Incline Warhammer 40,000 Lore Thread

[NecroLord]

BTW, I dunno if this has been asked way back, but to all the thread's bros:

Q: What is your favourite Space Marine chapter personally, or if you have miniature, what Space Marine chapter do you play?

(Maybe the two are different?)

Blood Angels.

 

[Yaar Podshipnik]

Louis_Cypher just watched Pariah Nexus. Pretty good stuff, thanks for mentioning this. Made me like Salamanders even more.

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[Louis_Cypher]

Space vampires holding chalices like they are in Castlevania is one of the best looks in all of 40K. Blood Angels are amazing.

I think also a Chapter's homeworld makes for an interesting part of their lore. I like Fenris a lot. A Death World where almost every landmass is floating ice, full of sea monsters, that the natives hunt for whale meat. Every landmass cracks, meaning tribes must rebuild their great halls and longhouses constantly. In terms of spacial position, the big four's chapter worlds are spread roughly in a diamond covering the Imperium; Macragge, the Rock, Baal and Fenris. With the Imperial Fists guarding Terra.

Mentioned so far:

• - Ultramarines
• - Salamanders
• - Minotaurs
• - Imperial Fists
• - Space Wolves
• - White Scars
• - Ultramarines
• - Black Templars
• - Blood Angels

That's a nice spread of chapters.

 

[Mangoose]

Space vampires holding chalices like they are in Castlevania is one of the best looks in all of 40K.

I think also a Chapter's homeworld makes for an interesting part of their lore.

Death is nothing compared to vindication.

- Space Batman destroying Gotham City

 

[Mangoose]

People object because Ultramarines are the blandest of the chapters. There are far more interesting space marines that can be used as poster boys.

I used to dislike Ultramarines when I was a teenager, but nowadays they're my favourite chapter alongside, what's not to like with the Roman theme they have going on?

It's because when you were a teenager, Matt Ward poisoned the Ultramarines.

Only the people who have given Dan Abnett a chance have recently seen Guilliman punch heads off Chaos Marines in the vacuum of deep space, while also given an Super-Aspergers'-like mentality and capability for micromanagement. They literally have to remind Guilliman to stop micromanaging when he doesn't need to, since he can do it in the back of his head multitasking doing anything, and he also is so obsessed he accidentally micromanages the bureaucracy when he doesn't need to.

tfw Guilliman daydreaming about micromanaging Yvraine while Cawl is doing is bullshit

 

[Louis_Cypher]

Follow-up question, what is your favourite army overall? I think most people have mentioned theirs across in the thread, but it might be cool to see.

For me it's either Orks or Necrons. And if we were doing favourite units, probably the humble Necron Warrior.

 

[FritzedProcess]

People object because Ultramarines are the blandest of the chapters. There are far more interesting space marines that can be used as poster boys.

I used to dislike Ultramarines when I was a teenager, but nowadays they're my favourite chapter alongside, what's not to like with the Roman theme they have going on?

It's because when you were a teenager, Matt Ward poisoned the Ultramarines.

Only the people who have given Dan Abnett a chance have recently seen Guilliman punch heads off Chaos Marines in the vacuum of deep space, while also given an Super-Aspergers'-like mentality and capability for micromanagement. They literally have to remind Guilliman to stop micromanaging when he doesn't need to, since he can do it in the back of his head multitasking doing anything, and he also is so obsessed he accidentally micromanages the bureaucracy when he doesn't need to.

tfw Guilliman daydreaming about micromanaging Yvraine while Cawl is doing is bullshit

No, I was an adult already when Matt Ward started working at GW. I just found the Ultramarines rather bland back in the 90s, and liked Blood Angels or Space Wolves more because they had this vampire and werewolf thing going on and were edgier, but the Roman thing (and the blue colour) won me over later in life.

 

[Mangoose]

People object because Ultramarines are the blandest of the chapters. There are far more interesting space marines that can be used as poster boys.

I used to dislike Ultramarines when I was a teenager, but nowadays they're my favourite chapter alongside, what's not to like with the Roman theme they have going on?

It's because when you were a teenager, Matt Ward poisoned the Ultramarines.

Only the people who have given Dan Abnett a chance have recently seen Guilliman punch heads off Chaos Marines in the vacuum of deep space, while also given an Super-Aspergers'-like mentality and capability for micromanagement. They literally have to remind Guilliman to stop micromanaging when he doesn't need to, since he can do it in the back of his head multitasking doing anything, and he also is so obsessed he accidentally micromanages the bureaucracy when he doesn't need to.

tfw Guilliman daydreaming about micromanaging Yvraine while Cawl is doing is bullshit

No, I was an adult already when Matt Ward started working at GW. I just found the Ultramarines rather bland back in the 90s, and liked Blood Angels or Space Wolves more because they had this vampire and werewolf thing going on and were edgier, but the Roman thing (and the blue colour) won me over later in life.

Hm, well to me it seemed like this Roman characteristic wasn't really emphasized by writers until recently. (And the same goes towards any type of complexity in terms of Guilliman's personality)

I mean, even if you were there before Matt Ward.. clearly Matt Ward emphasized other things and ignored the Roman stuff.

It's more about execution and implementation, in a way. The quality of writing matters more than what is written about.

 

[Mangoose]

Follow-up question, what is your favourite army overall? I think most people have mentioned theirs across in the thread, but it might be cool to see.

10th Company, Night Lords.

^The above^ + Kharn + Argel Tal + Erebus are the reasons I tolerate ADB despite his other crap. (Yeah I read Helsreach but when I re-read it last year I kinda got bored and didn't really feel much interest in Grimaldus' personality that time around.)

 

[Parsimonious cook]

Follow-up question, what is your favourite army overall? I think most people have mentioned theirs across in the thread, but it might be cool to see.

For me it's either Orks or Necrons. And if we were doing favourite units, probably the humble Necron Warrior.

For me its Imperial Guard/Astra Militarum. I simply love the idea of a scared motherfucker who keeps encountering all the devils from other dimensions/gene-engineered monsters/incomprehensible aliens and solves the problem by shooting them in the face with a melta gun before calling in an artilery barage. Favourite unit would be the old school stormtroopers, I really like the look.

Unfortunately these clasic models are extremely hard to get nowadays. I had a squad, which I tragically lost a few years back and I am still salty about it. I am OK with the Kasrkin but the new Scions arent really doing it for me tbh fam.

I like Orks as well, they are fun and a natural match up against the IG. I like their Kommandos the most, like these kunning but brutal sneaky gitz I am currently working on.

 

[lightbane]

Pariah Nexus

There's a sequel, the Tithes miniseries.

Guilliman daydreaming about micromanaging Yvraine while Cawl is doing is bullshit

A Paradox player then.
I like the Exorcists army, extremely underrated, which is a shame as they're full of potential. I like green so Dark Angels are cool, although they overfocus on chasing heretics.
Lamenters are my second favorite, funny colors and permanent underdogs.

 

[Louis_Cypher]

Follow-up question, what is your favourite army overall? I think most people have mentioned theirs across in the thread, but it might be cool to see.

For me it's either Orks or Necrons. And if we were doing favourite units, probably the humble Necron Warrior.

For me its Imperial Guard/Astra Militarum. I simply love the idea of a scared motherfucker who keeps encountering all the devils from other dimensions/gene-engineered monsters/incomprehensible aliens and solves the problem by shooting them in the face with a melta gun before calling in an artilery barage. Favourite unit would be the old school stormtroopers, I really like the look.

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Unfortunately these clasic models are extremely hard to get nowadays. I had a squad, which I tragically lost a few years back and I am still salty about it. I am OK with the Kasrkin but the new Scions arent really doing it for me tbh fam.

I'm sorry to hear about losing those miniatures. Something so personal that we have painted ourselves and cared for is always a bad hit when it gets damaged, stolen or lost. Although they are not the same, may I suggest that these "Eisenkern Stormtroopers" by Wargames Atlantic are quite good looking (I was thinking of buying some just as generic soldiers one day), so you might be able to paint their masks the same way you did on the old models:

 

[Big_poppa_pump]

Follow-up question, what is your favourite army overall? I think most people have mentioned theirs across in the thread, but it might be cool to see.

For me it's either Orks or Necrons. And if we were doing favourite units, probably the humble Necron Warrior.

For me its Imperial Guard/Astra Militarum. I simply love the idea of a scared motherfucker who keeps encountering all the devils from other dimensions/gene-engineered monsters/incomprehensible aliens and solves the problem by shooting them in the face with a melta gun before calling in an artilery barage. Favourite unit would be the old school stormtroopers, I really like the look.

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Unfortunately these clasic models are extremely hard to get nowadays. I had a squad, which I tragically lost a few years back and I am still salty about it. I am OK with the Kasrkin but the new Scions arent really doing it for me tbh fam.

I'm sorry to hear about losing those miniatures. Something so personal that we have painted ourselves and cared for is always a bad hit when it gets damaged, stolen or lost. Although they are not the same, may I suggest that these "Eisenkern Stormtroopers" by Wargames Atlantic are quite good looking (I was thinking of buying some just as generic soldiers one day), so you might be able to paint their masks the same way you did on the old models:

These look like the oddest mix of Jin Roh Panzer Cops and T54 Power armor from Fallout

 

[Big_poppa_pump]

The Christmas boxset has gotten me to consider doing Deathwing Dark angels, I was able to go to a random hole in the wall gamestore and found a Deathwing Assault box that combined with the upcoming christmas box will net me a 2000 point army on the nose. I have this love hate relationship with the Dark Angels I love original Deathwing lore where they are typically Knights of the Round table english knights that for some odd reason recruited a bunch of Native Americans(this lore is still valid as even in the 10th DA codex the Plains World is still mentioned and the primaris deathwing stuff still has feathers and other trinkets)

 

[Storyfag]

Follow-up question, what is your favourite army overall? I think most people have mentioned theirs across in the thread, but it might be cool to see.

For me it's either Orks or Necrons. And if we were doing favourite units, probably the humble Necron Warrior.

Steel Legion Imperial Guard.

 

[Louis_Cypher]

Follow-up question, what is your favourite army overall? I think most people have mentioned theirs across in the thread, but it might be cool to see.

For me it's either Orks or Necrons. And if we were doing favourite units, probably the humble Necron Warrior.

Steel Legion Imperial Guard.

Armageddon. That is tasteful and prestigious. You absolute chad. That planet is the incarnation of Second Edition. I think I would probably choose them or Catachan if I went guardsman. Or make a new regiment using Wargames Atlantic proxies, as I'm unlikley to take them into an official store.

 

[Akratus II]

BTW, I dunno if this has been asked way back, but to all the thread's bros:

Q: What is your favourite Space Marine chapter personally, or if you have miniature, what Space Marine chapter do you play?

(Maybe the two are different?)

I'm not as big of a fan of space marines as I used to be but it's hard to pick just one. Blood Angels are great, though I prefer the Flesh Tearer color scheme. I also really like the Mortifactors for some reason who are Ultramarines successors who eat and drink the flesh and blood of their enemies. I like em edgy.

Speaking of which, my favorite army is the Dark Eldar. I was drawn in by their insanely good miniature range and also really appreciate their underutilized lore.

 

[Akratus II]

Holy shit I just watched the Tithes show on wh+. I thought the first two episodes were bad but then comes episode 3 to take the retard crown. It's about a squad of Kasrkin and a Commissar coming down onto a planet's hive city which is fighting Orks. As the show's name suggests there's a tithe involved. The hive's ammo. They take down three transports, and they're immediately fighting Ork planes. They barely make it. The landing pad is situated right against the outer wall, so completely exposed. Of course it's blown up. The whole time this is happening there's no real military structure. The girlboss leading the Kasrkin is angry and snarky about everything. Even mouthing off to the Commissar. And the flipping commissar wants to STAY for some reason, because he feels bad about killing 50 soldiers who he even calls loyal? It's all very muh evil imperium. Honestly I'm almost getting a headache writing this. When the Orks blow up a transport and fight them I'm baffled as to what kind of tension or excitement the fighting should get out of us when they just spent the episode showing us our 'heroes' being incompetent, retarded, part of a retarded evil empire and sent on one of the stupidest missions I've ever heard of? Honestly this feels like some kind of dreamt up monkey's paw situation where we are finally getting the 40k content we've always wanted but it's based on modern lore and written by fuckheads. I get that they're trying to make it Grimdark with a dark and ironic ending but there's a difference between grimdark and retardation.

 

[Big_poppa_pump]

Holy shit I just watched the Tithes show on wh+. I thought the first two episodes were bad but then comes episode 3 to take the retard crown. It's about a squad of Kasrkin and a Commissar coming down onto a planet's hive city which is fighting Orks. As the show's name suggests there's a tithe involved. The hive's ammo. They take down three transports, and they're immediately fighting Ork planes. They barely make it. The landing pad is situated right against the outer wall, so completely exposed. Of course it's blown up. The whole time this is happening there's no real military structure. The girlboss leading the Kasrkin is angry and snarky about everything. Even mouthing off to the Commissar. And the flipping commissar wants to STAY for some reason, because he feels bad about killing 50 soldiers who he even calls loyal? It's all very muh evil imperium. Honestly I'm almost getting a headache writing this. When the Orks blow up a transport and fight them I'm baffled as to what kind of tension or excitement the fighting should get out of us when they just spent the episode showing us our 'heroes' being incompetent, retarded, part of a retarded evil empire and sent on one of the stupidest missions I've ever heard of? Honestly this feels like some kind of dreamt up monkey's paw situation where we are finally getting the 40k content we've always wanted but it's based on modern lore and written by fuckheads. I get that they're trying to make it Grimdark with a dark and ironic ending but there's a difference between grimdark and retardation.

You have to face it that Imperium is retarded. This is not a nu lore blah blah blah. I don’t understand how the series with a female custodes and you complain about this?

This has always happened in 40k, it’s not new writing it’s actual good writing to show how fucked the imperium is with its bureaucracy. Like how catachans have get sent to ice worlds while vahallens are sent to jungle ones.

 

[Akratus II]

I already knew everything you said and it doesn't apply here. That theme is based on the absurdity of the Imperium's size and bureacracy. This is Imperial clerks literally looking at a war and saying: Let's take their weapons away, specifically for no reason at all in a way that makes me suspect the writers feel very subconcious about accusations of glorifying fascism and are overreacting in response. And for the record I complain about femstodes also.

 

[RaggleFraggle]

Wow, that sounds awful and not entertaining. GW is handing the animation market to Infinity's Paradise Lost, and that's about space Islam!

 

[Big_poppa_pump]

Wow, that sounds awful and not entertaining. GW is handing the animation market to Infinity's Paradise Lost, and that's about space Islam!

Finally someone fucking mentions infinity here

 

[Big_poppa_pump]

I already knew everything you said and it doesn't apply here. That theme is based on the absurdity of the Imperium's size and bureacracy. This is Imperial clerks literally looking at a war and saying: Let's take their weapons away, specifically for no reason at all in a way that makes me suspect the writers feel very subconcious about accusations of glorifying fascism and are overreacting in response. And for the record I complain about femstodes also.

Your looking to deep into it like a leftist would agasint 40k, or do you want to complain about old lore about how reloading battleship guns would result in the death of 100s of slaves in the ships is that nu LGBTBBQ lore to you? Is all the moments when the imperium is showed as incompetent meant to own the chuds to you? Surely, the fuck up of the Damocles Crusade means it was becasue of the tranny writers right?

 

[Louis_Cypher]

Some of that Warhammer+ content is very present day, although a normie might think it's dark and edgy. Military sci-fi used to try to be procedural. Have structure, purpose, heirarchy and correct terminology. Just like you actually need to fight a war; discipline, common cause and organisation.

where we are finally getting the 40k content we've always wanted but it's based on modern lore

Well, at least you arn't a Trekkie, you can't conceieve the pain of having about 4 Star Trek shows running at once, and all of them being pozzed beyond all human comprehension.

 

[Keshik]

BTW, I dunno if this has been asked way back, but to all the thread's bros:

Q: What is your favourite Space Marine chapter personally, or if you have miniature, what Space Marine chapter do you play?

(Maybe the two are different?)

I like the Dark Angels, rampant secrecy to the point of paranoia, the knightly aesthetic. Salamanders come close from the lore of them being as noble as an SM can be usually, stuff like their keeping in touch with their families and living among their people