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Warhammer Warhammer 40,000: Rogue Trader Pre-Release Thread [GAME RELEASED, GO TO NEW THREAD]

ArchAngel

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"mechanical depth" doesn't automatically make something good.

What makes? Illithid motion captured sex scenes?

spreadsheet simulator made for autists.

Every product has its target audience.

Larian target audience = journos with pigeon- tier cognition.
Literally 400k+ user reviews on steam with 98% positive reviews. BG3 is made for gamers not autists.

Seems Larian will be dominating the RPG space from now on, "muh in depth mechanics" LOL!

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Congrats! You have taken the throne from such classic and well respected RPGs like Skyrim, Oblivion or Mass Effect Andromeda.
 

Vasya

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What artificial barriers are you talking about? Those tips are just telling you how good this armor will be against average enemies of current chapter. There is no weird scaling or anything like that.
Is that guaranteed? Because level based scaling crap is usually what this means in plenty of other games.
They are just trying to solve the "too many numbers and formulas" problem by giving some approximations.
 

Swen

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"mechanical depth" doesn't automatically make something good.

What makes? Illithid motion captured sex scenes?

spreadsheet simulator made for autists.

Every product has its target audience.

Larian target audience = journos with pigeon- tier cognition.
Literally 400k+ user reviews on steam with 98% positive reviews. BG3 is made for gamers not autists.

Seems Larian will be dominating the RPG space from now on, "muh in depth mechanics" LOL!

afbeelding.png
Congrats! You have taken the throne from such classic and well respected RPGs like Skyrim, Oblivion or Mass Effect Andromeda.
Damn so you're telling me Rogue trader and Owlcuck games are so bad they can't even win from Mass Effect Andromeda? Grim
 

Lemming42

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Hi thread. I hated both Pathfinder games, partly because of RTWP, partly because I found the writing to be very wordy, overly-verbose and dull.

Is this worth playing for someone who had those complaints about previous Owlcat games? Is the turn-based in this better than WOTR's shitty hack-job attempt?
 

luj1

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Pathfinder games didn't suck because of RtWP. They sucked because of intrusive minigames and system bloat.

TB cannot fix games such as Pathfinders and Pillars, because they are fundamentally poorly designed.
 

Lemming42

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I'll play any old shit if it's turn-based, honestly I could have tolerated the boring nature of the rest of the PF games if they'd had solid turn-based combat. RTWP is what killed it for me, there's just no point persisting in those games when the combat is doing nothing for me.
 

Shaki

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Pathfinder games didn't suck because of RtWP. They sucked because of intrusive minigames and system bloat.

TB cannot fix games such as Pathfinders and Pillars, because they are fundamentally poorly designed.
Idk, I hated RtWP pillars, but actually had some fun with it in TB. As long as you ignore all the writing, it's a decent exploration/combat game. RtWP was complete dogshit because you basically only stacked action speed then rightclicked on enemies and the game played itself, but TB opened shitload of viable character builds, and actually requires you to play the game. It gets boring in later stages, because of retarded HP bloat which is a consequence of the game being originally RtWP, but still TB did actually fix a lot of issues I've had with the game and made it playable.
 

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Pathfinder games didn't suck because of RtWP. They sucked because of intrusive minigames and system bloat.

TB cannot fix games such as Pathfinders and Pillars, because they are fundamentally poorly designed.
I was able to tolerate the minigame in PKM and even grew to think it was OK. The WOTR minigame, however, was utterly intolerable. I don't know what they were smoking when they came up with it.
 

ArchAngel

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Pathfinder games didn't suck because of RtWP. They sucked because of intrusive minigames and system bloat.

TB cannot fix games such as Pathfinders and Pillars, because they are fundamentally poorly designed.
I was able to tolerate the minigame in PKM and even grew to think it was OK. The WOTR minigame, however, was utterly intolerable. I don't know what they were smoking when they came up with it.
WotR minigame had potential to be good if they were not to scared to make it tough and have some real effect. As it was, it was just a time waster.
in PKM if you planned well you at least got unique items for it.
 

Junmarko

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Every Swen post in this thread:

Hey guys, I know you might think you're interested in this space faring CRPG, but you're really not. In fact, look here at this review, look at this low score they gave it!

Surely you wouldn't ignore a review from a prestigious game journalist at Pronoun Gamer dot Com would you?

You would?

Haha...you're all just coping you guys hahahaha. Your tears are delicious...

Look at Derpcritic guyz! Look!

ok guys please stop talking about it now...please discuss Baldur's Gate 3...and please play that...and do not buy this game...

DONT YOU DARE BUY A GAME WITH SUCH A LOW DERPCRITIC SCORE!
 
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Swen

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Every Swen post in this thread:

Hey guys, I know you might think you're interested in this space faring CRPG, but you're really not. In fact, look here at this review, look at this low score they gave it!

Surely you wouldn't ignore a review from a prestigious game journalist at Pronoun Gamer dot Com would you?

You would?

Haha...you're all just coping you guys hahahaha. Your tears are delicious...

Look at Derpcritic guyz! Look!

ok guys please stop talking about it now...please discuss Baldur's Gate 3...and please play that...and do not buy this game...

DONT YOU DARE BUY A GAME WITH SUCH A LOW DERPCRITIC SCORE!
No please go buy your pseudo rpg spreadsheet simulator game, I want more competition. It's lonely at the top.
 

NwNgger

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the fuck is this average enemy info in this chapter nonsense
hope you can remove it
It's based on the Black Industries 40k RPG system. It was a percentile dice system that was directly based on Warhammer Fantasy Roleplaying but in spaaaaace. You roll a d100 under or matching a percentage. Which will normally be a stat such as Ballistic Skill or so on. That's what it's talking about. The virtual dice have to roll under 26% of a D100. So roll a 26 or under your agility stat most likely. The TTRPGs whilst crunchy were pretty easy to explain to a layman. Any percentile D100 based system just boils down to "Low dice roll good. Big dice roll bad" It's just not very well explained by this piece of shit game. But at least it's not THAC0 from AD&D or whatever the fuck bs GURPS would sometimes pull on you.
 

CaesarCzech

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the fuck is this average enemy info in this chapter nonsense
hope you can remove it
It's based on the Black Industries 40k RPG system. It was a percentile dice system that was directly based on Warhammer Fantasy Roleplaying but in spaaaaace. You roll a d100 under or matching a percentage. Which will normally be a stat such as Ballistic Skill or so on. That's what it's talking about. The virtual dice have to roll under 26% of a D100. So roll a 26 or under your agility stat most likely. The TTRPGs whilst crunchy were pretty easy to explain to a layman. Any percentile D100 based system just boils down to "Low dice roll good. Big dice roll bad" It's just not very well explained by this piece of shit game. But at least it's not THAC0 from AD&D or whatever the fuck bs GURPS would sometimes pull on you.

I still have nightmare from THAC0 i loved Baldurs Gate but jesus Christ, Jan was less annoying than that system.
 

CaesarCzech

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Pathfinder games didn't suck because of RtWP. They sucked because of intrusive minigames and system bloat.

TB cannot fix games such as Pathfinders and Pillars, because they are fundamentally poorly designed.
I was able to tolerate the minigame in PKM and even grew to think it was OK. The WOTR minigame, however, was utterly intolerable. I don't know what they were smoking when they came up with it.
WotR minigame had potential to be good if they were not to scared to make it tough and have some real effect. As it was, it was just a time waster.
in PKM if you planned well you at least got unique items for it.

Should have just copied Heroes III system and called it a day.
 

Desiderius

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Insert Title Here Pathfinder: Wrath
Every Swen post in this thread:

Hey guys, I know you might think you're interested in this space faring CRPG, but you're really not. In fact, look here at this review, look at this low score they gave it!

Surely you wouldn't ignore a review from a prestigious game journalist at Pronoun Gamer dot Com would you?

You would?

Haha...you're all just coping you guys hahahaha. Your tears are delicious...

Look at Derpcritic guyz! Look!

ok guys please stop talking about it now...please discuss Baldur's Gate 3...and please play that...and do not buy this game...

DONT YOU DARE BUY A GAME WITH SUCH A LOW DERPCRITIC SCORE!
No please go buy your pseudo rpg spreadsheet simulator game, I want more competition. It's lonely at the top.

We'll keep drinking that garbage. And yours.
 

ArchAngel

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Pathfinder games didn't suck because of RtWP. They sucked because of intrusive minigames and system bloat.

TB cannot fix games such as Pathfinders and Pillars, because they are fundamentally poorly designed.
I was able to tolerate the minigame in PKM and even grew to think it was OK. The WOTR minigame, however, was utterly intolerable. I don't know what they were smoking when they came up with it.
WotR minigame had potential to be good if they were not to scared to make it tough and have some real effect. As it was, it was just a time waster.
in PKM if you planned well you at least got unique items for it.

Should have just copied Heroes III system and called it a day.
They more or less did, but stopped half way and didn't bother balancing it at all
 
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Grunker

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the fuck is this average enemy info in this chapter nonsense
hope you can remove it
It's based on the Black Industries 40k RPG system. It was a percentile dice system that was directly based on Warhammer Fantasy Roleplaying but in spaaaaace. You roll a d100 under or matching a percentage. Which will normally be a stat such as Ballistic Skill or so on. That's what it's talking about. The virtual dice have to roll under 26% of a D100. So roll a 26 or under your agility stat most likely. The TTRPGs whilst crunchy were pretty easy to explain to a layman. Any percentile D100 based system just boils down to "Low dice roll good. Big dice roll bad" It's just not very well explained by this piece of shit game. But at least it's not THAC0 from AD&D or whatever the fuck bs GURPS would sometimes pull on you.

gurps is literally 3d6 you succeed if you roll below skill - modifiers lol. On every single roll no matter what, only exception is damage. How is that bs lol
 

Desiderius

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Insert Title Here Pathfinder: Wrath


Waaahhh, bad start to combat!

Use Stealth dumbass. That's what it's there for. Seriously, the people who would otherwise teach everyone else to play are just too retarded rn for RTwP.

Cool review tho. I'll play next yr.
 

ArchAngel

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Waaahhh, bad start to combat!

Use Stealth dumbass. That's what it's there for. Seriously, the people who would otherwise teach everyone else to play are just too retarded rn for RTwP.

Cool review tho. I'll play next yr.

It is still more fiddling then how it seems it works in Rogue Trader.
I did use Stealth for every encounter in that Island DLC and it was irritating.
 

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