World of Darkness Vampire: The Masquerade – Bloodlines 2 from Hardsuit Labs

[Lambach]

if bloodlines had been released today, you'd have /pol/tards claiming at best that the game is good despite all the George Soros propaganda about how hierarchies are bad and the only good vampire faction are the communo friendly anarchs but that at least there are boobs

tl;dr /pol/tards are the new furries

Another reason why it feels like you're reading from a script is that I've seen this post ad verbatim in 2 different places already.

 

[Fedora Master]

This. SJW themes in this setting make no sense whatsover.

Psssst, the emo goth vampire fiction fans of the 1990s and 2000s were pretty much the same type of people who nowadays become social justice fans.

Vampire: The Masquerade and the whole story-centric RPG trend of the 1990s was essentially proto-SJW and its adherents can be found inhabiting the rpg.net forums to this day. It may have been different once, but it was never implicitly reactionary or conservative the same way traditional medieval fantasy roleplaying is.

The SJWs of today really arose out of gamergate. It's true that many from the 90s counterculture co-opted the SJW movement, but many others didn't. Billy Corgan for example is right wing now.

GG happened because of the sort of people who try to turn everything into a librul/commie power fantasy.

"I'm retarded and accept Fox News propaganda at face value"

You were insinuating that SJW arose out of GG. This is factually wrong and logically impossible. Without SJW types there would not have been a Gamergate and GG proved just how deep the liberal soyfag rabbit hole really ran. The only reason that shit remained contained within the gaming industry, largely, was because game journos are the most retarded of all commie foot sloggers and thus incapable of properly hiding their cronyism.

SJWs have nothing to do with communism though. These people are and always have been dedicated neoliberals who are only "left" in their hatred of privileged white males. Sure there are teenage communists on Twitter who parrot this shit, but I wouldn't consider them to be communists anymore than I'd consider autistic faggots such as yourself to be on par with Orban and Bolsonaro.

Is there a term for liberal taqiyya?

 

[Delterius]

>Person complains about how you won't shut up about trannies.
>Points out how much you don't like mentally ill trannies.

The game literally has selectable pronouns. That's like getting mad at someone for talking about RPGs on an RPG forum.

I also never stated anything about trannies. Only leftists that are obsessed with them.

> Person complains about how you won't shut up about trannies.

> Points out how much you hate mentally ill trannies.

> Person points out you're still talking about trannies.

> REES about pronouns while claiming to have never talked about trannies.

 

[JBro]

> Person complains about how you won't shut up about trannies.

> Points out how much you hate mentally ill trannies.

> Person points out you're still talking about trannies.

> REES about pronouns while claiming to have never talked about trannies.

>obsessively brings up trannies while I talk about how people hate the type of lefty who is obsessed with trannies in a thread about a game with tranny pronoun selection

 

[hivemind]

"2+2=5"
"uhm, no, actually it's 4"
"omg you fucking soros tranny shills keep reading from a script I head this answer verbatim like five times today, oy vey this is some conspiracy going on"

 

[Delterius]

if bloodlines had been released today, you'd have /pol/tards claiming at best that the game is good despite all the George Soros propaganda about how hierarchies are bad and the only good vampire faction are the communo friendly anarchs but that at least there are boobs

you would have a point if the camarilla ending wasn't the most sensible one. the ant people ending has you end up in eternal torpor at the bottom of the sea, the anarch ending is you being a good little pawn for the baron of downtown, and the independent ending is you getting blood hunted for all time by all the factions you just pissed off.

The simple fact is that the Anarchs are portrayed as the desirable but somewhat unstable ideal. Nines saves you twice out of principle, not politics. Isaac, the baron of Hollywood, is at the very least open to you about his demands and what he's doing -- he won't help you against the Sabbat of course, because all they are doing is siege down the Camarilla. And so on. They are clearly the closest you have to the 'good guys', whereas the Strauss option is the pragmatic one where you'll still remain a pawn.

And on top of that they are communists.

 

[JBro]

"2+2=5"
"uhm, no, actually it's 4"
"omg you fucking soros tranny shills keep reading your from a script I head this answer verbatim like five times today, oy vey this is some conspiracy going on"

"Putting my dumb failure of an ideology into a $60 toy about vampires is literally like 2+2=4"

 

[Delterius]

> Person complains about how you won't shut up about trannies.

> Points out how much you hate mentally ill trannies.

> Person points out you're still talking about trannies.

> REES about pronouns while claiming to have never talked about trannies.

>tries to help this poor soul to just let go of the metaphorical tranny dick

ftfy

 

[Lambach]

"2+2=5"
"uhm, no, actually it's 4"
"omg you fucking soros tranny shills keep reading from a script I head this answer verbatim like five times today, oy vey this is some conspiracy going on"

"You're so void of thought that your arguments seem copy-pasted from the same source"
"lolololo consipiritard"

Read a book, nigger.

 

[santino27]

yet its no coincidence that this thread went to shit when a bunch of alts who either joined recently or seem to be exclusive posters of the GG thread started reacting to the 2 retarded things that the developers have said so far out of a bunch of praiseworthy bullet points that would have caused this forum to blow its collective load with expectation back in the dark ages of 2009

Plenty of long-time posters took issue with those quotes and considering that said quotes were from the lead writers' mouths vs. the marketing boilerplate bullet points, it's not a huge shock people are giving them significant weight.

 

[WhiskeyWolf]

 

[Delterius]

yet its no coincidence that this thread went to shit when a bunch of alts who either joined recently or seem to be exclusive posters of the GG thread started reacting to the 2 retarded things that the developers have said so far out of a bunch of praiseworthy bullet points that would have caused this forum to blow its collective load with expectation back in the dark ages of 2009

Plenty of long-time posters took issue with those quotes and considering that said quotes were from the lead writers' mouths vs. the marketing boilerplate bullet points, it's not a huge shock people are giving them significant weight.

The Codex has a long standing tradition of taking in refugees. Used to be they came with TES or BioWare releases, nowadays we've been in the Eternal September for years now. Yes, like I said there are misgivings and hopes being voiced by a minority of posters. And also like I said, it is always in danger of being drowned out by fixture shitposters from GD and a deluge of newfags.

Also, no I am not quoting marketing boilerplates, but the other stuff that development leads are also talking about.

Deus Ex inspired map design,

Troika background reactivity,

No quest arrows,

Character Sheets,

and so on

 

[JBro]

GAMERGAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAATE

 

[hivemind]

Read a book, nigger

literally alt tabbing between one now tbh, god I fucking hate university work

The point is that this is not some complex topic. Bloodlines and especially vampire in general has ALWAYS been more on the lefty/SJW side of things and you getting told this over and over again is simply the result of it being TRUE.

Like, you complain about lack of thought but none of the people that gave me negative ratings here RESPONDED to any of my posts calling them out. ??? One person is having a breakdown over trannies for some reason, another just said he wishes I died, and Goral, the closest to what there was to an argument, just stopped talking.

How many different way should people go on about claiming a simple truth if there is no opposition to the initial proposition in the first place?

 

[Fedora Master]

You know, they could push all their liberal hippie shit in, say, a Werewolf or even a Mage game if they really wanted to.
But no, that's not what this is about.

 

[JBro]

Bloodlines and especially vampire in general has ALWAYS been more on the lefty/SJW side of things

Praise communism, let's chop our dicks off and jump off a cliff.

 

[Utgard-Loki]

Isaac, the baron of Hollywood, is at the very least open to you about his demands and what he's doing.

and what you are doing is invade the sanctum of a tschimisce elder. a death sentence even for a squad of vampires your age, yet a thing he himself would profit off of in the form of nosferatu inteland one less problem to worry about in terms of faction war, but all he offers is a taxi ride and "good luck, retard". the only anarch cast in a good light is nines, but only as long as you don't antagonise him in any shape or form.

 

[Delterius]

You know, they could push all their liberal hippie shit in, say, a Werewolf or even a Mage game if they really wanted to.
But no, that's not what this is about.

so which stage of grief is this

 

[user]

Damsel is a parody, you idiot.

That's the difference between lefties and righties right there. Lefties are able to laugh at themselves.

Maybe in the 90s.

Ok, I became a fan :O

 

[fantadomat]

I see nothing wrong with having political shit in the game as long as you have an option.

that, my friendo, is the whole point

if bloodlines had been released today, you'd have /pol/tards claiming at best that the game is good despite all the George Soros propaganda about how hierarchies are bad and the only good vampire faction are the communo friendly anarchs but that at least there are boobs

of the three times in the entirety of bloodlines where someone almost gives enough of a shit to ask you about your character (VV, Venus and Beckett), the game lets you shit on republicans just for the sake of it twice -- you can't tell me there'd be a tentative twitter brigade about that in the heyday of gamergate and how coastal liberal elites are trying to tell people how to think

could the desire to be political lead to shitty writing, yes of course and it very certainly will at least in part, which is why even Lacrymas' autism has its place. yet its no coincidence that this thread went to shit when a bunch of alts who either joined recently or seem to be exclusive posters of the GG thread started reacting to the 2 retarded things that the developers have said so far out of a bunch of praiseworthy bullet points that would have caused this forum to blow its collective load with expectation back in the dark ages of 2009

so far we have non linear hub exploration, deus ex inspiration, conservation of character sheet mechanics, multiple ways to solve quests through violence and dialogue skills, a reactive troika character background scheme, rick schaffer's return as the composer and so on

but instead of calling attention to these factors and trying to mine the previews for tidbits of info you've got almost exclusively bullshit about discord tranny mental issues by newfags and shitposters and incredibly long diatribes about how the slight inclusion of politics in anything ever leads to the death of entertainment

except for the 6 or 7 times it happened in Bloodlines, I guess

tl;dr /pol/tards are the new furries

Come on mate,i do agree with you,but you are pulling it out of context here. Bloodlines was a game of its time...like every game/book/movie really. The creativity of people is build on the world and setting they live in. That is why we won't get games like of old times,because those times have passed. If we get a Bloodlines...it will be Bloodlines that is coming out in a year. Having in mind the time we live in,it is not smart to just push political shit in games. In this times people are more pushed by the ideology and the sjw shit than the mechanics and the skill tree. If this games back then,nobody would have cared,but now this shit is fucking absolutely fucking everywhere and people are fed up with it. I just want to play a normal game about fucking bloodsucking parasites,not to listen some tranny faggot whining about mah struggle and all that shit. At this point i really don't care about hubs,skill trees and all that shit,every game have so it is not something new and amazing. I just want to sit down and enjoy a fucking game! Now you could look past all that political shit....well good for you,i am honestly happy for you,you could enjoy something that i can't. And do you honestly think that it will be "slight inclusion"?

 

[Delterius]

Isaac, the baron of Hollywood, is at the very least open to you about his demands and what he's doing.

and what you are doing is invade the sanctum of a tschimisce elder. a death sentence even for a squad of vampires your age, yet a thing he himself would profit off of in the form of nosferatu inteland one less problem to worry about in terms of faction war, but all he offers is a taxi ride and "good luck, retard". the only anarch cast in a good light is nines, but only as long as you don't antagonise him in any shape or form.

Not his problem. The Tzimisce is LaCroix's problem and you're LaCroix's dominate bitch. He says it to your face that the anarchs are only going to bother going in when it matters to them.

It is LaCroix who's dominating you to do his shit and it is the Anarchs being reasonable about everything, including saving your life.

If you're seriously trying to argue that the Anarchs aren't portrayed in a positive light in Bloodlines, you're crazy.

 

[Dexter]

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

Someone should take the plunge and play through it again, take some out of context Screenshots of all the gun vendors, strip clubs, prostitutes, stereotypes, cultural appropriations and other colorful characters (Tseng, Fat Larry etc.) and put together a collage proving that it was actually Alt-Right propaganda with Muh Sexism, Raycism, Muhsogny, Ableism and all the other good stuff. Maybe one could get them to disavow the game and turn against its original designers.

 

[Darth Roxor]

If you're seriously trying to argue that the Anarchs aren't portrayed in a positive light in Bloodlines, you're crazy.

damsel is by far the most obnoxious character in the game ergo they are not

 

[hivemind]

t. cuck

 

[JBro]

Someone should take the plunge and play through it again, take some Screenshots of all the gun vendors, strip clubs, prostitutes and other colorful characters (Tseng, Fat Larry etc.) and put together a collage proving that it was actually Alt-Right propaganda with Muh Sexism, Raycism, Ableism and all the other good stuff. Maybe one could get them to disavow the game and turn against its original designers.

Since the game is alt-right, people shouldn't bat an eyelash when the sequel is about setting up a white ethnostate. That's how things work now.