Incline Warhammer 40,000 Lore Thread

[Mangoose]

Well there's that, but in universe it still doesn't make sense.
Space Marines in game are the most common faction, but in universe there's very few of them and they are supposed to be incredibly rare and precious, but since GW wants to keep selling marines they get put everywhere and are displayed in huge land battles that per their own fluff would them all killed.
Modern 40k fluff isn't great. It wasn't flawless, but ever since 5th ed it's just been getting worse and it doesn't help that GW is trying to sanitize the setting, turning their grimdark universe into yet another marvel wannabe with bright colours and silly model designs.
And it was all because of fucking Ward and his Ultramarine and Grey Knight fetish.

Yeah.

Honestly, Black Library should be considered almost a separate element from the rest of Games Workshop.

I mean, they're even different in terms of lore, as you know the codices provide lore too... and Matt Ward wrote that game-side lore.

Well that and the $$$.. and they don't really care to make the main 40k game as a real thinking strategy game (intentionally so, too, as usually the ppl playing 40k at gaming shops are LARPing like crazy).

It's the off-shoots like Kill Team and Blood Bowl and.. even Warhammer Fantasy.. that focus on the gameplay. (In fact my favorite wargame I've played is Infinity)

Fake-edit: Oh I also forgot about video games, where there is a decent number of good 40k adaptations that don't just try to follow 40k mechanics too too much. I mean, the main reason 40k got popular was Dawn of War.

Real-edit: I actually got interested in 40k around 5th edition. So, yes, I know so much about the Ward effect. Which is why it's so surprising Guilliman is good now. I mean, even though partly it's because of Dan Abnett's "No Know Fear" but I didn't expect anyone to be able to conquer what Ward did to the smurfs.

 

[Big_poppa_pump]

Well there's that, but in universe it still doesn't make sense.
Space Marines in game are the most common faction, but in universe there's very few of them and they are supposed to be incredibly rare and precious, but since GW wants to keep selling marines they get put everywhere and are displayed in huge land battles that per their own fluff would them all killed.
Modern 40k fluff isn't great. It wasn't flawless, but ever since 5th ed it's just been getting worse and it doesn't help that GW is trying to sanitize the setting, turning their grimdark universe into yet another marvel wannabe with bright colours and silly model designs.
And it was all because of fucking Ward and his Ultramarine and Grey Knight fetish.

Yeah.

Honestly, Black Library should be considered almost a separate element from the rest of Games Workshop.

I mean, they're even different in terms of lore, as you know the codices provide lore too... and Matt Ward wrote that game-side lore.

Well that and the $$$.. and they don't really care to make the main 40k game as a real thinking strategy game (intentionally so, too, as usually the ppl playing 40k at gaming shops are LARPing like crazy).

It's the off-shoots like Kill Team and Blood Bowl and.. even Warhammer Fantasy.. that focus on the gameplay. (In fact my favorite wargame I've played is Infinity)

Fake-edit: Oh I also forgot about video games, where there is a decent number of good 40k adaptations that don't just try to follow 40k mechanics too too much. I mean, the main reason 40k got popular was Dawn of War.

Real-edit: I actually got interested in 40k around 5th edition. So, yes, I know so much about the Ward effect. Which is why it's so surprising Guilliman is good now. I mean, even though partly it's because of Dan Abnett's "No Know Fear" but I didn't expect anyone to be able to conquer what Ward did to the smurfs.

BL technically is separate always has been its just in the more recent years they are seen as a bigger deal due to being the only source of constant lore we get.

 

[Mangoose]

Well there's that, but in universe it still doesn't make sense.
Space Marines in game are the most common faction, but in universe there's very few of them and they are supposed to be incredibly rare and precious, but since GW wants to keep selling marines they get put everywhere and are displayed in huge land battles that per their own fluff would them all killed.
Modern 40k fluff isn't great. It wasn't flawless, but ever since 5th ed it's just been getting worse and it doesn't help that GW is trying to sanitize the setting, turning their grimdark universe into yet another marvel wannabe with bright colours and silly model designs.
And it was all because of fucking Ward and his Ultramarine and Grey Knight fetish.

Yeah.

Honestly, Black Library should be considered almost a separate element from the rest of Games Workshop.

I mean, they're even different in terms of lore, as you know the codices provide lore too... and Matt Ward wrote that game-side lore.

Well that and the $$$.. and they don't really care to make the main 40k game as a real thinking strategy game (intentionally so, too, as usually the ppl playing 40k at gaming shops are LARPing like crazy).

It's the off-shoots like Kill Team and Blood Bowl and.. even Warhammer Fantasy.. that focus on the gameplay. (In fact my favorite wargame I've played is Infinity)

Fake-edit: Oh I also forgot about video games, where there is a decent number of good 40k adaptations that don't just try to follow 40k mechanics too too much. I mean, the main reason 40k got popular was Dawn of War.

Real-edit: I actually got interested in 40k around 5th edition. So, yes, I know so much about the Ward effect. Which is why it's so surprising Guilliman is good now. I mean, even though partly it's because of Dan Abnett's "No Know Fear" but I didn't expect anyone to be able to conquer what Ward did to the smurfs.

BL technically is separate always has been its just in the more recent years they are seen as a bigger deal due to being the only source of constant lore we get.

White Dwarf is also pretty cool.

Note btw that Dan Abnett is first and foremost 40k author only.

He started out writing Dredd for 2000AD in the 80s. (In fact, you may say he was the Alan Moore crew except he didn't come with them to "invade" American comics)

But... Abnett is also responsible for Guardians of the Galaxy. The characters have pretty close personalities, besides different origin story for

In fact.. it's more than just GotG. GotG was actually part of a whole arc that Abnett and Andy Lanning - the Annihlation to Thanos Imperative arc. And Thanos Imperative is one of my classics. (Abnett and Lanning are the guys that write the Malus Darkblade books, and also Andy Lanning did the art for Abnett's Space Wolf comic. They're essentially a writer/artist pair.).

 

[deus101]

Awsome! A place I can sperg about Ethereals and the Tau'va! Get ready I have a lot of headcannon and an awsome book just released that in my mind proves im right!

 

[Big_poppa_pump]

Awsome! A place I can sperg about Ethereals and the Tau'va! Get ready I have a lot of headcannon and an awsome book just released that in my mind proves im right!

The Tau’va is the goddess that only exists from belief of the more warp touched races right?

 

[Mangoose]

So I've modded Space Marine 2 so all the loyalists are Chaos. And I ain't even done yet

Finished that one.

BTW I had to run through the campaign twice to test because every single spawn I had to make sure didn't crash the game. Especially in cinematics.
BUT ACTUALLY the most I focus on is AI. I don't change special abilities or even buff much... I just give them more choices available at any time, so a lot less pausing, and some other things:

 

[revealer]

Dunno if it was posted, but I like this serial from Templin Institute
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL4YabFfWSaenSUBJvy5-6I0pipQNhmY9b

Example

 

[Rahdulan]

Those guys really fell off after losing the female narrator.

 

[Tyranicon]

So against my better judgement I started reading Master of Mankind because I was curious.

Once again I'm let down by the characterization. It's just so unsatisfying to read through the pov of a custodian/fabricator general/god emperor and find that their innermost thoughts are utterly human, to the point where any teenager can readily identify with them.

I would actually go so far to say a lot of the characters behave like teenagers themselves.

Sadge.

 

[Big_poppa_pump]

So against my better judgement I started reading Master of Mankind because I was curious.

Once again I'm let down by the characterization. It's just so unsatisfying to read through the pov of a custodian/fabricator general/god emperor and find that their innermost thoughts are utterly human, to the point where any teenager can readily identify with them.

I would actually go so far to say a lot of the characters behave like teenagers themselves.

Sadge.

Just read all the white scar heresy books or anything chris wraight writes

 

[Fedora Master]

Just read the Infinite and the Divine
Who knew Nu-Crons could produce something good