World of Darkness Vampire: The Masquerade – Bloodlines 2 from Hardsuit Labs

[Vincente]

Can a martyr suffer through this and see if they say anything worthwile?

 

[Sailor Woedica]

Can a martyr suffer through this and see if they say anything worthwile?

I watched the bloodlines 2 part on twitch but can't remember anything except the blood trade thing I already mentioned but someone does a recap of the whole thing on reddit!

https://www.reddit.com/r/vtmb/comments/gg0ss5/weekly_world_of_darkness_news_show_recap_3/

 

[ChildInTime]

Since this thread is deader than methuselah in torpor, here - have a picture.

 

[agris]

It is not just CCP. Westwood, Origins, Microprose, Infocom, even Bioware when they did BG. They all had great ideas. All killed by ineptitude epitomised by EA and Microshite.

I would argue it was:

1. The improperly-managed professionalization that these studios underwent after achieving critical and some financial success
   
2. The poorly-managed increase in personnel that ultimately did not reflect the original talent that made these studios so successful, and could not have produced those old games even if they wanted to
   
3. The adoption of taylorist workflows to accommodate 1 and 2, which were also incapable of capturing the process(es) that lead to the "need" for 1.

 

[Storyfag]

Since this thread is deader than methuselah in torpor, here - have a picture.

Judging by the ratings you got, not many people found the dancing wolf thing

 

[Atlantico]

Making flowing hair look realistic in games is so hard, yet what have we here

What we have here is a barely functional but stupidily ineffective way to make hair flow, because Nvidia hairworks is patented shit.

Using tessellation to create hair effects

that's so stupid. Only Nvidia.

The open source TressFX works better on their own Geforce cards then their dumbass "tech".

Think about it. Their "hairworks" is such a poorly thought out API, that another API, not even specifically designed for Nvidia GPUs, runs better on Nvidia GPUs than "hairworks".

 

[Sodafish]

Also, discussing a fucking hair physics in a thread about BLOODLINES 2 aka The Game I Never Expected To Get Actually Made is fucking asinine

It's the new thing. Discussing tire textures is old hat.

 

[Semiurge]

Making flowing hair look realistic in games is so hard, yet what have we here

What we have here is a barely functional but stupidily ineffective way to make hair flow, because Nvidia hairworks is patented shit.

Using tessellation to create hair effects

that's so stupid. Only Nvidia.

The open source TressFX works better on their own Geforce cards then their dumbass "tech".

Think about it. Their "hairworks" is such a poorly thought out API, that another API, not even specifically designed for Nvidia GPUs, runs better on Nvidia GPUs than "hairworks".

Kinda like Nvidia's ray tracing at the moment. One might even suspect that they are deliberately making its hardware implementation in current generation cards shit so that they will have something to market newer cards with...

Still, flowing hair looks great in Witcher 3 even without Hairworks, that cutscene with Geralt and Vesemir after the tutorial is impressive.

 

[Ol' Willy]

I really don't care about the graphics but those facial animations could use some improvements.

Man, don't underestimate facial animations. VtMB demonstrates a fine example of how to properly animate human faces. And this example stands out even today, 16 years later. Like, how much of modern games feature lifeless wooden NPCs? Or imagine VtMB characters with that wax unmoving faces of modern games: instant nosedive in immersion. Or better, imagine Bethesda trying to do anything like Theresa/Jeanette confrontation and how awful it'll be. Sadly, it's seems that modern devs are more interested in hair physics and shiny particles than in creating believable NPCs.

 

[Wesp5]

Man, don't underestimate facial animations. VtMB demonstrates a fine example of how to properly animate human faces. And this example stands out even today, 16 years later.

I agree completely. Also Troika made a system so that the emotions could be triggered by simple commands during dialogues, no special cutscene animations or anything needed!

 

[Twiglard]

Also Troika made a system so that the emotions could be triggered by simple commands during dialogues, no special cutscene animations or anything needed!

It's a hit-or-miss feature really. It worked the same way in NWN2 but was awful.

 

[typical user]

So will there be any references to Vampire Masquarade: Redemption in this? Christof sword being the strongest melee weapon or a diary mentioning the death of the leader of Society of Leopold's. Would be cool AF in my book.

 

[Sailor Woedica]

There could be Bloodlines 2 stuff next week!

 

[Semiurge]

Good. I could use a good chuckle.

 

[Smoker]

So will there be any references to Vampire Masquarade: Redemption in this? Christof

Was that canon?

 

[Jason Liang]

Midway through LA by Night. Love Nelli G and Cynthia Marie, but Toreador are completely useless.

 

[Sailor Woedica]

If there was any Bloodlines 2 stuff this week it’s been delayed to show support for BLM!

 

[karoliner]

Can we just cancel black people instead?

 

[CappenVarra]

weak

if they really wanted to show support, they'd upload videos of vamps drinking black people's blood and proclaiming they find it as tasty as all other races

 

[Terenty]

If there was any Bloodlines 2 stuff this week it’s been delayed to show support for BLM!

I swear i've read the same exact retarded "more important voices to hear right now" from ten different companies already fucking pussies

 

[Roguey]

I swear i've read the same exact retarded "more important voices to hear right now" from ten different companies already fucking pussies

Leftwing activists work behind the scenes to give companies the same graphics/statement.

 

[guestposting]

I swear i've read the same exact retarded "more important voices to hear right now" from ten different companies already fucking pussies

Leftwing activists work behind the scenes to give companies the same graphics/statement.

Eh, it’s just a cut and paste job. All these companies are trying to keep their heads down, so there’s no percentage in publishing a unique message. Definitely PR language rather than left wing activist language (which would just say black lives matter rather than kinda sorta implying it).

I can’t think of many statements more anodyne than “there are more important voices to hear right now.” Classic PR talk that commits you to nothing. Conveys a tone of respect and deference without actually endorsing any particular message.

 

[Roguey]

Eh, it’s just a cut and paste job. All these companies are trying to keep their heads down, so there’s no percentage in publishing a unique message. Definitely PR language rather than left wing activist language (which would just say black lives matter rather than kinda sorta implying it).

I can’t think of many statements more anodyne than “there are more important voices to hear right now.” Classic PR talk that commits you to nothing. Conveys a tone of respect and deference without actually endorsing any particular message.

There is absolutely a group telling all these companies to post this particular message. Nothing happens by whims with these people.

 

[DeepOcean]

I think Paradox is so caring about black people as Disney that pretty much tried at all costs to hide John Boyega on chinese Star Wars posters and placed a mask over the face of the guy that made Black Panther also because of the chinese market. The same John Boyega they supported officially on the Twitter because he supported BLM, in the end, Twitter is for free anyway.

 

[Harthwain]

There is absolutely a group telling all these companies to post this particular message. Nothing happens by whims with these people.

I am with guessposting on this one - the PR talk is going to sound samey, because creativity isn't encouraged, especially when it concerns a topic that has potential to go hot if you decide to make yourself stand out with your message. And the reason they are all posting it is to avoid being singled out by the people involved in the protests for not paying it any attention. It's social marketing thing, not a conspiracy.