World of Darkness Vampire: The Masquerade – Bloodlines 2 - VTMB sequel from The Chinese Room - coming early 2025

[NecroLord]

Snippet of VTMB2 from a new Chinese Room showreel:

WOW!
You can see your character's hands!! While I press x to perform stealth kill!
GOTY incoming.

 

[Vincente]

Snippet of VTMB2 from a new Chinese Room showreel:

This was already in the first reveal trailer.

 

[Roguey]

Presumptuous to put two unreleased games in a showreel.

Also that footage was from the trailer.

 

[The President]

So many people were worried when Mitsoda was lost, when it may in fact be losing Rik Schaffer that will be the real loss of HSL’s fuck up. I doubt his music is still in.

 

[Storyfag]

So many people were worried when Mitsoda was lost, when it may in fact be losing Rik Schaffer that will be the real loss of HSL’s fuck up. I doubt his music is still in.

True, however those pieces he did reveal to have composed for BL2 were mostly rehashes of his BL1 tracks, so nothing groundbreaking at this point.

 

[Zombra]

I wouldn't call it the dominant mood of VtB.

Nobody who abbreviates it as "Vampire the Bloodlines" is allowed to have an opinion on its moods and themes. That wasn't a typo, you did it 3 times.

 

[Storyfag]

I wouldn't call it the dominant mood of VtB.

Nobody who abbreviates it as "Vampire the Bloodlines" is allowed to have an opinion on its moods and themes. That wasn't a typo, you did it 3 times.

He's gunning for one of the tags.

 

[Semiurge]

It should have quality licensed songs in all the right places. Songs like

Imagine a Vampire game with large open-world city you could travel by motorcycles and cars, the radio blasting Billy Idol, Type O Negative or Sisters of Mercy etc. Damn!

Add "Twist of Cain" or "Deep" by Danzig and even most zoomers would have a boomer boner.

 

[La vie sexuelle]

I wouldn't call it the dominant mood of VtB.

Nobody who abbreviates it as "Vampire the Bloodlines" is allowed to have an opinion on its moods and themes. That wasn't a typo, you did it 3 times.

Tautologies are very sweet. Let me present my own:

No one named Zombra should comment on RPG Codex. Zombra's nickname is "Zombra" so he should not comment on this or any thread on this forum.

He's gunning for one of the tags.

"The Sexy Frenchman".

"Aquitaine breeze".

"Moist baguette".

"Powerful thighs of love".

 

[Zombra]

Joined: Jun 10, 2023

 

[and 8 others]

best menu theme ever written imo, the drop is goosebumps



but yeah, you on some kind of shroom if you think "depression" and the laconic isn't a vital part of the vtm aesthetic

It reminds me eerily of one of the Massive Attack songs from the Mezzanine album, Angel maybe?

 

[La vie sexuelle]

Joined: Jun 10, 2023

Zombra​

Joined: January 12, 2004​

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[S.torch]

Bloodlines songs should sound like being strung out on depressants and this song fits the bill just fine. Haters are just stuck in the past.

I think what our fellow Dexer was trying to say here, is that the track shown isn't similar to those of the first Bloodlines. Now, 'depressive' is a mood and as such is subject from one person to another what songs they may find depressive.

Instead, more accurate would be to say that the song's genre isn't the same of the songs found in the first game, which most belong to metal, black metal, alternative rock, darkwave, goth and punk; with the particular flavour of the 2000s scene on top. Since the song posted sounds like none of this, saying that is different is just stating the obvious, not a hater's comment.

And putting that aside, depressive wasn't the mood of most vocal songs in original Bloodlines. If anything, most ranged from extremely aggressive...



...to whimsical and witchy...



...to dark and gothic.



But not depressive.

 

[NecroLord]

Joined: Jun 10, 2023

Nigger, you have 401 people on ignore.
Go back to your Reddit goon cave.

 

[0wca]

Rik already figured it out, no?

Is this real main menu song or fake?

Real, but from the previous attempt at BL2. No telling whether TCR kept it.

Rik did a big mistake trying to do a 2.0 version of the original. Going that route was always going to have it be compared to the original which it couln't possibly live up to.

He should have just come up with a new theme from scratch.

Snippet of VTMB2 from a new Chinese Room showreel:

WOW!
You can see your character's hands!! While I press x to perform stealth kill!
GOTY incoming.

To be fair, in BL it was press 'e' to perform stealth kill.

 

[Storyfag]

Rik did a big mistake trying to do a 2.0 version of the original. Going that route was always going to have it be compared to the original which it couln't possibly live up to.

There is more to it. People often expect and enjoy musical links to a previous installment. Cue the unmistakable Witcher theme in every part. But there its just like 5 chords inserted into this and that song. Rik took entire song and tweaked them. That can also work, as in the case of Red Alert and its famous Hell March, but should be used sparingly.

 

[0wca]

Rik did a big mistake trying to do a 2.0 version of the original. Going that route was always going to have it be compared to the original which it couln't possibly live up to.

There is more to it. People often expect and enjoy musical links to a previous installment. Cue the unmistakable Witcher theme in every part. But there its just like 5 chords inserted into this and that song. Rik took entire song and tweaked them. That can also work, as in the case of Red Alert and its famous Hell March, but should be used sparingly.

Eh, it tends to fail more often than it works since it's clearly trying to bank in on nostalgia.

The game doesn't have the whole 90s industrial goth style so why drag a similar theme through it. Just make something that would fit for the modern adaptation.

 

[ColaWerewolf]

But not depressive.

It's a bit subjective, but I found the Asp Hole's song to be depressive, which fit with Ash's self-pitying, suicidal personality. Depressive songs definitely fit with VtM, especially if Toreador are involved.

 

[Wesp5]

It's a bit subjective, but I found the Asp Hole's song to be depressive, which fit with Ash's self-pitying, suicidal personality. Depressive songs definitely fit with VtM, especially if Toreador are involved.

Rik Schaffer wasn't involved with the licensed songs, but he said in an interview that when making the Bloodlines music, he was at a low point in his live which made the music so powerful and fitting.

 

[Roguey]

Instead, more accurate would be to say that the song's genre isn't the same of the songs found in the first game, which most belong to metal, black metal, alternative rock, darkwave, goth and punk; with the particular flavour of the 2000s scene on top. Since the song posted sounds like none of this, saying that is different is just stating the obvious, not a hater's comment.

There were people here and in the youtube comments expressing their dislike of their song, so yes, those people would be haters.

And putting that aside, depressive wasn't the mood of most vocal songs in original Bloodlines.

So what? Chiasm's Isolated is pretty iconic and that's very melancholy. This was also a song made especially for the game, not not a pre-existing licensed track, and we have no idea what any other licensed tracks will be like, if any exist.

Additionally

The licensed tracks were chosen by Activision without input from Troika.

You're praising the creative choices of soulless suits and not people who would have perhaps had different feelings of what was appropriate for their game.

 

[Häyhä]

The licensed tracks were chosen by Activision without input from Troika.

You're praising the creative choices of soulless suits and not people who would have perhaps had different feelings of what was appropriate for their game.

So? Obviously the "suit" in charge knew what he was doing and licenced good songs that fit the game. Also, it's not solely "their" (Troika's) game, they were hired craftsmen not some auteur artists. They worked with a commercial publisher to make a commercial entertainment product and made a game in an established IP, so it was not purely "their" creation at any point to begin with.

 

[Vincente]

I liked Midnight.

 

[Roguey]

So? Obviously the "suit" in charge knew what he was doing and licenced good songs that fit the game.

Subjective. I thought most of the tracks were crap myself.

Leonard: The music licensing was done through Activision. We weren’t involved.

Doesn't sound like a guy who was 100% happy with their decisions.

Also, it's not solely "their" (Troika's) game, they were hired craftsmen not some auteur artists. They worked with a commercial publisher to make a commercial entertainment product and made a game in an established IP, so it was not purely "their" creation at any point to begin with.

They have to follow guidelines, but no creator likes it when moneymen hire them to do a job and then micromanages certain decisions.

 

[Storyfag]

There were people here and in the youtube comments expressing their dislike of their song, so yes, those people would be haters.

This is a poorly thought-out take. Not every expeession of dislike equals hate.

They have to follow guidelines, but no creator likes it when moneymen hire them to do a job and then micromanages certain decisions.

I am for some reason reminded of all those Popes who dared to demand that auteurs finish their paintings and sculptures on time

 

[Xelocix]

I've got a news flash for all you queers saying you like midnight:

THIS GAME IS GOING TO FUCKING SUCK!!

Saying you like this queer song isn't making you look cool, you just seem like a cock-licker who likes low-t mumbleshit pop music and supports the decline of WOD/VTM. So yeah, stfu and kill yourselves. Kthxbai.