World of Darkness Vampire: The Masquerade – Bloodlines 2 from Hardsuit Labs

[Saerain]

The Occam's razor explanation is that Damsel lost significant humanity since we last saw her, right? I mean she is a communist.

 

[ChildInTime]

I'm very bothered by the broken russian on Damsels shirt btw. Couldn't they look it up online or something?

 

[m_s0]

What trailer? I posted that when the stream was still ongoing. This is the link you want: https://rpgcodex.net/forums/index.php?threads/vampire-the-masquerade-–-bloodlines-2-from-hardsuit-labs-and-brian-mitsoda.126124/page-366#post-6752988

I don't. Same segment's in the archived stream.

 

[Wesp5]

I'm very bothered by the broken russian on Damsels shirt btw. Couldn't they look it up online or something?

What does it say, or better, what is it supposed to say?

 

[Harthwain]

Well, what you are talking about is not about bringing forth the end times, but just foreshadowing them within the fluff. That in itself is alright, but actually moving the plot forwards to the end times rather than simply hinting at what would ultimately happen within the setting is shooting yourself in the foot. The end times should serve as a bittersweet farewell to a setting which is either being discontinued or relaunched (as in the case of Age of Sigmar), not as the natural progression of a still popular franchise.

Then we are in agreement.

 

[ChildInTime]

I'm very bothered by the broken russian on Damsels shirt btw. Couldn't they look it up online or something?

What does it say, or better, what is it supposed to say?

I think their goal was to write "future nemesis".

I'm no language expert, so I can't explain it in the right way, but basically there are three gendered versions for the word "future" in russian - (f) (she) она - Будущая, (m) (he) он - Будущий, (nb) (it) оно - Будущее.

So it should say "БудущЕЕ возмездие" instead of "БудущАЯ возмездие". You simply can't write it like it's written there in the trailer, because adjectives in russian differ depending on the noun to which they belong.

Now that i've tried to exlpain it, it actually does sound rather complicated, so maybe it ain't as easy as looking it up online.

 

[Zer0wing]

I think their goal was to write "future nemesis".

Future retribution/Retribution to cumcome rather. Sounds retarded when directly translated to english, I know. But 'nemesis' is a noun in russian. And sounds cringy as fuck - "будущая немезида". Ugh.

Now that i've tried to exlpain it, it actually does sound rather complicated, so maybe it ain't as easy as looking it up online.

Simplest googling would explaing it pretty simple - russian language has three genders for adjectives which change the end of the word accordingly. The end. The rest of busy work is just to look up the english-russian dictionary.

 

[Sarkile]

I'm very bothered by the broken russian on Damsels shirt btw. Couldn't they look it up online or something?

It could make sense if she was just a stereotypical dumb Commiefornian who bought a shirt because it looks cool without understanding what it means or says. Or Hardsuit was lazy.

 

[Sailor Woedica]

I think it would have been really fierce if she was wearing this oversized hoodie from vetements!

 

[Zer0wing]

On the argument of her outfit making sense in the first place, I'd rather they give her a basic T-shirt with Carnivore's Retaliation print. Would save the meaning of the message but make it less retarded and still in-style.

Spoiler

This album

 

[Delterius]

Wait didn't the world of darkness go to shit thanks to Gehenna shortly after Bloodlines? How is Damsel around? Thought the new Vampire P&P was a completely different world? Am I wrong?

Only people who are really gone are some of the older vampires who can't resist the call of Gehenna and the Sabbat who followed it willingly, trying to kill the eldest. Damsel is too young and an Anarch.

TBH we used to think Damsel was the bald brujah with bad makeup from earlier promo material so its a good thing she still looks like herself.

 

[Sarkile]

Wait didn't the world of darkness go to shit thanks to Gehenna shortly after Bloodlines? How is Damsel around? Thought the new Vampire P&P was a completely different world? Am I wrong?

Only people who are really gone are some of the older vampires who can't resist the call of Gehenna and the Sabbat who followed it willingly, trying to kill the eldest. Damsel is too young and an Anarch.

TBH we used to think Damsel was the bald brujah with bad makeup from earlier promo material so its a good thing she still looks like herself.

Yeah, they rebooted that bit of lore some time ago. I know it has already been discussed in-depth in this thread.

 

[Harthwain]

Future retribution/Retribution to cumcome rather. Sounds retarded when directly translated to english, I know. But 'nemesis' is a noun in russian. And sounds cringy as fuck - "будущая немезида". Ugh.

"Retribution is coming" sounds like the best translation. Unless it's supposed to be the Nemesis, the Greek goddess (as in: she is supposed to fulfill the role of Nemezis by dispensing retribution). In that case "Incoming Nemezis" (or "Nemezis is coming") is probably better, because it preserves the original meaning.

 

[Roguey]

TBH we used to think Damsel was the bald brujah with bad makeup from earlier promo material so its a good thing she still looks like herself.

An older and uglier version of herself, though I suppose it could have been even worse.

 

[Slaver1]

Small/medium groups of ideological extremists based out of certain large American cities have horrible track records of creating video games. Now imagine a similar budget in a based European country (or even Japan) made by an equivalent sized team who have more natural sensibilities and you end up with a much different proposition.

 

[Saerain]

Small/medium groups of ideological extremists based out of certain large American cities have horrible track records of creating video games. Now imagine a similar budget in a based European country (or even Japan) made by an equivalent sized team who have more natural sensibilities and you end up with a much different proposition.

CDPR, Bloober, Nine Dots, Ice-Pick Lodge, Piranha Bytes... even Spiders, Funcom, or Arkane. Yes, I do believe you have a point.

 

[S.torch]

she still looks like herself

She doesn't.

 

[Fedora Master]

Small/medium groups of ideological extremists based out of certain large American cities have horrible track records of creating video games. Now imagine a similar budget in a based European country (or even Japan) made by an equivalent sized team who have more natural sensibilities and you end up with a much different proposition.

>Japs
>"Natural sensibilities"

 

[Zombra]

she still looks like herself

She doesn't.

Correct - she doesn't look like a party balloon with googly eyes sharpied on any more. The graphics are higher fidelity, we're going to see wrinkles, faces with shapes besides "circle", noses with shapes besides "line", etc. You'll have to learn to live with it somehow.

 

[S.torch]

The graphics are higher fidelity

No, she is just ugly now. Just like every other character that has appeared.

 

[Infinitron]

Bad Sector's post is correct: It's a reasonable adaptation of Damsel's appearance to a more realistic, less stylized graphical style. Could they have made her hawter? Certainly. But the people who are saying "that looks nothing like Damsel wtf" are being silly.

 

[Semiurge]

TBH we used to think Damsel was the bald brujah with bad makeup from earlier promo material so its a good thing she still looks like herself.

An older and uglier version of herself, though I suppose it could have been even worse.

That's Trash, not Damsel.

 

[Nano]

It's a reasonable adaptation of Damsel's appearance to a more realistic, less stylized graphical style.

No, it isn't. There are middle-aged women who look younger than BL2 Damsel, never mind the fact that she's supposed to be college-aged.

 

[S.torch]

No, she is not "realistic".
No, she doesn't look like the old Damsel.

How many excuses some of you will make to try to hide the obvious? She was made uglier. That's it. Just like in many other games where devs go out of their way to make ugly characters, see Outer Worlds, recent Mortal Kombat and Resident Evill games. Developers themselves admited openly that they made their characters uglier on purpose.

Yet, some of you will insult our intelligence trying to hide the obvious behind petty excuses than don't hold themselves even for a second.

 

[Semiurge]

She was made uglier.

She was never meant to be a sexpot, like Tourette or VV.