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Discussion in 'General RPG Discussion' started by vortex, Feb 11, 2019.

  1. Tyranicon A Memory of Eternity Developer

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    Haven't played the game, but first thing on wikipedia for Void Bastards is "received mostly positive reviews from critics, who praised its comic-book art style, dark humor, and gameplay, but criticized its lackluster story and replay value." Not too confidence inspiring.

    Maybe I was being too harsh in my first post. I don't know the first thing about this woman, but senior writer on a RPG matters more than senior writer on Fortnite. Some credentials are in order.
     
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  2. Axioms Educated

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    There is a 100% chance that any game involving Cara Ellison as a, now the key, writer would be despised by the Codex. Not even in question. I don't particularly dislike her but if you read her RPS content there's no way you could think she and the Codex would get along.
     
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  4. Jenkem Kalinista Patron

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    I'm willing to give Paradox a chance. I'm keeping my pre-order. They need to show off something good though.
     
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  5. CyberModuled Savant

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    The problem is that role for D2 was a "consultant" one to my understanding so they must be really grasping for fucking straws if that's the case.
     
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  6. Dishonoredbr Savant

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    F :negative:
     
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  7. Tyranicon A Memory of Eternity Developer

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    Fair enough, although I have to say that the pedigree for the development here is... underwhelming at best. A studio best known for a multiplayer FPS with a lead writer that has a notable work history for being a journo and writing for a shooter.... is now attempting to revive a narrative-heavy cult RPG.

    Ehhhhhhhh....
     
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  8. jungl Learned

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    Is there anything more pathetic then late 20 and 30 something women that larp as gamers for industry cred? They had plenty of games where you play as girl in power in games like jet force gemini or evil genius. Fuck these cunts.
     
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  9. DalekFlay Arcane Patron

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    Has Mitsoda done anything particularly noteworthy other than being partly responsible for Bloodlines 1? Honest question, because while I love that game the fanboying over him personally is kind of odd to me. Everything else he's touched has been shit according to Wikipedia.
     
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  10. Ivan Arcane

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    Dead State is worth a playthrough
     
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  11. Jack █▓▒░ Patron

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    It had writing? Those poor Douglas Adams impressions in the sparse cutscenes?
     
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  12. CyberModuled Savant

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    I think it's less of fanboying over the guy itself and just more of the fact that the one and only connection this sequel had to the original is just gone now (plus given that Avellone's small writing stuff was already cut a month ago), it basically comes down to Cara Ellison's writing which well...

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    Also while it is true that his writing is still there, it's sort of a lose/lose. The guy hasn't really done much after BL1 as you just said and anything we do know he's done (Dead State) was lukewarm at best. On the other, if his writing is completely gone, it's all Ellison probably filling in the blanks like it's fucking MadLibs or something until whenever the game is out since we don't have a definite date other than 2021 (most likely, rewrites of some kind will happen if it goes past Q1 2021).
     
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  13. Zombra An iron rock in the river of blood and evil Patron

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    Disagree - while Dead State wasn't brilliant from beginning to end, much of the writing was memorable and good. Characters like Fiona, Grant, Troy, and Max had some fascinating conflicts. Sir Charleston was good fun too. No particular reason to believe Mitsoda's pen is out of ink.
     
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  14. Quillon Magister

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    "The storms come and go, the waves crash overhead, the big fish eat the little fish, and Sawyer keeps on paddling..."
     
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  15. Jackpot Literate

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    "No, we aren't getting rid of what Brian did and replacing it with Assassin's Creed writing. That's why we fired Brian and hired a guy who worked on Assassin's Creed for creative consulting."
     
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  16. Jenkem Kalinista Patron

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    Imagine if the sarcophagus in VTMB was actually an ancient Animus device that the Camarilla wanted because they serve the Templars.
     
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  17. InD_ImaginE Arcane Patron

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    I am not sure how firing the writer know for the original game can "bring the best Bloodlines experience to you"

    Honestly, this decision is so retarded on several levels. Writing quality aside, this is like a movie changing director at the last minute and those always ended up garbage as well.

    My hype for this game went from "eh game gonna be OK" to "it is definitely going to be shit."
     
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  18. Roguey Codex Staff Sawyerite

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    Years ago a bird told me that Brian quit Troika before Bloodlines had shipped because he could tell the company had no future. This would mean that Dead State and his wife's game are the only things he's seen to the end.
     
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  19. sser Arcane Cuck Developer

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    There is no story in Void Bastards, really. Just a bit of a setup to get you going. A fun game, though a bit repetitive. The writing would be in the quips which are in part also carried by the voice acting. Nothing bad, just nothing substantial.

    As for the firing, that's pretty strange. It's a corporate environment so it really could be a huge range of things. I think if it were a more personal affair then he wouldn't have spoken out at all, so it might just be something coming top-down. Maybe they're not happy with the pace, production, content, really who knows. It's unfortunate, though, and obviously not something you'd want to happen.
     
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  20. Thonius Prophet

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    LOL
     
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  21. Jack █▓▒░ Patron

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    I might not like the him very much, but when you put it like that it's hard not to feel sorry for him.

     
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  22. Semiurge Learned

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  23. 502 Educated

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    Just fucking kill me.
     
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  24. Sarkile Augur Patron

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    So, he was fired July 16. When was the delay announced, and when did Cluney leave?
     
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  25. Monkey Baron Learned

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    hmm
     
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