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World of Darkness Vampire: The Masquerade – Bloodlines 2 from Hardsuit Labs

Zer0wing

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There was dithering in the shadows, but that was a small bother when the game looked like this almost nine years ago:
It doesn't really look any better even with the best artists and lowest labor payment in the industry available for CD Projekt Red at that time, everything lacks in triangles despite rich geometry detail being the biggest shtick this game had, anisotropic filtering is nonexistent on your screenshots and overglow on the 2nd screenshot - holy shit, this OVERGLOW. Sorry but out of the box, UE4 still provides better, more precise lighting and character models aren't really any worse than 2011s game, sorry.
 

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There was dithering in the shadows, but that was a small bother when the game looked like this almost nine years ago:
It doesn't really look any better even with the best artists and lowest labor payment in the industry available for CD Projekt Red at that time, everything lacks in triangles despite rich geometry detail being the biggest shtick this game had, anisotropic filtering is nonexistent on your screenshots and overglow on the 2nd screenshot - holy shit, this OVERGLOW. Sorry but out of the box, UE4 still provides better, more precise lighting and character models aren't really any worse than 2011s game, sorry.

Unreal Engine 4 was still in development when Witcher 2 came out. Also, Epic already had "a bit" more experience with game engines by then.
 

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SA forum is discussing in their Bloodlines 2 thread how consent fits into the concept of embrace and "The Kiss", how players of Bloodlines 1 are surely freaked by keeping Heather as a pet and feeding off her, and one poster even un-ironically introduces him/herself as a Marxist, I kid you not. That place has become a completely different entity from what it was during the early years.
 

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That's some of the worst hair I've ever seen in a game. It looks like it's made of wax but oily at the same time. Maybe varnished wood that has been stapled to the head.
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Tbh you asked for it.
 

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That's some of the worst hair I've ever seen in a game. It looks like it's made of wax but oily at the same time. Maybe varnished wood that has been stapled to the head.

Still better than the butch cuts of The Outer Worlds.

I think this is why devs like those haircuts. I can imagine every character with luxuriously long hair (like Elif) requiring special effort to get working properly.

More Bloodlines 2 hair:

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Lacrymas

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I think this is why devs like those haircuts.
Yes, I suspect as much. I'm playing through Human Revolution right now and nobody has long hair. If it's long, it's in a bun. You can see how unnatural long hair looks in BL2.
 

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Fuck the old Vampire had better animations than this shit. Tho it is not really fair since the old one is one of the grand daddies of face animation quality standard.
 

fantadomat

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LoL lets be honest here,most of the game that came out in the last 20ish years have better face animations. Fuck even Knights of the Chalice has better faces. There is no need to come out and say how X game had a better faces. At least be original and say which game has worst faces than this one. I can't think of any...
 
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In the book, Phillip K Dick doesn't say anything about Deckard being a Replicant. There are no hints either way, IIRC.

Ridley Scott is great at visuals but not too good at narrative. Deckard being a replicant ruins the whole point of the story, because it's about a human finding his humanity again thanks to not-humans. Anyway, Scott did say his intention was Deckard being a replicant but that you can take it however you want. The sequel doesn't say either way, and the director of that said it's up to the viewer.

Dick in an interview said that he always saw Deckard as human and wrote him that way.
 

Zer0wing

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Unreal Engine 4 was still in development when Witcher 2 came out. Also, Epic already had "a bit" more experience with game engines by then.
Ah, so you're withdrawing your previous claim, finally. Case closed.
 

Ninjerk

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In the book, Phillip K Dick doesn't say anything about Deckard being a Replicant. There are no hints either way, IIRC.

Ridley Scott is great at visuals but not too good at narrative. Deckard being a replicant ruins the whole point of the story, because it's about a human finding his humanity again thanks to not-humans. Anyway, Scott did say his intention was Deckard being a replicant but that you can take it however you want. The sequel doesn't say either way, and the director of that said it's up to the viewer.

Dick in an interview said that he always saw Deckard as human and wrote him that way.
Wasn't the screenplay written by William Burroughs or someone of that ilk? When I first read Dick's story (before watching Bladerunner, as I recall), I was surprised how different the book was from the movie.
 

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Redemption also has a better story and atmosphere.
Yeah,it is a good game,tho the combat was a mess because of the AI just spamming retarded abilities and running out of blood.
Good story? Yes. Good game? Questionable.

Like you said - the combat was a mess and the whole system wasn't implemented in an interesting way either, and that despite combat being (on the mechanical level) the sole activity of the player (not counting a few C&Cs put here and there).
 

Nines_Anarch

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Game looks very polished compared to last year. Still no release date though.


The new trailer looks like the second part of this one:



Btw those models and facial animations remind me of Tony Hawk's Underground (a PS2 game from 2003)...

Just a comparison

VtM B2 - 2020? (Cross-gen)
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THU - 2003 (PS2)
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Not that I don't like it. That was a fun game. It gave me nostalgic vibes.

Bloodlines 2 could be a great game if the story + writing + music + atmosphere are good. Not an easy task.
I really don't care about the graphics but those facial animations could use some improvements.
 
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