Warhammer Warhammer 40,000: Rogue Trader Pre-Release Thread [GAME RELEASED, GO TO NEW THREAD]

[InD_ImaginE]

I wonder if they've decided to push forward the full release to avoid the brunt of the new Unity fees coming in 2024?

the unity thing is retroactive

unity always had an install tracker even before 2024, that's how they gonna determine the "install number"

 

[volklore]

I wonder if they've decided to push forward the full release to avoid the brunt of the new Unity fees coming in 2024?

the unity thing is retroactive

unity always had an install tracker even before 2024, that's how they gonna determine the "install number"

How so ? They going to make devs pay for every unity game install they ever had ?

 

[Tyranicon]

Wow, I'm shocked. Seems very risky to release in such a packed year.

Most of the major RPG releases competing with this have already dropped and will probably be less of a factor around Holiday time. We still have indies like Colony Ship and Skald (if Skald actually releases), etc but I wouldn't think Owlcat considers those big enough competitors to schedule around.

 

[InD_ImaginE]

I wonder if they've decided to push forward the full release to avoid the brunt of the new Unity fees coming in 2024?

the unity thing is retroactive

unity always had an install tracker even before 2024, that's how they gonna determine the "install number"

How so ? They going to make devs pay for every unity game install they ever had ?

devs who need to pay are those with 200k installs and iirc 200k USD annual revenue. I am not sure of the number is per dev or per game basis

but yeah after that they gonna pay

indie devs with shit cashflow who happens to pass those number are royally fucked as their cash probably go directly to the next development

The CEO (ex EA, figures) is a fucking moron. Unity is precisely popular with with small to mid sized dev. The fact that fucking Unreal has a more business friendly model and better genral quality engine will just fuck Unity target market, the only advantage it has left being simpler and easier to learn

 

[volklore]

I wonder if they've decided to push forward the full release to avoid the brunt of the new Unity fees coming in 2024?

the unity thing is retroactive

unity always had an install tracker even before 2024, that's how they gonna determine the "install number"

How so ? They going to make devs pay for every unity game install they ever had ?

devs who need to pay are those with 200k installs and iirc 200k USD annual revenue. I am not sure of the number is per dev or per game basis

but yeah after that they gonna pay

indie devs with shit cashflow who happens to pass those number are royally fucked as their cash probably go directly to the next development

The CEO (ex EA, figures) is a fucking moron. Unity is precisely popular with with small to mid sized dev. The fact that fucking Unreal has a more business friendly model and better genral quality engine will just fuck Unity target market, the only advantage it has left being simpler and easier to learn

Yeah but the fees only apply to installs after the new policy comes into play. So it makes sense for Owlcat to at least get the initial brunt of the release installs for ''free''. I guess on the long run it doesn't change much but on short term finance it might make sense.

 

[InD_ImaginE]

I wonder if they've decided to push forward the full release to avoid the brunt of the new Unity fees coming in 2024?

the unity thing is retroactive

unity always had an install tracker even before 2024, that's how they gonna determine the "install number"

How so ? They going to make devs pay for every unity game install they ever had ?

devs who need to pay are those with 200k installs and iirc 200k USD annual revenue. I am not sure of the number is per dev or per game basis

but yeah after that they gonna pay

indie devs with shit cashflow who happens to pass those number are royally fucked as their cash probably go directly to the next development

The CEO (ex EA, figures) is a fucking moron. Unity is precisely popular with with small to mid sized dev. The fact that fucking Unreal has a more business friendly model and better genral quality engine will just fuck Unity target market, the only advantage it has left being simpler and easier to learn

Yeah but the fees only apply to installs after the new policy comes into play. So it makes sense for Owlcat to at least get the initial brunt of the release installs for ''free''. I guess on the long run it doesn't change much but on short term finance it might make sense.

I got different impression from my reading this morning. But there has been several updates to the articles talking about this as well

 

[Jaedar]

December 7th

I like how the narrator goes full chaos temptor by the end.

This seems like a pretty aggressive release plan by owlcat though, and I remember wotr just barely being possible to finish the first few months (iirc I had to hack my save file twice). So I'm not sure I'll D1P this, especially since patches will be delayed due to christmas.

 

[Jaesun]

I fear because of the completely ridiculous Unity garbage this is getting rushed to release. I'll just sit here and wait and see what others have to say when it releases...

 

[sebas]

We all know the first year of release is the real BETA.

 

[Modron]

We all know the first year after the second* season pass is the real BETA. *adjust for current year

 

[Storyfag]

December 7th

Well. I appreciate the Exterminatus being added.

 

[Terra]

Perfect timing for my Xmas break, but I hope the latter half of the game won't end up like Kingmaker's did near launch. Wondering how performance will be overall too, Wrath's Alushinyrra and a few other points of that game were far more cpu intensive than I'd have liked, want to squeeze out a bit more life from my aging 2700x before it gets retired though.

 

[processdaemon]

I am 100% sure it's going to be a buggy mess at launch but I'm also far too excited and impatient to wait so I will be there on day 1 running into the brick wall of gamebreaking bugs again and again.

 

[santino27]

Owlcat_Eyler, can you speak at all to what's been added (path and content-wise) since the beta? Judging by WotR's development, I assume you've all been implementing a lot of stuff that never made it into the beta.

 

[The_Mask]

Owlcat can't catch a break. First woke Paizo. Then Unity Jewish tricks.

Life is rough for Russians Cypriots trying to make videogames.

 

[frajaq]

 

[Owlcat_Eyler]

Owlcat_Eyler, can you speak at all to what's been added (path and content-wise) since the beta? Judging by WotR's development, I assume you've all been implementing a lot of stuff that never made it into the beta.

New doctrines(and reworking the old ones), more content chapters, companions quests and relationships, everything that was missing in a character generation, the conviction system was not ready in the beta, so the conviction system with all the consequences and different story outcomes, space battle was also not final in the beta. That's all that comes to mind right now, I could forget something.
Also, we got feedback in the survey that the game lacks tutorials, so they've also been added.

 

[The_Mask]

Also, we got feedback in the survey that the game lacks tutorials, so they've also been added.

Yeah, personally this is my first contact with anything Warhammer related, so: 1. good manual OR 2. half-decent tutorial - would be extremely nice.

 

[lycanwarrior]

Wow, I'm shocked. Seems very risky to release in such a packed year.

Yeah I was hoping for early 2042 for my own purely selfish reasons.

Albeit December 2023 isn't too bad of a release window I suppose as it gives it a wide-enough berth from BG3/Starfield.

This year's release schedule really does seem like a massive consequence of all the stupid COVID shutdowns over the past few years.

 

[The_Mask]

 

[mediocrepoet]

I am 100% sure it's going to be a buggy mess at launch but I'm also far too excited and impatient to wait so I will be there on day 1 running into the brick wall of gamebreaking bugs again and again.

I did that with both Pathfinders and paid a premium for the privilege. I think I'll let you guys jump on this grenade and check it out in early 2025 or so.

 

[yes plz]

shitty final act confirmed

again, for the third time straight

 

[Tyranicon]

I am 100% sure it's going to be a buggy mess at launch but I'm also far too excited and impatient to wait so I will be there on day 1 running into the brick wall of gamebreaking bugs again and again.

I did that with both Pathfinders and paid a premium for the privilege. I think I'll let you guys jump on this grenade and check it out in early 2025 or so.

A lot of us already did that with the beta. In my experience it has been way less buggy than the Pathfinder games, perhaps because of the less complex (?) build system.

Maybe Owlcat is improving. But there are still hilarious bugs like characters talking in Russian during cutscenes.

 

[mediocrepoet]

I am 100% sure it's going to be a buggy mess at launch but I'm also far too excited and impatient to wait so I will be there on day 1 running into the brick wall of gamebreaking bugs again and again.

I did that with both Pathfinders and paid a premium for the privilege. I think I'll let you guys jump on this grenade and check it out in early 2025 or so.

A lot of us already did that with the beta. In my experience it has been way less buggy than the Pathfinder games, perhaps because of the less complex (?) build system.

Probably. I mean, Pathfinder not only has a fuckton of classes that they tried to implement, but also so many weird edge case abilities and rule exceptions that trying to design a coherent CRPG out of it seems miserable unless you want to start streamlining things.

I hope this next game is cool. I really like the Pathfinder ones, just don't mind waiting on 40k, especially since most Warhammer video games are ass or mediocre at best.

 

[Cyberarmy]

Well, it can't be as bad as Kingmaker's release, right?...

I had 6 Amiri sitting on my party selection back then.