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Warhammer Warhammer 40,000: Rogue Trader - turn-based Warhammer 40k RPG from Owlcat Games - now with Void Shadows DLC

Dishonoredbr

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I'm trying to fight Uralon on Hard and this is the first fight in the game that i legit questioning the sanity of Owlcat's design for their fights.

Both starting positions offer no cover from all positions , not single spot where you can place a Sniper without getting shot, all Space Marine have extremly long range, can run entire map and have 3 attack per turn while in a Extra Turn(!) AND this is by far the buggiest fight in the game.

THIS FUCKING SUCKS HOLY SHIT HOW THIS SHIT PASSED Q.A

And you give them extra turn if you get a perils of the warp, so you're MC is a psyker FUCK YOU. nah, fuck this game.
 
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I'm trying to fight Uralon on Hard and this is the first fight in the game that i legit questioning the sanity of Owlcat's design for their fights.

Both starting positions offer no cover from all positions , not single spot where you can place a Sniper without getting shot, all Space Marine have extremly long range, can run entire map and have 3 attack per turn while in a Extra Turn(!) AND this is by far the buggiest fight in the game.

THIS FUCKING SUCKS HOLY SHIT HOW THIS SHIT PASSED Q.A

And you give them extra turn if you get a perils of the warp, so you're MC is a psyker FUCK YOU. nah, fuck this game.
Bold of you to assume that Owlcat has Q&A.
 

santino27

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My team has the sexiest and deadliest waifus you can recruit.
I'm trying to fight Uralon on Hard and this is the first fight in the game that i legit questioning the sanity of Owlcat's design for their fights.

Both starting positions offer no cover from all positions , not single spot where you can place a Sniper without getting shot, all Space Marine have extremly long range, can run entire map and have 3 attack per turn while in a Extra Turn(!) AND this is by far the buggiest fight in the game.

THIS FUCKING SUCKS HOLY SHIT HOW THIS SHIT PASSED Q.A

And you give them extra turn if you get a perils of the warp, so you're MC is a psyker FUCK YOU. nah, fuck this game.
Bold of you to assume that Owlcat has Q&A.
QA, not Q&A.
 
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I'm trying to fight Uralon on Hard and this is the first fight in the game that i legit questioning the sanity of Owlcat's design for their fights.

Both starting positions offer no cover from all positions , not single spot where you can place a Sniper without getting shot, all Space Marine have extremly long range, can run entire map and have 3 attack per turn while in a Extra Turn(!) AND this is by far the buggiest fight in the game.

THIS FUCKING SUCKS HOLY SHIT HOW THIS SHIT PASSED Q.A

And you give them extra turn if you get a perils of the warp, so you're MC is a psyker FUCK YOU. nah, fuck this game.
Bold of you to assume that Owlcat has Q&A.
QA, not Q&A.
Ya.Typo mistake on my end.
 

Renfri

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In Act 3 there was fight that was suddenly way more difficult than earlier fights. And with that I mean, it took 2 serious attempts to win (in total 3, but in second attempt enemies managed kill 2 out of 6 characters, in first turn so I started again). In winning try, having tank really paid off and one of the other companions dodged so many attacks too. I don't think my party is very optimized :shittydog:

Screenshot from the fight where 6 enemies are about die in one hit after picture was taken.
FL4uVNw.png
 

ArchAngel

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In Act 3 there was fight that was suddenly way more difficult than earlier fights. And with that I mean, it took 2 serious attempts to win (in total 3, but in second attempt enemies managed kill 2 out of 6 characters, in first turn so I started again). In winning try, having tank really paid off and one of the other companions dodged so many attacks too. I don't think my party is very optimized :shittydog:

Screenshot from the fight where 6 enemies are about die in one hit after picture was taken.
FL4uVNw.png
That is normal, that is a boss fight for Act 3
 

Renfri

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In Act 3 there was fight that was suddenly way more difficult than earlier fights. And with that I mean, it took 2 serious attempts to win (in total 3, but in second attempt enemies managed kill 2 out of 6 characters, in first turn so I started again). In winning try, having tank really paid off and one of the other companions dodged so many attacks too. I don't think my party is very optimized :shittydog:

Screenshot from the fight where 6 enemies are about die in one hit after picture was taken.
FL4uVNw.png
That is normal, that is a boss fight for Act 3
it took almost 50 hours to have this hard fight.
 

ArchAngel

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In Act 3 there was fight that was suddenly way more difficult than earlier fights. And with that I mean, it took 2 serious attempts to win (in total 3, but in second attempt enemies managed kill 2 out of 6 characters, in first turn so I started again). In winning try, having tank really paid off and one of the other companions dodged so many attacks too. I don't think my party is very optimized :shittydog:

Screenshot from the fight where 6 enemies are about die in one hit after picture was taken.
FL4uVNw.png
That is normal, that is a boss fight for Act 3
it took almost 50 hours to have this hard fight.
Well Act 1 boss fight usually also requires a reload when doing it first time.
 

Dishonoredbr

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Manage to take down Uralon and the boss afterwards.

This game still balanced around you getting extra turns or at least having character getting the first turn because otherwise you get burst down. Grand strategist is lowkey mandatory.

At least this fight made learn Grand Strategist properly and i actually really liked using Stragems. Forcing enemies to ignore everyone in the Rear Zone , giving extra Dodge to my Tanks with Backline zone plus Locust Strategem and using Frontline zone go get extra damage. It's my favorite archtype now.
 

asper

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Project: Eternity
I am looking into playing this, but if you can believe it, I know next to nothing about this 40k universe.
What is a good Codex approved introduction to this world? (video, audio, etc)
 

Yosharian

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asper I just finished reading this:


It was very good, I recommend it. All the characters are really interesting and it's fascinating watching them work together to take down their chosen target.

There are various books you can read that are part of the Horus Heresy, obviously the first book is the best place to start. However, the HH is a very mixed bag and you really need to follow a list in order to read only the best books and avoid the crap ones. The first book is very good though.

For games, the first Space Marine game is excellent but you need to pick it up on a sale, it's a little pricey right now (it's on sale on GOG.COM and Humble Bundle right now). The sequel is coming out in a month and is going to be fucking tremendous. The first Dawn of War game is untouchable (Dark Crusade, what a game) but very old now, the sequels are.. decidedly mixed, although DoW 2 has a certain charm to it. Battlesector is a nice one if you like turn-based, and you can buy it off CDKEYS for like $2 right now. Oh and Chaos Gate is a very good XCOM-clone although the loot/unlock RNG can be a little frustrating at times.

There are no good TV shows or movies, other than short fan movies that are mostly tech demos.
 
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Grunker

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I am looking into playing this, but if you can believe it, I know next to nothing about this 40k universe.
What is a good Codex approved introduction to this world? (video, audio, etc)

I read a few books, most were absolute dogshit, but the first Horus Heresy book was pretty good and it's a good introduction to the world. Gaunt's Ghosts was also enjoyable. Both are available as audiobooks.

For lore and quick introductions to the concepts, Luetin is like the ultimate sleep-to-this channel on YouTube entire:



I'm not that into 40K tbh but I enjoy having Luetin in the background while doing other shit
 

skaraher

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I am looking into playing this, but if you can believe it, I know next to nothing about this 40k universe.
What is a good Codex approved introduction to this world? (video, audio, etc)

I read a few books, most were absolute dogshit, but the first Horus Heresy book was pretty good and it's a good introduction to the world. Gaunt's Ghosts was also enjoyable. Both are available as audiobooks.

For lore and quick introductions to the concepts, Luetin is like the ultimate sleep-to-this channel on YouTube entire:



I'm not that into 40K tbh but I enjoy having Luetin in the background while doing other shit

Only the first HH book is readable.
 

Lemming42

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Both Pathfinder games are turn-based, the second one came with a TB mode at launch
I've since been told this and gone on a Pathfinder odyssey, playing Kingmaker in TB mode as long as I could. You can really tell the encounter design was built with RTWP in mind. Been brutally burned by Kingmaker so many times that I still haven't found the strength to give WOTR a proper try.
 

Sentinel

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Both Pathfinder games are turn-based, the second one came with a TB mode at launch
I've since been told this and gone on a Pathfinder odyssey, playing Kingmaker in TB mode as long as I could. You can really tell the encounter design was built with RTWP in mind. Been brutally burned by Kingmaker so many times that I still haven't found the strength to give WOTR a proper try.
WOTR is no different, despite having TB from the very start.
 

Grunker

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I don't entirely agree even though I understand what you mean, but I do think you won't enjoy WotR if you don't like Kingmaker, so probably a good decision to drop them.
 

Grunker

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I am looking into playing this, but if you can believe it, I know next to nothing about this 40k universe.
What is a good Codex approved introduction to this world? (video, audio, etc)

I read a few books, most were absolute dogshit, but the first Horus Heresy book was pretty good and it's a good introduction to the world. Gaunt's Ghosts was also enjoyable. Both are available as audiobooks.

For lore and quick introductions to the concepts, Luetin is like the ultimate sleep-to-this channel on YouTube entire:



I'm not that into 40K tbh but I enjoy having Luetin in the background while doing other shit

Only the first HH book is readable.


That was my point, yes.
 

Dishonoredbr

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I've since been told this and gone on a Pathfinder odyssey, playing Kingmaker in TB mode as long as I could. You can really tell the encounter design was built with RTWP in mind. Been brutally burned by Kingmaker so many times that I still haven't found the strength to give WOTR a proper try.
Wotr is better enjoyed using both modes. Harder fights you play on Turn based, fooder you play on RtwP. But honestly, if you didn't vibe with Kingmaker, Wrath is just that turn up to 11 with all the mythic powers.

Personally, i find harder to play WoTR/Kingmaker after playing Rogue Trader. Even if i preffer the building mechanics of Pathfinder, not having to deal with enemies with 56 AC at level 13 is refresing..

fuck everyone involved with Blackwater
 

Yosharian

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I am looking into playing this, but if you can believe it, I know next to nothing about this 40k universe.
What is a good Codex approved introduction to this world? (video, audio, etc)

I read a few books, most were absolute dogshit, but the first Horus Heresy book was pretty good and it's a good introduction to the world. Gaunt's Ghosts was also enjoyable. Both are available as audiobooks.

For lore and quick introductions to the concepts, Luetin is like the ultimate sleep-to-this channel on YouTube entire:



I'm not that into 40K tbh but I enjoy having Luetin in the background while doing other shit

Only the first HH book is readable.

Complete nonsense.

There are at least 15 books that are excellent.
 

Anonymous Ranger

Educated
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I am looking into playing this, but if you can believe it, I know next to nothing about this 40k universe.
What is a good Codex approved introduction to this world? (video, audio, etc)
I'm not sure if it's the best place to start but my intro to 40k was Dawn of War. If you like RTS it's probably worth looking into. I didn't really have much of an issue following what was going on even without knowing anything about the lore.
 

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