World of Darkness Vampire: The Masquerade – Bloodlines 2 from Hardsuit Labs

[Zer0wing]

Nos and Malk for paid DLC.

But there's only one clan DLC so only one of them. And not just one of these two, they'll probably try to implement something very different. Assamites for islam solidarity points is closest to match (they too have Obfuscate in V5).

Torrie because of course they will.

What's the difference between tori smoothtalker and ventrue smoothtalker? Gameplay wise is the lack of Domination in case of the former.

Gangrel to get the furry fanbase.

One dedicated Werewolf game is not enough?

 

[Reinhardt]

Setites. WE WUZ KANGZ!

 

[Nano]

What's the difference between tori smoothtalker and ventrue smoothtalker? Gameplay wise is the lack of Domination in case of the former.

A lot of players would prefer playing a pretty smoothtalker over a capitalist smoothtalker. Both clans have their audience.

 

[SpaceWizardz]

What's the difference between tori smoothtalker and ventrue smoothtalker?

Toreador more persuasive while Ventrue more manipulating?
Maybe Toreador players are seen as more attractive and people open up easier to compensate for no Dominate.

 

[Zer0wing]

Toreador more persuasive while Ventrue more manipulating?
Maybe Toreador players are seen as more attractive and people open up easier to compensate for no Dominate.

Too much writing hassle for Hardsuit lab presumably.

A lot of players would prefer playing a pretty smoothtalker over a capitalist smoothtalker. Both clans have their audience.

Spoiler

suggests only a capitalist smoothtalker tho.

 

[Herumor]

If they're going for the thief archetype, then it should be Ravnos.

Due to their inherent clan weakness, the Ravnos clan are all criminals; each Ravnos has a specific vice ranging from plagiarism to mass murder. When the opportunity to indulge that vice is present, Ravnos must succeed in a self-control check to avoid indulging it.

Should, but won't, because they're too mindful of walking on eggshells. So it'll probably translate into being stealthy, hence Nosferatu.

Nos and Malk for paid DLC.

Except they went on record saying that all and any clans they release in the future, post-launch, will be free DLC.

But since you slapped me with the fake news post rating, here's an official source on that claim:

https://www.pcgamer.com/vampire-the-masquerade-bloodlines-2-preview/

"The one thing we can say, we will have a good amount of clans in the main game that are really interesting, but we'll support it with more clans after launch," said Christian Schlütter, lead producer at Paradox. "And one thing that you need to write down is that every clan that we release later on will be free. We will never charge you for any clan." I wrote that down.

 

[Cael]

Torries should get extra outfits and all the dress up stuff for the League of Legends brigade.

 

[SpaceWizardz]

Too much writing hassle for Hardsuit lab presumably.

There is only 5 to start, i'll dare to expect a bit more complexity from the clans.
Brujah's Potence description says they can break down walls (only specific ones I'm guessing), though that could just be flavor text.

suggests only a capitalist smoothtalker tho.

The image below is what everyone believes suggested Toreador.
I don't know why, it's as unremarkable as the hallway one, I guess it fits them more than any of the other original seven.

Spoiler

 

[Vibalist]

It looks like the Chantry from Bloodlines 1. If it weren't for the other very obviously Tremere image, I'd assume this one was Tremere.

I'm hoping at least one of the revealed clans will fall outside of the standard 'Camarilla seven'. Like Lasombra maybe.

 

[Space Satan]

What I'd like to know is which kinked out psycho Embraced that???

 

[SpaceWizardz]

I'm hoping at least one of the revealed clans will fall outside of the standard 'Camarilla seven'. Like Lasombra maybe.

Playable Lasombra would be great but it would be a tidal wave of asspain for Hardsuit if both Nosferatu and Malkavian didn't make launch for some clan that wasn't even in the first game.

 

[ArchAngel]

If they're going for the thief archetype, then it should be Ravnos.

Due to their inherent clan weakness, the Ravnos clan are all criminals; each Ravnos has a specific vice ranging from plagiarism to mass murder. When the opportunity to indulge that vice is present, Ravnos must succeed in a self-control check to avoid indulging it.

Should, but won't, because they're too mindful of walking on eggshells. So it'll probably translate into being stealthy, hence Nosferatu.

Nos and Malk for paid DLC.

Except they went on record saying that all and any clans they release in the future, post-launch, will be free DLC.

But since you slapped me with the fake news post rating, here's an official source on that claim:

https://www.pcgamer.com/vampire-the-masquerade-bloodlines-2-preview/

"The one thing we can say, we will have a good amount of clans in the main game that are really interesting, but we'll support it with more clans after launch," said Christian Schlütter, lead producer at Paradox. "And one thing that you need to write down is that every clan that we release later on will be free. We will never charge you for any clan." I wrote that down.

Are they also free if there are also no post release Clan DLCs?

 

[Zer0wing]

There is only 5 to start, i'll dare to expect a bit more complexity from the clans.
Brujah's Potence description says they can break down walls (only specific ones I'm guessing), though that could just be flavor text.

But they've cut social discipline Presence from Brujah and made them warrior only class, so it's hard to believe Hardsuit Lab is aiming for clan complexity. Both dialogue and gameplay wise.

 

[Prime Junta]

There is only 5 to start, i'll dare to expect a bit more complexity from the clans.
Brujah's Potence description says they can break down walls (only specific ones I'm guessing), though that could just be flavor text.

But they've cut social discipline Presence from Brujah and made them warrior only class, so it's hard to believe Hardsuit Lab is aiming for clan complexity. Both dialogue and gameplay wise.

Presence was a combat discipline in B1 too (and a really good one at that).

 

[Zer0wing]

Presence was a combat discipline in B1 too (and a really good one at that).

I know, just pointing this out in a context of expecting "clan comlexity". BL1 despite all its rich design and flavour couldn't cover every single detail from original PnP game. It'd be a good chance to focus on different details in the sequel but we get what we see.

 

[Grunker]

There is only 5 to start, i'll dare to expect a bit more complexity from the clans.
Brujah's Potence description says they can break down walls (only specific ones I'm guessing), though that could just be flavor text.

But they've cut social discipline Presence from Brujah and made them warrior only class, so it's hard to believe Hardsuit Lab is aiming for clan complexity. Both dialogue and gameplay wise.

nope, there's no rose tinting going on with regards to og bloodlines and disciplines at all folks

 

[SpaceWizardz]

But they've cut social discipline Presence from Brujah and made them warrior only class, so it's hard to believe Hardsuit Lab is aiming for clan complexity. Both dialogue and gameplay wise.

I don't remember Presence affecting dialogue.
Complexity was the wrong word to use though. Devs likely slimmed down to 5 clans so that they could improve on the unique aspects of the clans they did choose, not so they had less work.

 

[Zer0wing]

nope, there's no rose tinting going on with regards to og bloodlines and disciplines at all folks

Funny that you've said this since social element of Presense is out of BL1's competence so it's a call-down on both Bloodlines games.

I don't remember Presence affecting dialogue.

It's wasn't implemented in Bloodlines.

 

[Grunker]

such a tragic loss of astonishing complexity

 

[SpaceWizardz]

Funny that you've said this since social element of Presense is out of BL1's competence.

Development of the first game was a notorious mess, I don't know why you think they just didn't bother with it.
It's irrelevant anyways, Troika != Hardsuit. Hardsuit will make mistakes that Troika didn't and Troika made mistakes that Hardsuit will avoid.

 

[conan_edw]

 

[Zer0wing]

Development of the first game was a notorious mess, I don't know why you think they just didn't bother with it.
It's irrelevant anyways, Troika != Hardsuit. Hardsuit will make mistakes that Troika didn't and Troika made mistakes that Hardsuit will avoid.

I didn't say they didn't bother, I said it was a good chance for Hardsuit Lab to add up to this 'complexity' thingy but they went a totally different direction:

Complexity was the wrong word to use though. Devs likely slimmed down to 5 clans so that they could improve on the unique aspects of the clans they did choose, not so they had less work.

Devs likely went on a road of hard specialization that is, hence I wrote class, not clan.

 

[SpaceWizardz]

I didn't say they didn't bother, I said it was a good chance for Hardsuit Lab but they went a totally different direction ... Devs likely went on a road of hard specialization that is, hence I wrote class, not clan

My bad, I misread.

 

[Wesp5]

LOL the footage of the Tremere exploding someone looks even worse than the earthquake shit from last week

I don't know what you mean. It looks much better that the Bloodlines 1 effect...

 

[Child of Malkav]

That's blood boil right? Because if it is, then yeah, looks pretty good or as good as it would look as envisioned by someone who thought how a human body might........well, explode. Meh. The least of my concerns.