World of Darkness Vampire: The Masquerade – Bloodlines 2 - VTMB sequel from The Chinese Room - coming early 2025

[Storyfag]

In the trailer, the first set of arms at the very start seem to belong to a man, while later on they seem to be strictly feminine. So I assume you can pick the sex of the playable character.

Maybe you will be able to change it along the way.

You should. If you pick Tzimisce as your Clan, or ask one. Or annoy one.

 

[Storyfag]

it's a specific thing WoD started doing to be edgy

Nah, D&D 3.5E was already on that feminist pronoun bullshit.

They had a canon character for each class with a defined sex and race, and used that character's pronouns for all description involving that class. For example, the "iconic" Druid was female, so all the Druid's class description used female pronouns. The DM was also assumed to be female and they used female pronouns for it. For NPCs and other generic things, IIRC they alternated between pronouns.

I can attest for DnD5, but 3.5? Naaah.

 

[Wesp5]

Hey, are you involved as you were with Hardsuit labs? Any contact with the Chinese Room?

No. Nobody contacted me ever and I don't know what to do if they did. Of course I would like to beta test the new game, on the other hand the way they treated Mitsoda was not okay! BTW, anybody ever found a leaked video online from what HSL showed me, and the press, about the old beginning of the game? The one with the mass embrace and court session? Because this certainly will not be used anymore and thus is now lost forever...

 

[ColaWerewolf]

No. Nobody contacted me ever and I don't know what to do if they did. Of course I would like to beta test the new game, on the other hand the way they treated Mitsoda was not okay! BTW, anybody ever found a leaked video online from what HSL showed me, and the press, about the old beginning of the game? The one with the mass embrace and court session? Because this certainly will not be used anymore and thus is now lost forever...

If you're interested you should try and contact Josh Mathews, their community manager. You can find a business email and his socials on his youtube channel @StrangeAdventures

He streamed himself playing VtMB with the UP so for sure he knows about you, plus he's a big fan of B1 from even before he got onto this project. If you reach out you have good chances of getting to beta test. They have nothing to do with Mitsoda being fired.

 

[Jenkem]

Hey, are you involved as you were with Hardsuit labs? Any contact with the Chinese Room?

No. Nobody contacted me ever and I don't know what to do if they did. Of course I would like to beta test the new game, on the other hand the way they treated Mitsoda was not okay!

The Chinese Room didn't do anything to Mitsoda...

 

[Cricket McBangle]

Hey, are you involved as you were with Hardsuit labs? Any contact with the Chinese Room?

No. Nobody contacted me ever and I don't know what to do if they did. Of course I would like to beta test the new game, on the other hand the way they treated Mitsoda was not okay! BTW, anybody ever found a leaked video online from what HSL showed me, and the press, about the old beginning of the game? The one with the mass embrace and court session? Because this certainly will not be used anymore and thus is now lost forever...

Random question but Vandal Cleaver was supposed to be Mr. Damp, right?

 

[Ismaul]

it's a specific thing WoD started doing to be edgy

Nah, D&D 3.5E was already on that feminist pronoun bullshit.

They had a canon character for each class with a defined sex and race, and used that character's pronouns for all description involving that class. For example, the "iconic" Druid was female, so all the Druid's class description used female pronouns. The DM was also assumed to be female and they used female pronouns for it. For NPCs and other generic things, IIRC they alternated between pronouns.

I can attest for DnD5, but 3.5? Naaah.

Nigger I had the manuals open to confirm while writing.

I think it started with 3.5E and not 3E; not sure, I don't have the 3E manuals on hand anymore.

Here's part of p.33 of the 3.5E PHB, first page of the druid. Followed by p.42, the paladin. It's the same for the monk, rogue, wizard, and a lot of other stuff.

And here is the DMG 3.5E, p.11, with the switching between male and female pronouns when refering to a player. One could even say the connotations are more negative towards players with male pronouns, but I think that would be reading too much into it.

There is more obviously, those are just random pages I flipped to, manuals are like that all over.

 

[Roguey]

I think it started with 3.5E and not 3E; not sure, I don't have the 3E manuals on hand anymore.

I have a third edition phb and can confirm it universally uses female pronouns.

Shouldn't have relied on my memory I went back and checked it it bounces between the two or uses "his or her"

 

[Ismaul]

I think it started with 3.5E and not 3E; not sure, I don't have the 3E manuals on hand anymore.

I have a third edition phb and can confirm it universally uses female pronouns.

Alrighty then.

Wizards of the Woke from the start.

 

[Wesp5]

Random question but Vandal Cleaver was supposed to be Mr. Damp, right?

Yes, as far as I know.

 

[Roguey]

I think it started with 3.5E and not 3E; not sure, I don't have the 3E manuals on hand anymore.

I have a third edition phb and can confirm it universally uses female pronouns.

Alrighty then.

Wizards of the Woke from the start.

I was mistaken, I should have physically checked the book first.

 

[Ismaul]

I think it started with 3.5E and not 3E; not sure, I don't have the 3E manuals on hand anymore.

I have a third edition phb and can confirm it universally uses female pronouns.

Alrighty then.

Wizards of the Woke from the start.

I was mistaken, I should have physically checked the book first.

It's cool. Just means my memory hasn't failed me.

 

[skaraher]

it's a specific thing WoD started doing to be edgy

Nah, D&D 3.5E was already on that feminist pronoun bullshit.

They had a canon character for each class with a defined sex and race, and used that character's pronouns for all description involving that class. For example, the "iconic" Druid was female, so all the Druid's class description used female pronouns. The DM was also assumed to be female and they used female pronouns for it. For NPCs and other generic things, IIRC they alternated between pronouns.

I can attest for DnD5, but 3.5? Naaah.

It was all over Eberron and Pathfinder manuals, which were near the end of 3.5 cycle. Dont think there was that thing in the Core handbooks.

 

[Tuco Benedicto Pacifico]

"I don't even know how to end this".
he surely seemed to know how to drag it just past the 10 minutes mark, though.

 

[RagingNomad]

In official discord channel community manager Deb said that they will show us something very soon

 

[Delterius]

"I don't even know how to end this".
he surely seemed to know how to drag it just past the 10 minutes mark, though.

a metaphor for vampiric life

see how it all comes together

 

[Vincente]

In official discord channel community manager Deb said that they will show us something very soon

Have they answered whether we will be able to buy guns and keep them, or we will discard them like HSL version?

 

[Delterius]

In official discord channel community manager Deb said that they will show us something very soon

Have they answered whether we will be able to buy guns and keep them, or we will discard them like HSL version?

i'm afraid to say that in grimdarkness of 2020 the evil (wod) government of the united states passed a new amendment to make all guns disposable. on the upside american gdp growth surged to 10% a year.

 

[The President]

The usage of her instead of something gender neutral is a modern ploy to pretend that they’re pro women.

Very weird and confusing to non English speaking people. I always thought that "they" is the correct term.

You’re correct it is they. It’s weird and confusing to us native English speakers as well, but this is the idiocy coming from modern American universities.

As for the video you saw that at expo, Wesp you’ll be one of the few people to ever see it. It’s probably lost forever or on some guys hard drive.

 

[RagingNomad]

In official discord channel community manager Deb said that they will show us something very soon

Have they answered whether we will be able to buy guns and keep them, or we will discard them like HSL version?

She can't say anything until official news

 

[Herumor]

In official discord channel community manager Deb said that they will show us something very soon

She can't say anything until official news

Then why say anything at all? It's like an announcement for an announcement at some future date.

 

[Nortar]

In official discord channel community manager Deb said that they will show us something very soon

She can't say anything until official news

Then why say anything at all? It's like an announcement for an announcement at some future date.

Bro, it's hype-machine 101 - countdown for a teaser of announcement for announcement.
A nothingburger everyone's crazy about.

 

[Ismaul]

it's a specific thing WoD started doing to be edgy

Nah, D&D 3.5E was already on that feminist pronoun bullshit.

They had a canon character for each class with a defined sex and race, and used that character's pronouns for all description involving that class. For example, the "iconic" Druid was female, so all the Druid's class description used female pronouns. The DM was also assumed to be female and they used female pronouns for it. For NPCs and other generic things, IIRC they alternated between pronouns.

I can attest for DnD5, but 3.5? Naaah.

It was all over Eberron and Pathfinder manuals, which were near the end of 3.5 cycle. Dont think there was that thing in the Core handbooks.

Scroll up my man. Screens are from the core.

 

[leino]

Nigger I had the manuals open to confirm while writing.

I think it started with 3.5E and not 3E; not sure, I don't have the 3E manuals on hand anymore.

Here's part of p.33 of the 3.5E PHB, first page of the druid. Followed by p.42, the paladin. It's the same for the monk, rogue, wizard, and a lot of other stuff.

And here is the DMG 3.5E, p.11, with the switching between male and female pronouns when refering to a player. One could even say the connotations are more negative towards players with male pronouns, but I think that would be reading too much into it.

There is more obviously, those are just random pages I flipped to, manuals are like that all over.

The usage seems to predate 3.5e dnd in WoD cause checking the 2e VtM players guide from 1993 on libgen she appears throughout:

Spoiler

As an esl it seems fair enough to me, especially in a context like VtM where the characters in fact might as well be female as male. I think I've seen it in college textbooks so it may not even come from rpgs. Who knows

 

[skaraher]

it's a specific thing WoD started doing to be edgy

Nah, D&D 3.5E was already on that feminist pronoun bullshit.

They had a canon character for each class with a defined sex and race, and used that character's pronouns for all description involving that class. For example, the "iconic" Druid was female, so all the Druid's class description used female pronouns. The DM was also assumed to be female and they used female pronouns for it. For NPCs and other generic things, IIRC they alternated between pronouns.

I can attest for DnD5, but 3.5? Naaah.

It was all over Eberron and Pathfinder manuals, which were near the end of 3.5 cycle. Dont think there was that thing in the Core handbooks.

Scroll up my man. Screens are from the core.

My bad, never noticed it in the french manual so maybe it was canned by the translation team. Or maybe it's my rose tinted glasses speaking.