World of Darkness Vampire: The Masquerade – Bloodlines 2 from Hardsuit Labs

[Wesp5]

Because no one fucking wants a gta clone with vampires.

Also wouldn't drive by turf wars endanger the Masquerade? I mean feeding from someone in a dark alley is one thing, but driving around with a tail of police cars is another...

 

[Feargus Jewhart]

Also wouldn't drive by turf wars endanger the Masquerade? I mean feeding from someone in a dark alley is one thing, but driving around with a tail of police cars is another...

Absolutely, since masquerade is generally not making too big a noise. Anything flashy would be breaking the masquerade. I really hope the developers keep this in mind.

 

[Wunderbar]

Vampire the Masquerade: Turf Wars. A Hideo Fluent game.
Steal cars, liberate outposts, gather respect points by spraying graffiti tags.

 

[Storyfag]

Its ok if i can blood witchery sorcerous magic stuffies.

Well, you can change your gender. The specialty thin-blood discipline has that as a 1-point ability.

Check your privilidge, shitlord! Gender bending is the exclusive purview of the Tzimisce

Because no one fucking wants a gta clone with vampires.

Also wouldn't drive by turf wars endanger the Masquerade? I mean feeding from someone in a dark alley is one thing, but driving around with a tail of police cars is another...

Which means engaging Ventrue, Torries, Dominate-inclined Tremere, and Nossie hackers in damage control. No biggie. It is pretty standard in WoD that when the Sabbath tries to conquer a city, they deliberately provoke Masquerade violations to force the Camarilla to tie up resources in maintaining it.

 

[fantadomat]

The Tzimisce house is the best part in bloodlines. It is always fun to kill them. I never understood if i managed to kill the creep in the game or he just managed to run away.

 

[FreeKaner]

Anyone who wants GTA with vampire theme plastered on needs to be beheaded. Because that is what it would be, a theme and not an actual vampire game.

Download some mods for regular GTA, I am sure there is a halloween themed one.

 

[Latelistener]

Is this a mobile app?

 

[Lacrymas]

Check your privilidge, shitlord! Gender bending is the exclusive purview of the Tzimisce

While I agree the Tzimisce are the most of the vampires, thin-bloods do indeed have a gender-changing spell.

Profane Hieros Gamos: User can change their gender

 

[Sailor Woedica]

Is this going to be like the Nighthawks visual novel but obvi set in the same world that LA By Night is played in?

 

[user]

-Are you so dumb, or pretending to be dumb enough to not be able to understand what Fluent is saying?
-Are you afraid you will be kicked out of the codex or ruin your rep after posting in that guilty pleasure thread?
-Did this man touch your open world video games in a bad way and ruined your childhood innocence?
help line for edgelords 24/7 on 877-565-8860

 

[fantadomat]

-Are you so dumb, or pretending to be dumb enough to not be able to understand what Fluent is saying?
-Are you afraid you will be kicked out of the codex or ruin your rep after posting in that guilty pleasure thread?
-Did this man touch your open world video games in a bad way and ruined your childhood innocence?
help line for edgelords 24/7 on 877-565-8860

 

[FreeKaner]

-Are you so dumb, or pretending to be dumb enough to not be able to understand what Fluent is saying?
-Are you afraid you will be kicked out of the codex or ruin your rep after posting in that guilty pleasure thread?
-Did this man touch your open world video games in a bad way and ruined your childhood innocence?
help line for edgelords 24/7 on 877-565-8860

hurr hurr fluent is just saying that it should be both gta and vtmb at the same time with level design of vtmb and expansive open world of gta why couldn't we think of that before?

Even if such thing was possible in terms of resources time, it would still be bad because it would bury the good content under piles of grind. All for what? So you can drive-by some vampires?

 

[fantadomat]

Open world vampire game will be shit,it have to be hub centred with a lot of side content.

 

[BEvers]

Open world vampire game will be shit,it have to be hub centred with a lot of side content.

That's what all the text only quests are for

 

[user]

-Are you so dumb, or pretending to be dumb enough to not be able to understand what Fluent is saying?
-Are you afraid you will be kicked out of the codex or ruin your rep after posting in that guilty pleasure thread?
-Did this man touch your open world video games in a bad way and ruined your childhood innocence?
help line for edgelords 24/7 on 877-565-8860

hurr hurr fluent is just saying that it should be both gta and vtmb at the same time with level design of vtmb and expansive open world of gta why couldn't we think of that before?

Even if such thing was possible in terms of resources time, it would still be bad because it would bury the good content under piles of grind. All for what? So you can drive-by some vampires?

It's not like I don't understand everyone's concerns about such a thing happening. And I don't really believe that a VTM with a world scope of GTA would be possible resource-wise. But it doesn't have to strictly have small hubs in order to shine like the old one and not everyone has to panic when he hears the word GTA. Some well-placed, non-handcrafted content (like a random encounter) would help breath life into the game. Or a less linear world that will encourage some exploration. VTM:B for example already had various random generic people you could just drink from - in the same sense, generic things are not always bad, as long as they properly add to the worldbuilding. Not saying that the handcrafted content should get the short end of the stick either. What I am saying is that both ARE possible - even if not likely.

 

[Lacrymas]

Being optimistic about something (open-world games like GTA) that has time and time again shown itself to be utterly incompatible with what VtM is is pointless and dumb. If they make it an open-world, it WILL be full of bullshit and grind, with the occasional potentially good set-piece or story. What's the point in that? If the only good bits are the handcrafted story segments (like, you know, Bloodlines), just make a string of handcrafted story segments and cut out the fluff. I don't know, wanting this game to be "a good open-world game" seems both naive and a bit tasteless.

 

[Storyfag]

An open world game needs content, a significant portion of which WILL end up as combat encounters. Being a Cainite, you are the predator, with Kine being the prey. Therefore to be meaningful in the slightest, the combat encounters ought to throw Hunters, Ghouls, other Cainites, Werewolves, and Magi at you. If these become common sight, it will start hurting my suspension of disbelief, and therefore it will start hurting the game (this is my main beef with VtMR, btw). The other solution is to level-scale the 3 hobo rapegang, which is just ridiculous.

So no, an open world game will not lend itself well to a Vampire game. The world will be either empty, or patently nonsensical.

 

[Delterius]

Fluent pls

 

[user]

An open world game needs content, a significant portion of which WILL end up as combat encounters. Being a Cainite, you are the predator, with Kine being the prey. Therefore to be meaningful in the slightest, the combat encounters ought to throw Hunters, Ghouls, other Cainites, Werewolves, and Magi at you. If these become common sight, it will start hurting my suspension of disbelief, and therefore it will start hurting the game (this is my main beef with VtMR, btw). The other solution is to level-scale the 3 hobo rapegang, which is just ridiculous.

So no, an open world game will not lend itself well to a Vampire game. The world will be either empty, or patently nonsensical.

Your way of thinking is more linear than the chinatown hub.

 

[Space Nugget]

agentorange What gives?

 

[deuxhero]

The easy solution to the overly populated supernatural is to make the challenge not based on difficulty of opposition, but difficulty of doing it clean: No masquerade violations, no cops looking for a psycho/Punisher fitting your description, no humanity loss.

 

[ga♥]

Murphy's Law. Really, though, it makes sense, since 5E has mostly Caitiff as protagonists (afaik), they don't have to put in clan reactions and they can justify it by saying "Caitiff can have all the disciplines, make your own clan! Yay!". They can also shill the oppressed minority angle.

No? 5E has Caitiffs as playable "race"... but this doesn't make them protagonists. All other clans are still available in the core manuals (and also clans have more pages dedicated to them).
Any source for this or you just pulled it out your ass?

 

[Lacrymas]

I think it's obvious that is my prediction. Caitiff can be (and are) protagonists in 5E, so I foresee them choosing the easy way out.

 

[Space Nugget]

15 days to go (or, as some might say around here: "a whole month").

 

[Tavernking]

14.5 days to go