World of Darkness Vampire: The Masquerade – Bloodlines 2 from Hardsuit Labs

[Lacrymas]

Never noticed any of these.

All of this is well-known, even the devs acknowledged these problems and promised* to fix them in the sequels. PoE2's loading times are even worse, so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

*haha

Good story? Yes. Good game? Questionable.

Like you said - the combat was a mess and the whole system wasn't implemented in an interesting way either, and that despite combat being (on the mechanical level) the sole activity of the player (not counting a few C&Cs put here and there).

I wouldn't call it a good game, the atmosphere and story are what keeps it together. The combat is barely tolerable enough to keep you going to see how the characters are going to chew the scenery next.

 

[Harthwain]

I wouldn't call it a good game, the atmosphere and story are what keeps it together. The combat is barely tolerable enough to keep you going to see how the characters are going to chew the scenery next.

Exactly.

 

[Puukko]

Elif makes me feel things in my pants.

 

[True Ukrainian]

In the book, Phillip K Dick doesn't say anything about Deckard being a Replicant. There are no hints either way, IIRC.

Ridley Scott is great at visuals but not too good at narrative. Deckard being a replicant ruins the whole point of the story, because it's about a human finding his humanity again thanks to not-humans. Anyway, Scott did say his intention was Deckard being a replicant but that you can take it however you want. The sequel doesn't say either way, and the director of that said it's up to the viewer.

Dick in an interview said that he always saw Deckard as human and wrote him that way.

Wasn't the screenplay written by William Burroughs or someone of that ilk? When I first read Dick's story (before watching Bladerunner, as I recall), I was surprised how different the book was from the movie.

The screenplay was written by someone different. Dick absolutely hated it and felt that the movie went against the message he was trying to convey in the novel.

 

[rusty_shackleford]

rpgcodex: where games suck if they have bad graphics

 

[Semiurge]

I think this is why devs like those haircuts. I can imagine every character with luxuriously long hair (like Elif) requiring special effort to get working properly.

More Bloodlines 2 hair:

Making flowing hair look realistic in games is so hard, yet what have we here

 

[Infinitron]

Making flowing hair look realistic in games is so hard, yet what have we here

A game that was exceedingly hard to make.

 

[fantadomat]

Making flowing hair look realistic in games is so hard, yet what have we here

A game that was exceedingly hard to make.

For a bunch of overpaid lazy kwanzian diversity hires....yeah it is hard work. Devs in Evropa do take their job as an actual work and not waste canal for their butthurt feelz. In reality there is no hard or easy work,there is just work,you got paid to do a job,if you don't like it you fuck off. Maybe if they spend more time working on the game and not virtue signalling to the lunatics on twatter,they too would have made a good game. Also it not something new or unique,fuck even the old bloodlines does have moving hair.

Fuck,even in this pic it is behind her back,place where they could cut corners and not animate it,yet here it is.

 

[Infinitron]

I think pony tails and similar hairstyles that don't brush up against the character's body are also easier to do.

Anyway Bloodlines 2 does have moving hair, we were just talking about that one lady in the trailer that doesn't look good.

 

[fantadomat]

I think pony tails and similar hairstyles that don't brush up against the character's body are also easier to do.

But not as easier than a wooden wig that doesn't change shape .
Also here is two more for your butthurt infi:

 

[Infinitron]

Yeah, and those don't look too great. Also see my edit.

 

[Paul_cz]

Each tail on Jeanette's head is a single physical object, not exactly hard to do and B2 devs could do it that way easily too.

Also, discussing a fucking hair physics in a thread about BLOODLINES 2 aka The Game I Never Expected To Get Actually Made is fucking asinine

 

[Storyfag]

Also, discussing a fucking hair physics in a thread about BLOODLINES 2 aka The Game I Never Expected To Get Actually Made is fucking asinine

Are you trying to imply there's a reason it shouldn't be held to the most exacting standards possible?

 

[toro]

I think pony tails and similar hairstyles that don't brush up against the character's body are also easier to do.

Anyway Bloodlines 2 does have moving hair, we were just talking about that one lady in the trailer that doesn't look good.

move the goal post!?

 

[user]

Yeah but those blood vfx are FAR worse in comparison imo, than hair not being animated or even facial expressions.

 

[Alexios]

Character hair is possibly the dumbest gripe to have about this game. Anything that looks better than Outer Worlds dyke hair should be seen as acceptable. Far more concerning should be that everything about this game suggests it's going to be a complete disaster, from the writing to the gameplay.

 

[rusty_shackleford]

rpgcodex: where games suck if they have bad graphics

Correction; Badly performed gfx

that post didn't belong in this thread, thank Infinitron

 

[Prime Junta]

HairWorks looks pretty good.

It's a shame though that five years after it's out you still need a beefy GPU to run it without killing the frame rate. Or that hardly anyone supports it. Hair is hard.

 

[Jenkem]

Making flowing hair look realistic in games is so hard, yet what have we here

an ad for nvidia hairworks

 

[ChildInTime]

I remember when this video was around to show how great the cloth and hair simulation will be in a World of Darkness MMO. Those were the days.

 

[toro]

I remember when this video was around to show how great the cloth and hair simulation will be in a World of Darkness MMO. Those were the days.

Video posted on Mar 15, 2010

 

[Cael]

There was a time when game developers dared to dream great dreams. Dreams of interactive worlds, gorgeous scenery and cutting edge technology.

Nowadays, we get memory bloat and game developers who wouldn't how to code and only fair in the tool package they were using. Oh, and fat trannies screaming about what a great person they are for writing stuff just for YOOOOOOUUUUUU!!!!!

The dreams of yesteryear are now nothing but bloated corpses in the grey, stinking marshlands of ineptitude.

 

[Doma]

There was a time when game developers dared to dream great dreams.

Problem is, thats all CCP is doing. Dreaming.

They made a smash-hit with EVE. But it came out in 2003. They have not managed to make anything else and ended up sitting on the WOD-IP for years. We got nothing out of that but dreamy techdemos.

Sure VTMB 2 might not set the world on fire, but at least we will probably be getting something.


Disclaimer: I love EVE and have been playing since 2007. My views of CCP might be tainted by that.

 

[Cael]

There was a time when game developers dared to dream great dreams.

Problem is, thats all CCP is doing. Dreaming.

They made a smash-hit with EVE. But it came out in 2003. They have not managed to make anything else and ended up sitting on the WOD-IP for years. We got nothing out of that but dreamy techdemos.

Sure VTMB 2 might not set the world on fire, but at least we will probably be getting something.


Disclaimer: I love EVE and have been playing since 2007. My views of CCP might be tainted by that.

It is not just CCP. Westwood, Origins, Microprose, Infocom, even Bioware when they did BG. They all had great ideas. All killed by ineptitude epitomised by EA and Microshite.

 

[Sailor Woedica]

All Hardsuit need to do is let you put snap clips in your hair and Bloodlines 2 will be the goat of style

And fyi in the latest world of darkness stream Outstar said at least part of the main story is fighting over the blood trade and who controls it in Seattle!