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Vampyr - vampire action-RPG from Life Is Strange devs

fantadomat

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Characters expressing opinions on women's rights or class privilege in the times when millions of people where involved in women suffrage movemen or labour movement / communist activities must be SJW injecting their views into videogames...

Why so many alt-righters are such imbeciles? Does youtube educayshun turns a normal person into a morron, or do they watch popular alt-right youtubers because they are already braindead?
I don't have problem with this,i dislike that my playable character just preaches about such shit. From all three options there isn't a "go fuck yourself faggot" option,all of them are politely agreeing and encouraging them.
Well... you can kill them.
I wouldn't call that polite.

What is your problem, though? That you can't roleplay a complete shithead? :lol:

Seriously, though, if they allowed you to be in-your-face-negative about these issues in the game, the shitstorm would be epic.
Also, these are the devs of Life Is Strange.
Given those two reasons alone... what did you expect?
Oh i have no problem at all,also i got what expected. I am just having shit throwing conversation on the codex. Seeing a little bit of butthurt from Pretty and a few other,is amusing. I don't hate the game,it is pretty decent for what it is.

As for those characters....well i punish them worst than death :lol:. Still it is shame that games takes away you option of dialogue interactions. It feels that you are just a side character hovering around the protagonist and observing his actions and speeches.

Basically any game without a character creator is going to run into this issue. A single pre-made player character(especially with VO) is going to run into this problem. You already know going in that your options for player choice about the protagonist will be limited. You are more choosing the attitude of the main character or maybe his tactics/strategy rather than his morality or core beliefs.
Not really,a lot of good action rpgs have premade character. Gothic games,Demoticon,Elex,Tehcnomancer and a few others. They all have premade characters yet they don't take the choice away from the player. The only choice you have in this game is who are you going to eat. When you see a modern liberal in this game he is automatically agreeing with them and saying that he is not a bigot or something similar. When somebody say that they are gay after 5 minutes of dialogue,you have only the options to politely agree with them,more politely agree with them or agree with them and say to be careful because there are evil nazi bigots out there.
 

Cael

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The only choice you have in this game is who are you going to eat. When you see a modern liberal in this game he is automatically agreeing with them and saying that he is not a bigot or something similar. When somebody say that they are gay after 5 minutes of dialogue,you have only the options to politely agree with them,more politely agree with them or agree with them and say to be careful because there are evil nazi bigots out there.
I don't really think you have a choice in whom you eat either. You see a modern liberal, a bright neon sign pops up over its head saying, "Eat me! Eeeeeaaaaattttt meeeeeee!!!!!"
 

Kyl Von Kull

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A trusted source tells me it’s like Witcher 3 lite (make of that what you will; he means quality popamole for storyfags), but pleasantly difficult if you're keen on keeping your people alive, as others have mentioned ITT.

Not really, a lot of good action rpgs have premade character. Gothic games,Demoticon,Elex,Tehcnomancer and a few others. They all have premade characters yet they don't take the choice away from the player. The only choice you have in this game is who are you going to eat. When you see a modern liberal in this game he is automatically agreeing with them and saying that he is not a bigot or something similar. When somebody say that they are gay after 5 minutes of dialogue,you have only the options to politely agree with them,more politely agree with them or agree with them and say to be careful because there are evil nazi bigots out there.

As for the gay stuff, our hero is a respected doctor, which almost certainly means he went to an Edwardian era British boarding school. To say that was a very homoerotic environment would be putting it lightly. Everyone knows toffs are comfortable with buggery. That said, I’ll concede that no one should be outing himself to a stranger in 1918 unless he wants to spend a few years doing hard labor for the crown a la Oscar Wilde, so I agree that it’s incredibly anachronistic.

But, you know, of course the game is going to reflect modern western sensibilities. Like it or not, the culture war is over in the first world and the forces of progress won. Anything that wants to appeal to a mass market audience will reflect those sensibilities. They can be more or less hamfisted about it, but it will be there, particularly in a game made by Frenchmen. This is not a social justice warrior conspiracy, it’s the dominant strain of the culture.
 

flyingjohn

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But, you know, of course the game is going to reflect modern western sensibilities. Like it or not, the culture war is over in the first world and the forces of progress won. .
There was never a war to begin with.Sjw have had full control of courts ,media and politics for decades.All they are doing now is moping up any resistance.
For games that means the only way to get anything published that is not sjw is to be independent and finance yourself,which is a nightmare.
 
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Writing is bad to average. When given 2 dialogue options you should always start with the left one, if you pick the right node, your character might say something he doesnt know yet. Even though the game have nice "everyone have secrets you need to discover" mechanic, NPCs still often tell you things they shouldnt be comfortable telling to complete stranger (without forcing them with your powers of course). And the opposite problem: protagonist will often coerce NPCs to talk even when asking about completely neutral things. That booming voice is silly when asking about yesterdays dinner.
Voice acting is average to good. Main character is quite great actually.
Combat is serviceable, I guess. You can beat even much stronger opponents if you dont get hit, it is going to take a while though. Combat is too easy in my opinion. You can break things like tables or chairs by dashing through them, but flat wooden palette is enough to stop you. From narrative perspective I dont like the fact that you cant be neutral with vampire hunters, when questing game quite often forces you to kill them, even though, so far, they seem like cool lads, risking their life to save their family and neighbors from vampire menace.
When using mouse, when looking on the map, you physically cant change the tab without moving the map up. You cannot drag the map, edge-pan only. Game is actually working really well on my shit tier PC, loading screens are short even on HDD.
 

Lacrymas

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You can fail at getting hints for people, which is incline. All in all, some of the design decisions, like tying massive xp gains to killing notable NPCs and being able to fail at getting hints, is incline for this type of AA action game. The hints are basically a humanizing tactic, meant to make you sympathize and get to know these people better, it makes killing them harder from a psychological perspective. The xp bonuses is exactly how you do that. Pretty genius move I'd say for this particular type of narrative. Too bad they are shackled to this action thing, would've been a pretty good RPG with a better combat system and less popamole. I can't comment on the writing yet, I haven't gotten to the meat of things, but it's succinct at least. The protagonist is very invasive and creepy about using his confession powers, he uses them for personal things that most don't go anywhere and just embarrass the person he is speaking with. I don't know if that's intentional or what.
 

Big Wrangle

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Really hope Dontnod continues going on this direction, for they have potentional. Getting the feeling that Life is Strange was a mere cashgrab and Vampyr being something they actually wanted to make. If LiS season 2 will result in an improved Vampyr followup, sign me up.
 

Plisken

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the game is fine, retards saying there is SJW shit in this game is just indicative of how far the brain rot on the internet has progressed where anytime there is an uppity female or a brown skinned character its SJW SHIT OMGGG. I'm five hours in and the only poz I've encountered is a passing insinuation that a character might be gay to which he responded more or less with "miss me with that gay shit bruv". And if you seriously think darkies weren't complaining about their treatment and society before 1960, you're just plain stupid.

the major flaw of the game is that the moral dilemma falls flat on its face via the xp system. You get so much xp from just doing quests that the only reason to ever give someone the succ for juicy xp is simply because you don't like them. This would easily be rectified and make C&C in the game feel significantly more impactful, just by making it so you ONLY get xp from embracing.

Its such a simple fix, and it could even be optional so the casuals don't cry, but I'm not holding my breath for them to patch this in.
 

fantadomat

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A trusted source tells me it’s like Witcher 3 lite (make of that what you will; he means quality popamole for storyfags), but pleasantly difficult if you're keen on keeping your people alive, as others have mentioned ITT.

Not really, a lot of good action rpgs have premade character. Gothic games,Demoticon,Elex,Tehcnomancer and a few others. They all have premade characters yet they don't take the choice away from the player. The only choice you have in this game is who are you going to eat. When you see a modern liberal in this game he is automatically agreeing with them and saying that he is not a bigot or something similar. When somebody say that they are gay after 5 minutes of dialogue,you have only the options to politely agree with them,more politely agree with them or agree with them and say to be careful because there are evil nazi bigots out there.

As for the gay stuff, our hero is a respected doctor, which almost certainly means he went to an Edwardian era British boarding school. To say that was a very homoerotic environment would be putting it lightly. Everyone knows toffs are comfortable with buggery. That said, I’ll concede that no one should be outing himself to a stranger in 1918 unless he wants to spend a few years doing hard labor for the crown a la Oscar Wilde, so I agree that it’s incredibly anachronistic.

But, you know, of course the game is going to reflect modern western sensibilities. Like it or not, the culture war is over in the first world and the forces of progress won. Anything that wants to appeal to a mass market audience will reflect those sensibilities. They can be more or less hamfisted about it, but it will be there, particularly in a game made by Frenchmen. This is not a social justice warrior conspiracy, it’s the dominant strain of the culture.

Mate,you are my favourite SJW on this site,you always know how to word yourself so it would make your post sound agreeable/logical/balanced while putting some shit in it ;). I can respect some good social skillz and intelligence.:salute:

The game reminds me of some mix between technomancer and nu Thief. The writing have a lot taken from Vampire,but sadly not on the same level. The game is difficult until you found the second two handed weapon and upgrade it,you get it in the first chapter. Also just pump up health and stamina/endurance.

I don't know about 20th century boarding schools or how faggy they were. Still i doubt that every second boy was a fag that wanted the sound wet balls hitting wet balls. Most of those schools were near some village that had girls in it. How do you think all those bastards are born?

You focus far too much on my simple example about puffers,while ignoring my main critique that the game lacks a choice and you just play a guy that have political and social views,that would have been pretty non existing during that time. The dialogue feels really off some times,when you choose an option that the writer didn't expected you. How you agree with some "evil bigot" in your option,the guys says it very forcefully and the next dialogue your protagonist begins passionately insulting the said "evil bigot". It is very off putting how disconnected the dialogue writing and voice acting is.

Don't know about what war you are talking about. All i see is crumbling socialist governments and the real dangers of civil wars. I am no talking about merica.

You can fail at getting hints for people, which is incline.
If done well,here it is not that well. Failing to know something that you already know is retarded. I noticed that you fail if you pick anything other than the upper left option. The biggest problem is that you don't have the option to save while dialogue options are unclear.
 

Plisken

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A trusted source tells me it’s like Witcher 3 lite (make of that what you will; he means quality popamole for storyfags), but pleasantly difficult if you're keen on keeping your people alive, as others have mentioned ITT.

Not really, a lot of good action rpgs have premade character. Gothic games,Demoticon,Elex,Tehcnomancer and a few others. They all have premade characters yet they don't take the choice away from the player. The only choice you have in this game is who are you going to eat. When you see a modern liberal in this game he is automatically agreeing with them and saying that he is not a bigot or something similar. When somebody say that they are gay after 5 minutes of dialogue,you have only the options to politely agree with them,more politely agree with them or agree with them and say to be careful because there are evil nazi bigots out there.

As for the gay stuff, our hero is a respected doctor, which almost certainly means he went to an Edwardian era British boarding school. To say that was a very homoerotic environment would be putting it lightly. Everyone knows toffs are comfortable with buggery. That said, I’ll concede that no one should be outing himself to a stranger in 1918 unless he wants to spend a few years doing hard labor for the crown a la Oscar Wilde, so I agree that it’s incredibly anachronistic.

But, you know, of course the game is going to reflect modern western sensibilities. Like it or not, the culture war is over in the first world and the forces of progress won. Anything that wants to appeal to a mass market audience will reflect those sensibilities. They can be more or less hamfisted about it, but it will be there, particularly in a game made by Frenchmen. This is not a social justice warrior conspiracy, it’s the dominant strain of the culture.

Mate,you are my favourite SJW on this site,you always know how to word yourself so it would make your post sound agreeable/logical/balanced while putting some shit in it ;). I can respect some good social skillz and intelligence.:salute:

The game reminds me of some mix between technomancer and nu Thief. The writing have a lot taken from Vampire,but sadly not on the same level. The game is difficult until you found the second two handed weapon and upgrade it,you get it in the first chapter. Also just pump up health and stamina/endurance.

I don't know about 20th century boarding schools or how faggy they were. Still i doubt that every second boy was a fag that wanted the sound wet balls hitting wet balls. Most of those schools were near some village that had girls in it. How do you think all those bastards are born?

You focus far too much on my simple example about puffers,while ignoring my main critique that the game lacks a choice and you just play a guy that have political and social views,that would have been pretty non existing during that time. The dialogue feels really off some times,when you choose an option that the writer didn't expected you. How you agree with some "evil bigot" in your option,the guys says it very forcefully and the next dialogue your protagonist begins passionately insulting the said "evil bigot". It is very off putting how disconnected the dialogue writing and voice acting is.

Don't know about what war you are talking about. All i see is crumbling socialist governments and the real dangers of civil wars. I am no talking about merica.

You can fail at getting hints for people, which is incline.
If done well,here it is not that well. Failing to know something that you already know is retarded. I noticed that you fail if you pick anything other than the upper left option. The biggest problem is that you don't have the option to save while dialogue options are unclear.


that post wasn't directed at you, it was directed at some of the steam reviews i had read that were putting me off from trying the game. e.g something something life is strange devs something sjw something shoehorned something something
 

fantadomat

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Chapter 3 boss is a bit nervous.
And pointless,you had no reason to fight him at all. They just force you because you have to be a hero to the downtrodden zombies. I would have ratter joined him on zombie eradication hunt, Latter on you hero becomes even more annoying,whining how those evil people from the secret club were constantly getting in his way,when that was the only interaction with them.

Plisken,i know mate,even agree with you on the second part. Still doesn't make you less butthurt ;) .
 

Xeon

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I am in the middle of chapter 3 and really enjoying the game so far. Really like the intrigue type of stuff for the blood hints.

Voice and music are really good, combat isn't bad IMO but AI seems really bad, at the start I went the high level areas and dragging enemies to the edge and hitting them while they were returning to get some bonus exp. Loading is kinda of a mess, some times it loads in 5-6 seconds and sometimes it takes 2-3 minutes for the same location, not sure what is up with that, at least loading areas doesn't happen that frequently.

Respawn didn't bother me much so far, I haven't been sleeping much to avoid failing or getting an NPC killed possibly by advancing time if that is possible. I am Lv11 with 5k~ extra exp and I haven't killed any of citizens yet, combat doesn't seem too difficult so far so I am not sure if I will kill any citizens or not.

Agree with fantadomat about there only being combat oriented stuff during level up and its kinda dumb you need keys for everything I think when you can probably break the lock or the door with vampire powers.
 

fantadomat

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Chapter 3 boss is a bit nervous.

Yeah was wondering about that. Seems like it could be easy to get killed if you aren't careful and aren't beefed up. Me? I ate Whitechapel and am level 28 or something. I just wreck shit.
:whatho:
I was 25 level with only eating the nigger in the hospital,how the fuck you are only 28?!

Life of the Party,yeah it is pretty hard pointless battle with stupid ending to it. If you have problem with it i can give you some pointers. I beat it with the club,not the mace,somehow it did more stun damage i was hitting more frequently,just upgrade it well. Powers outside of healing were pretty useless to me,maybe it is different for a power orientated character. The boss give powerful scream that could kill you when it is on half an quarter health bar. After the half mark it goes to kill the priest fully heal,so try to eat the priest when it goes for the scream or after if you get damaged. I found that dashing toward it when it goes on offensive combo with the cross is a good strategy,you get past the attack and on its back thus giving you an oportuninty to hit it a few times. Another good time to hit it is during its vomiting,you have time to hit it 3-5 times if you have the stamina,just remember to leave some for the dash out. Good luck :salute:.
 

Hobo Elf

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Chapter 3 boss is a bit nervous.

Yeah was wondering about that. Seems like it could be easy to get killed if you aren't careful and aren't beefed up. Me? I ate Whitechapel and am level 28 or something. I just wreck shit.
:whatho:
I was 25 level with only eating the nigger in the hospital,how the fuck you are only 28?!

sada.jpg


Either you cheated or there's something going on with XP scaling up/down that we aren't aware of yet. I ate all the pillars I was able to so far and haven't shied away from eating everyone I could in whitechapel, though that seems to have locked me out of the higher level NPCs since the place is ruined and hostile now. I've also done all the investigations that I've come across.
 

fantadomat

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Chapter 3 boss is a bit nervous.

Yeah was wondering about that. Seems like it could be easy to get killed if you aren't careful and aren't beefed up. Me? I ate Whitechapel and am level 28 or something. I just wreck shit.
:whatho:
I was 25 level with only eating the nigger in the hospital,how the fuck you are only 28?!

sada.jpg


Either you cheated or there's something going on with XP scaling up/down that we aren't aware of yet. I ate all the pillars I was able to so far and haven't shied away from eating everyone I could in whitechapel, though that seems to have locked me out of the higher level NPCs since the place is ruined and hostile now. I've also done all the investigations that I've come across.
Don't you get all the clues or are you not exploring?
 

Hobo Elf

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Chapter 3 boss is a bit nervous.

Yeah was wondering about that. Seems like it could be easy to get killed if you aren't careful and aren't beefed up. Me? I ate Whitechapel and am level 28 or something. I just wreck shit.
:whatho:
I was 25 level with only eating the nigger in the hospital,how the fuck you are only 28?!

sada.jpg


Either you cheated or there's something going on with XP scaling up/down that we aren't aware of yet. I ate all the pillars I was able to so far and haven't shied away from eating everyone I could in whitechapel, though that seems to have locked me out of the higher level NPCs since the place is ruined and hostile now. I've also done all the investigations that I've come across.
Don't you get all the clues or are you not exploring?

Everyone I ate either had all clues or were missing one.
 

Xeon

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The "Harder They Fall" investigation, how do you reach the place to Find the cause of death? its beyond a wall and I have been trying to find a place leads me there but there doesn't seem to be one, unless its a locked door or something.

EDIT:
I think I got my first bug, tried reloading but didn't work. My health isn't regening even with magic or item.
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Will try dying and if that didn't work will try sleeping, hopefully one of them will fix it.

EDIT2:
Nvm, I seem to be invulnerable, hope sleep will fix it but kinda want to keep it.
XYc2tru.png

Guess going to the main menu and then loading save right after death or close to it can cause problems or something.

I can't seem to target or regen anything so even if I bite them, I don't gain any blood but I do lose blood with power uses. Sleeping fixed it.
 
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I'm unironically enjoying the game and it runs well on my piece of shit computer

I can't believe I'll actually buy it
 

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the major flaw of the game is that the moral dilemma falls flat on its face via the xp system. You get so much xp from just doing quests that the only reason to ever give someone the succ for juicy xp is simply because you don't like them.
This is what I was afraid of. I take it there are no difficulty settings?
 

Lacrymas

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I wanted to comment some things about the music. The choir and the cellist are very good performers, the things they are singing and playing aren't easy at all. It's obvious they are professionals. I'm also happy that modern techniques, orchestration and musical language are being used to great effect without alienating the casual listener, while still being relevant to our current cultural climate. The music itself is a bit background-y, but I don't fault them for that, going all out would've been too much for now.
 

SkiNNyBane

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Grab the Codex by the pussy
I wanted to comment some things about the music. The choir and the cellist are very good performers, the things they are singing and playing aren't easy at all. It's obvious they are professionals. I'm also happy that modern techniques, orchestration and musical language are being used to great effect without alienating the casual listener, while still being relevant to our current cultural climate. The music itself is a bit background-y, but I don't fault them for that, going all out would've been too much for now.

Yea the musical atmosphere is amazing. That was the first thing that pleasantly surprised me and reminded me how important it is to set proper tone.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M2rG6jXWCQs
 

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