World of Darkness Vampire: The Masquerade – Bloodlines 2 from Hardsuit Labs

[Delterius]

It's a reasonable adaptation of Damsel's appearance to a more realistic, less stylized graphical style.

No, it isn't. There are middle-aged women who look younger than BL2 Damsel, never mind the fact that she's supposed to college-aged.

we can't all be 10/10s like ur mom

ha ha ha

She was made uglier.

She was never meant to be a sexpot, like Tourette or VV.

i raise you a venus

 

[Saerain]

It's a reasonable adaptation of Damsel's appearance to a more realistic, less stylized graphical style.

No, it isn't. There are middle-aged women who look younger than BL2 Damsel, never mind the fact that she's supposed to college-aged.

Well, college-aged and dead.

I'm not gonna say she looks good, but I might question whether she, specifically, should. Not even Toreador master race.

 

[Delterius]

It's a reasonable adaptation of Damsel's appearance to a more realistic, less stylized graphical style.

No, it isn't. There are middle-aged women who look younger than BL2 Damsel, never mind the fact that she's supposed to college-aged.

Well, college-aged and dead.

I'm not gonna say she looks good, but I might question whether she, specifically, should. Not even Toreador master race.

actually, giving 3d women nose shaped noses is how one kills western civilization

its nearly as bad as a crime as raping 3d women but we aren't feminists tbh

 

[Infinitron]

Developers themselves admited openly that they made their characters uglier on purpose.

That may be true, but not sure it's correct in this particular case, a game where people have reacted to certain female characters like this:

DAMN SON

Like, there are "hotties" in this game. They're selling a figurine of one of them in the Collector's Edition! Maybe they're hot in a more realistic way, but it's not a drab ugly people game.

 

[Nano]

Well, college-aged and dead.

I'm not gonna say she looks good, but I might question whether she, specifically, should. Not even Toreador master race.

What are you even on about? This is the vampire genre, not zombies.

 

[Delterius]

elif is cute

 

[Delterius]

Well, college-aged and dead.

I'm not gonna say she looks good, but I might question whether she, specifically, should. Not even Toreador master race.

What are you even on about? This is the vampire genre, not zombies.

brujah without at least a thrice broken nose before undeath is unrealistic tbh

 

[ZagorTeNej]

She was made uglier.

She was never meant to be a sexpot, like Tourette or VV.

Yeah, but she was still a cute, cool looking college chick type you'd flirt with. She certainly wasn't plain unattractive like she is now.

This has nothing to with more realistic graphics approach or some other bullshit excuse either. It's not a deal breaker or anything but no need to pretend.

 

[Delterius]

but she was still a cute

the character everyone used to hate because of being to the left of napalming vietnamese farmers

This has nothing to with more realistic graphics

some noses have ridges you know

 

[Roguey]

That's Trash, not Damsel.

This one?

 

[Jason Liang]

You know Brujah have Presence. Damsel was just using awe in the first game.

 

[Bad Sector]

Bad Sector's post is correct: It's a reasonable adaptation of Damsel's appearance to a more realistic, less stylized graphical style.

No, she is not "realistic".
No, she doesn't look like the old Damsel. How many excuses some of you will make to try to hide the obvious? She was made uglier.

Just to be clear, my original post was only about the nose size, not the entire character. I've already mentioned before that they went with a more realistic style in this game instead of the original's hyperstylized one which, like action comics (and older games which very often had visual designs inspired more by the ideal proportions seen in action comics - this isn't me making this up btw, i have a book from Paul Steed, one of the more known 90s 3D artists who wrote about that in there) used ideal proportions and this is why many characters look prettier there.

I do agree that she looks uglier than the original and that is partly because of the style, but also because she looks like a woman in her 40s instead of the college girl (ie. very early 20s at most) that she was supposed to be. From what i can tell this is mainly because of the visible lines under her eyes and nose/cheeks and the jaw shape being a bit too wide. Lighting doesn't help either, but i wouldn't add those details in the first place for a young character anyway.

 

[Serious_Business]

A conspiracy to make us desire ugly people and gays I see. Oh yes, the world is a dangerous place, full of malicious intentions, of deceit, of betrayal

 

[Morpheus Kitami]

Bad Sector's post is correct: It's a reasonable adaptation of Damsel's appearance to a more realistic, less stylized graphical style.

No, she is not "realistic".
No, she doesn't look like the old Damsel. How many excuses some of you will make to try to hide the obvious? She was made uglier.

Just to be clear, my original post was only about the nose size, not the entire character. I've already mentioned before that they went with a more realistic style in this game instead of the original's hyperstylized one which, like action comics (and older games which very often had visual designs inspired more by the ideal proportions seen in action comics - this isn't me making this up btw, i have a book from Paul Steed, one of the more known 90s 3D artists who wrote about that in there) used ideal proportions and this is why many characters look prettier there.

I do agree that she looks uglier than the original and that is partly because of the style, but also because she looks like a woman in her 40s instead of the college girl (ie. very early 20s at most) that she was supposed to be. From what i can tell this is mainly because of the visible lines under her eyes and nose/cheeks and the jaw shape being a bit too wide. Lighting doesn't help either, but i wouldn't add those details in the first place for a young character anyway.

I sort of buy that explanation, but I still say they changed her into effectively a different character. Take Lara Croft. She started off in that very same style you're describing, and, well, I don't like nu-Lara, but she does at least look like Lara in a realistic setting. Maybe it is just they aged her up unwisely, maybe the lighting. Wouldn't be the first time a returning character was poorly introduced. Would you say the differing brow-line falls under that same issue? I'm not an expert, I've just started noticing all the little things recently.

 

[RNGsus]

Sheeeeit. If I was making vampires, nobody'd wanna fuck em.

 

[Cat Dude]

Don't ever get your hopes up about having a decent sequel to Vampire Masquerade game.

 

[Sarkile]

I was a little disappointed in myself when I realized today that I fully expect this game to be bad and will still likely buy it day 1.

 

[Heroic Liberator]

I was a little disappointed in myself when I realized today that I fully expect this game to be bad and will still likely buy it day 1.

At least wait for a few days to get some honest reviews of it.

 

[compvet24]

I was a little disappointed in myself when I realized today that I fully expect this game to be bad and will still likely buy it day 1.

It is really unfair how I feel compelled to get it, not because of the game itself but because of the game before it. On paper it sounds like a horrible premise and not at all a good way to sell a game, but that is all it has going for it. Definitely won't purchase straight-away. At this point I will be impressed if it is anything but a disappointing politicized mess full of ugly characters and nostalgia.

 

[TemplarGR]

Don't ever get your hopes up about having a decent sequel to Vampire Masquerade game.

Yeah. I learned that lesson in 2004. I expected an awesome sequel to Vampire the Masquarade Redemption and all i got was Bloodlines.

 

[Roguey]

Damsel 2004:

Damsel 2020:

 

[Corvinus]

I think it would have been really fierce if she was wearing this oversized hoodie from vetements!

Are you a real person?

 

[Dishonoredbr]

IDK if anyone posted here but here:

Damsel in-game model.



Looks pretty good. Maybe the trailer didn't shown a good angle of her or the facial expressions are just shit. Or they just changed mid complaints0

 

[Semiurge]

i raise you a venus

Venus Double-Dare, am I right?

 

[Bad Sector]

Would you say the differing brow-line falls under that same issue? I'm not an expert, I've just started noticing all the little things recently.

Honestly, i don't know (and i'm not really an artist myself). It is possible that everything was wrong with the introduction, but personally i've long accepted that i simply do not like the more realistic style in Bloodlines 2 and i just hope that i will find the game entertaining once it comes out despite its stylistic choices (and TBH if i like a game i get used to the visuals quickly anyway).