybe two if you're lucky
>55 points in Temporal Manipulation
>75 points in Thought Control
>"reloading the game is part of the player's toolkit"
>"just look at what this speedrunner can do!"
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Sykar

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Well point proven, Jason Liang claim that UR is "easy" can be dismissed since any game is easy if you can exploit the shit out of it including save-scumming, one of the most laughable arguments ever made when it comes to difficulty. All in all this retarded claim has proven to be nothing but hot air once you look at the fabled explanation of that "level 6 run" which was mostly "level 6 save scum through the game and exploit the shit out of it because otherwise I get assraped'.
Um, no. I played through Underrail normally on DOMINATING Oddity, did not even find Depot A that hard, immediately after the world opened up I could scrounge enough Oddities to vault to level 16 and everything was a joke with LoC except Lunatic Mall, the only part of the game I found where the combat was satisfying, which I did at lvl 12.

Using line of sight to stealth and learning how to restealth are I assume valid strategies that it seems like several people never bothered to learn in the first place.

Also it's not an exploit if the game showers you with abilities and gear to fuck your enemies over while they can't do the same to you, like Imprint and Tasers. It's just poorly balanced combat.

I was looking forward to Underrail assrape but instead all I got was fellatio:\

LoC cannot be chosen before level 14, well strictly speaking level 13 where you can reach 75 in TC but who would be so stupid and play an entire level one feat short just to get LoC at 13 if that is even theoretically possible since I never even tried to jump two levels. Lying dumbfuck detected.
 

ciox

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Nope, there's no way to save feats for later. You have to wait until you both meet all the requirements and are able to pick a feat.
 

Ol' Willy

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Darkest Dungeon you can't avoid getting hit or avoid getting crit'd.
Darkest Dungeon has no movement in combat at all - only four ranks for your party and same for the opponent. Because fights like "player party vs 69 skeletons" are not possible, limiting all to simple 4 vs 4, every enemy should pose more challenge. Combat in DD is simplified a lot compared to any CRPG.

And devs like nerf a lot, I remember solo Flagellant who now rests in eternal self healing.

But, at any rate, gimme savescum and I will rape this game like no big deal.
 

CHEMS

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Sooo... i restarted my TC run. Can't enjoy oddity mode. I already know where they all are anyway. Plus, killing Boards near SGS feels good for the tons of early xp.
 

Parabalus

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If you rift out of the Aegis camp before the 1st defense will they die? Or can you safely buy a jet and explore the non-Black Sea areas?
 

CHEMS

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If you rift out of the Aegis camp before the 1st defense will they die? Or can you safely buy a jet and explore the non-Black Sea areas?

If you do that you'll aggro them. It's not possible to explore the Black Sea before the defending the island quest without aggroing them.

If you steal a jet from Ray (i made a post showing how) and go to the Black Sea, the cinematic of the expedition starting without you will play and they will shoot on sight should you get near their camp.
 

Parabalus

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If you rift out of the Aegis camp before the 1st defense will they die? Or can you safely buy a jet and explore the non-Black Sea areas?
you need aegis boss permission to leave black sea. You cant get it before 1st defense.

Speaking of island defense, 1st proper wave starts quite early. I assume its done this way so that you wont rush for chip and activate defenses with high hacking & electronics. You might get permission to leave and get hit with distress call before you get a chance to sail out. While wave interval might be random, in my current playthrough it was extremally early. As result I rushed to exterminate few villager zones so that I wont be bothered with it again - was quite afraid that on dominating they might ping me to oblivion

Yeah, that's what I do too - which is annoying.

But the interval doesn't increment while you're outside the Black Sea, right? You can freely explore the waterways without it triggering.
 

Jason Liang

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LoC cannot be chosen before level 14, well strictly speaking level 13 where you can reach 75 in TC but who would be so stupid and play an entire level one feat short just to get LoC at 13 if that is even theoretically possible since I never even tried to jump two levels. Lying dumbfuck detected.
Can you read? I beat Lunatic Mall at lvl 12, without LoC. And you must have missed my screen shots last month.

Actually I did Lunatic Mall at lvl 8, not 12. lol
 
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Trashos

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Yaz, fair enough. I have always wanted to try a full defense build (not even sure if it is going to be any good- and no I still haven't designed it), and I will be replaying UR at some point.
 

CHEMS

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So i'm level 8 and i can already kill Mordre with bilocation. I'm getting pretty powerful.
 

Ol' Willy

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If you steal a jet from Ray (i made a post showing how) and go to the Black Sea, the cinematic of the expedition starting without you will play and they will shoot on sight should you get near their camp.
I checked, same shit happens when I ride to the Black Sea in Protectorate Cruiser. Aegis aggroes only if I get close and spotted. Visited beach, the invasion was on the way. Killed some natives - then cleared the entire Aegis camp, lol.
 

Yaz

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You get reduced chance to get crit. Check the secondary status window. It will display it there. A very strong effect, if you ask me.
 

Parabalus

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If you stop the kidnapping, can you still join pirates and do you miss out on something? IIRC Cruzer dies, but does he get replaced?
 

Sheepherder

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immediately after the world opened up I could scrounge enough Oddities to vault to level 16

I never understand, why would anyone ever do this? Is your day job not pointless and menial enough?
I do that too when playing oddity :oops:
Although it usually takes me to lvl 12-14. I mean, there are a whole lot non combat oddities available. And the oddities are right there, ripe for picking. Why wouldn't I partake in sweet sweet XP nectar?
 

Tigranes

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immediately after the world opened up I could scrounge enough Oddities to vault to level 16

I never understand, why would anyone ever do this? Is your day job not pointless and menial enough?
I do that too when playing oddity :oops:
Although it usually takes me to lvl 12-14. I mean, there are a whole lot non combat oddities available. And the oddities are right there, ripe for picking. Why wouldn't I partake in sweet sweet XP nectar?

Well, instead of just playing the game, you now have to spend a lot of time dodging combat and combat-related quests going back and forth picking up the precious Pavlov pellets. So you now have a degraded experience where the game has lost some of its pacing/cohesiveness and you've wasted time on the functional equivalent of correcting errors on Excel. And then your reward is that, well, you're playing on God Mode half the time and blowing enemies out of the water when half the reason to enjoy Underrail is the challenge.

I suppose it makes more sense if you somehow enjoy the vacuum process...?
 

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