Warhammer Warhammer 40,000: Rogue Trader Pre-Release Thread [GAME RELEASED, GO TO NEW THREAD]

[Yosharian]

And you're surprised by this?

 

[Incendax]

You don't do that on ironman.

The very act of playing ironman means you want to experience as much misery as possible. :D

 

[Riddler]

The review says, "In the Pathfinder games, which had D&D's alignment system, Owlcat tended to interpret Lawful alignments in a "we should kill goblin babies because they'll probably grow up evil" kind of way, which made playing a paladin a jarring experience."

Isn't that quite literally the way it's meant to be interpreted?

That's textbook example of a Lawful Evil character.

Nah, the lawful evil character would sell them into slavery.

 

[ArchAngel]

The review says, "In the Pathfinder games, which had D&D's alignment system, Owlcat tended to interpret Lawful alignments in a "we should kill goblin babies because they'll probably grow up evil" kind of way, which made playing a paladin a jarring experience."

Isn't that quite literally the way it's meant to be interpreted?

That's textbook example of a Lawful Evil character.

Nah, the lawful evil character would sell them into slavery.

Nah, that would be Neutral Evil unless it was that character personal code to enslave as many people as he can.

 

[InD_ImaginE]

the fuck is this average enemy info in this chapter nonsense
hope you can remove it

Rather than this they really just need to put the damn formula somewhere in the game

It is kinda unintuitive that you say "Armour 25%" but akhsually it just reduces damage by average of -20% this chapter!"

 

[Vasya]

the fuck is this average enemy info in this chapter nonsense
hope you can remove it

Rather than this they really just need to put the damn formula somewhere in the game

It is kinda unintuitive that you say "Armour 25%" but akhsually it just reduces damage by average of -20% this chapter!"

Formula is in the logs. It's just armor - armor pen. Meaning average chapter 1 enemy has weapon with 5% armor penetration.

 

[Swen]

They gave Rogue Trader 59/100. Meanwhile:

What a fucking joke that website is.

It's not just PC gamer, Rogue trader doesn't even hit 80 on metacritic. Pathetic

It's just another failed spreadsheet simulator from Owlcuck games.

 

[Grunker]

For Kingmaker on the other hand it was not possible to play slower to miss bugs unless it took you 6 months for a single run..

For Kingmaker it was the opposite, playing fast you avoided the bugs they added with each patch.

lol, too true

 

[Cryomancer]

metacritic(...)spreadsheet simulator

I thrust more a review score by that Pigeon than ALL game journos combined. Seriously, if you wanna review any product, the BARE MINIMUM that a reviewer needs is understand the target audience of the product. Game journos can't understand that the target audience of some companies is not the 13 yo tiktoker in San Francisco. The target audience of Owlcat are the "grognards". Could you imagine a food critic giving negative score for a Japanese restaurant because he expected Mc Donalds? Or a movie critic giving negative review to a "cult" movie because he was expecting transformers?

Is not RPG codex who don't take game journos seriously. IDK anyone who takes them seriously.

 

[Junmarko]

It's not just PC gamer, Rogue trader doesn't even hit 80 on metacritic. Pathetic

Oh no. There's no way we can ever play it now. Pronoun Gamer and all 7 reviews on Derpcritic tally at under 80%.

 

[kangaxx]

Fuck it, I'm thinking I'll give it a go this evening. I haven't touched anything 40k related for 30 years, but from my distant memories of TT at school it could translate really well to this kind of game.

 

[ferratilis]

It's just another failed spreadsheet simulator from Owlcuck games.

I used to like you because you brought some lightheartedness to an otherwise toxic forum. But over time, you got more annoying than even the worst Codex autists.

 

[Fedora Master]

It's just another failed spreadsheet simulator from Owlcuck games.

I used to like you because you brought some lightheartedness to an otherwise toxic forum. But over time, you got more annoying than even the worst Codex autists.

Something something staring into the abyss

 

[ArchAngel]

I've watched a bit of streams playing this yesterday. I noticed in combat limbs fall off and death animations are gory and cool. Reminds me of Fallout1/2 a bit and I like it.

 

[Zboj Lamignat]

Normally I'd say that this will be worth playing in a year or two, but looking at Wrath's trajectory I have some very serious doubts and what they did with "EE" on that one really killed my enthusiasm for them as a dev.

Same with dlc. Varnhold's lot, at least, was a good to great mini campaign. All the Wrath dlc are extremely meh to say the least.

 

[Storyfag]

It's just another failed spreadsheet simulator from Owlcuck games.

I used to like you because you brought some lightheartedness to an otherwise toxic forum. But over time, you got more annoying than even the worst Codex autists.

Something something staring into the abyss

something something winked back.

 

[Spectacle]

It's just another failed spreadsheet simulator from Owlcuck games.

I used to like you because you brought some lightheartedness to an otherwise toxic forum. But over time, you got more annoying than even the worst Codex autists.

Something something staring into the abyss

something something winked back.

 

[Swen]

It's just another failed spreadsheet simulator from Owlcuck games.

I used to like you because you brought some lightheartedness to an otherwise toxic forum. But over time, you got more annoying than even the worst Codex autists.

That's the nicest compliment I got on this forum, thank you.

 

[Raghar]

The positive stuff about this is it graphic improved over Kingmaker. The negative is writing is bit average, and story might be average yet again.
Bug observed on streamers... camera doing weird stuff.

 

[ArchAngel]

Normally I'd say that this will be worth playing in a year or two, but looking at Wrath's trajectory I have some very serious doubts and what they did with "EE" on that one really killed my enthusiasm for them as a dev.

Same with dlc. Varnhold's lot, at least, was a good to great mini campaign. All the Wrath dlc are extremely meh to say the least.

Wrath was playable fast after release. Did they fix all the smaller bugs? No but there were plenty of classes that were fun and you could finish the game with them.

I do not expect a bug free experience as this is Owlcat we are talking about but I am willing to suffer a bit for the cRPG goodness they give us.

 

[Shaki]

They gave Rogue Trader 59/100. Meanwhile:

What a fucking joke that website is.

It's not just PC gamer, Rogue trader doesn't even hit 80 on metacritic. Pathetic

It's just another failed spreadsheet simulator from Owlcuck games.

I like how modern game journos don't even try to pretend anymore, they'll straight up tell you they didn't like they game because it was mechanically deep instead of "use haste and rightclick the enemy"...

Game journo difficulty setting, went from a meme to an actual serious requirement if you want to get good scores.

 

[ArchAngel]

They gave Rogue Trader 59/100. Meanwhile:

What a fucking joke that website is.

It's not just PC gamer, Rogue trader doesn't even hit 80 on metacritic. Pathetic

It's just another failed spreadsheet simulator from Owlcuck games.

I like how modern game journos don't even try to pretend anymore, they'll straight up tell you they didn't like they game because it was mechanically deep instead of "use haste and rightclick the enemy"...

Game journo difficulty setting, went from a meme to an actual serious requirement if you want to get good scores.

I think people's brains have just rotten away due to vaccines and bad food. I got a friend that does not like to try new games because he does not feel like needing to learn new systems. Then I asked him what is this complicated new game he does not want to start.
He says .. Starfield

 

[Storyfag]

I think people's brains have just rotten away due to vaccines and bad food.

Due to the rush of our society in general. The problem is much more psychological than biological.

 

[Zboj Lamignat]

Wrath was playable fast after release. Did they fix all the smaller bugs? No but there were plenty of classes that were fun and you could finish the game with them.

I do not expect a bug free experience as this is Owlcat we are talking about but I am willing to suffer a bit for the cRPG goodness they give us.

The post-launch support that Wrath received is a flaming trainwreck where it's not even possible to find a correct and updated list of all the class features and other things that either flat out don't work or are bugged, often in a particularly "hilarious" manner. When you plan a playthrough and your build, which is like THE thing to get excited about in this game, you have zero certainty that a feature you want to build around won't spaz out on you. The worst thing about this is that they've shown little to no interest in actually owning up to that and properly fixing stuff. Instead they often break more things, re-bug previously fixed stuff and have whipped up an "EE" where photo mode and other inane shit were the main "features" and then they had the gal to comment that actually improving the game would be nice, but there was no budget for it.

 

[Swen]

They gave Rogue Trader 59/100. Meanwhile:

What a fucking joke that website is.

It's not just PC gamer, Rogue trader doesn't even hit 80 on metacritic. Pathetic

It's just another failed spreadsheet simulator from Owlcuck games.

I like how modern game journos don't even try to pretend anymore, they'll straight up tell you they didn't like they game because it was mechanically deep instead of "use haste and rightclick the enemy"...

Game journo difficulty setting, went from a meme to an actual serious requirement if you want to get good scores.

"mechanical depth" doesn't automatically make something good.

Like I said it's a spreadsheet simulator made for autists.

It's sad though, I though Owlcat could finally bring some competition but it seems Larian will dominate alone.