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Warhammer Warhammer 40,000: Rogue Trader - turn-based Warhammer 40k RPG from Owlcat Games - now with Void Shadows DLC

ERYFKRAD

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Strap Yourselves In Serpent in the Staglands Shadorwun: Hong Kong Pillars of Eternity 2: Deadfire Steve gets a Kidney but I don't even get a tag. Pathfinder: Wrath I'm very into cock and ball torture I helped put crap in Monomyth
Argenta is rocking a Heavy Bolter & Heavy Flamer. Best girl!
Once I got her the bolter that has 100% hit chance for single shots she was pretty much set.
 

ArchAngel

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Been playing this for the last few days, I think I should be done with act 4 soonish. It's been fun so far but kinda easy even though I feel like I'm building my crew like a total mongoloid, was the game really even easier at launch?
Storywise it's fun but maybe a bit bloated. Maybe it's because I've been just playing this on a binge and made around 40 hours in a couple of days but things are starting to kinda melt together in my mind and I somewhat forget about choices I've made before. You really could just skip the entirety of act 3, I thought it would be a side mission when I was getting into it.
Also, how much does the morality system change the game? I haven't been able to find much info online besides some party members leaving if you go for a heretic run and the game being stingy with the points. I've been going neutral until late act 3 (mostly iconoclast now) and I feel I might've fucked myself over doing that. Thinking about doing a chaos run sometime in the future but the game's just too big so if it doesn't really change things up I might just try again in a few years once the next dlc comes out.
Cassie a cute though. Kibellah close second.
At release you just needed two characters to beat enemies in combat, and in last act you could do it with one (I know as I tried for fun :D)
 

Darth Canoli

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You don't need much more now, few tough fights aside.

Kibellah can kill half the enemies in one turn if you can get a few kills before her turn.

Idira and Cassia are also lethal against groups but also spread targets with the overlapping damage feat...

I roll with 3 psykers (+ main) + Kibellah and Aberlard for some tanking when necessary and the fifth one is just useless but i'm probably going with the robot.
Usually, either 2 psykers get the job done or one psyker + kibellah + some buffs.
 

KVVRR

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The problem I've been finding with Cassia late game is that I can do 25% a pop to a wide area of enemies but it's just gonna burn my own teammates for 75% of their HP. Easier to just have her give buffs and extra turns to the damage dealers and picking off the stragglers one by one instead. Seems like she scaled too good into lategame early on before?
Kibellah was insane early on too but now she's struggling to take a single target down. If she does she can steamroll off of that though, she's great against a bunch of low HP goons.
There's probably a way to build around this but I'm having fun as is tbh. Ulfar's been carrying my ass hard and with a heavy flamethrower he's just Argenta but 3 times better.
Doesn't help that sometimes visual clarity isn't the best and I end up with, say, Yrliet blowing my main's head off because they're covered in blood, I'm blind as fuck and didn't bother to check which of the three characters standing in a row together was mine lmao
 

Forest Dweller

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I'd like to see some comparisons please:

Length vs Wrath of the Righteous
Combat bloat vs Wrath of the Righteous (my guess is less since it was designed as turn-based)
Replayability vs Wrath of the Righteous (both story and buildwise)
Writing quality vs Wrath of the Righteous (I know this is subjective. Is there tonal whiplash like in Wrath?)
 

notpl

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I'd like to see some comparisons please:

Length vs Wrath of the Righteous
Combat bloat vs Wrath of the Righteous (my guess is less since it was designed as turn-based)
Replayability vs Wrath of the Righteous (both story and buildwise)
Writing quality vs Wrath of the Righteous (I know this is subjective. Is there tonal whiplash like in Wrath?)
Less than half the length of WOTR. Basically the first two chapters are the same (maybe a touch shorter than wrath), then there's a short interlude chapter that some people hate (I thought it was fine, personally) and then the game's whole final act is a rushed shitshow that takes 5-10 hours or so, tops.

Less bloat because you are vastly more powerful in this. Seriously, it's almost impossible not to end every combat encounter on turn 1 on the highest difficulty if you know how to play RPGs. Plus no out-of-combat buffing.

Significantly less replayability. The heretic/dogmatic split is mostly an aesthetic one and really only happens in the second half of the game, IE the thing I just told you is rushed and unfinished. The closest comparison is the point in chapter 5 of WOTR where you fully commit to your mythic path (or do Legend) and you have options like killing the entire crusader army and raising them as undead slaves as a lich, calling an angelic host, etc., except there are only three such choices and the rest of the game is far less reactive to them than they were to your mythic path in WOTR. And the alignment here has zero influence on combat, whereas the mythic paths in Wrath were build-defining. Outside of a few dialogues in the tutorial there is zero reactivity to your class, background/origin, etc. There are some hilarious and fun options in dialogue, but the thing is that they usually aren't exclusive to one another. You can do the cackling madman heretic thing where you burn a bunch of prisoners alive as a dogmatic imperial footsoldier if you feel like it, so I wouldn't quite say these inclusions make the game more replayable.

Writing is the same, just with a more fun setting and fewer contractually-obligated lesbian girlbosses from paizo.
 

Axel_am

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I'd like to see some comparisons please:

Length vs Wrath of the Righteous
Combat bloat vs Wrath of the Righteous (my guess is less since it was designed as turn-based)
Replayability vs Wrath of the Righteous (both story and buildwise)
Writing quality vs Wrath of the Righteous (I know this is subjective. Is there tonal whiplash like in Wrath?)
Look Wrath is the bigger game on all accounts. If you want to compare them that's the short version.

There's a lot of build variety, not that much combat bloat and the writing is pretty good, but not consistently. All of this will most likely get better with time, just like it did with Wrath. If you enjoy Wrath and have any interest in Warhammer you should give Rogue Trader a shot even in it's current state.
 
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Dishonoredbr

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I'd like to see some comparisons please:

Length vs Wrath of the Righteous
Combat bloat vs Wrath of the Righteous (my guess is less since it was designed as turn-based)
Replayability vs Wrath of the Righteous (both story and buildwise)
Writing quality vs Wrath of the Righteous (I know this is subjective. Is there tonal whiplash like in Wrath?)
Shorter than Wrath.

There's still a bit too much of fighting, but most of the filler fights are stupidly easy.

Less replayable than Wrath. Wrath has 8 paths while Rogue Trader has only 3 and half paths. Also less classes. Still great game to make builds, even if psykers are objectively the strongest origin. There's so minor reactivity for each origin.

I would say the writing is very consistent to the tone and the dialogue from the player is their best one yet, there's a lot of more personality to it.. You can roleplay better than Wrath when comes to your character personality. There's room to be a Prissy noble, Commisar, Idealistic Iconoclast or a Zealot priest, for example.

All jokes and funny moments aren't the typical ''Oh so random'' from fantasy settings. They're jokes that work very well inside the setting, all dialogue from Tech Priests is great and extremly funny. I would say the companions are all good, Idira and Jae are the least liked companions, but there's still some meat for their characters. The most incomplete character is probably Argenta, but even she's way better than something like Nenio or Sosiel. It's definitely a upgrade from Wrath. There's still issues, like the lack of central Villain. The main villain has some fucking presence and amazing VA when he's in scene, but sadly there not enough of him. Also the heretical path is lackluster.
 

Forest Dweller

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If you enjoy Wrath and have any interest in Warhammer you should give Rogue Trader a shot even in it's current state.
It's more an issue of do I go ahead and play it in the near future, or wait until all the dlc are out like I did with Wrath. I'm towards the end with Wrath, and while I'd be interested in trying out some of the other mythic paths, I don't know if I want to go through everything else again. And if I end up feeling the same way about Rogue Trader, it's better that I wait until all the DLC are out. Then again, if it's shorter and with less filler combat, a replay might be more bearable.
 

Dishonoredbr

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If you enjoy Wrath and have any interest in Warhammer you should give Rogue Trader a shot even in it's current state.
It's more an issue of do I go ahead and play it in the near future, or wait until all the dlc are out like I did with Wrath. I'm towards the end with Wrath, and while I'd be interested in trying out some of the other mythic paths, I don't know if I want to go through everything else again. And if I end up feeling the same way about Rogue Trader, it's better that I wait until all the DLC are out. Then again, if it's shorter and with less filler combat, a replay might be more bearable.
I would recomend to wait until the second dlc release then because we don't know if we getting more, so you can play both DLCs and if they announce more DLCs it's going to take half a year or a whole 1 year to come out.
 

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Enjoy the Revolution! Another revolution around the sun that is. Serpent in the Staglands Dead State Divinity: Original Sin Project: Eternity Torment: Tides of Numenera Wasteland 2 Shadorwun: Hong Kong Divinity: Original Sin 2 A Beautifully Desolate Campaign Pillars of Eternity 2: Deadfire Pathfinder: Kingmaker Pathfinder: Wrath I'm very into cock and ball torture I helped put crap in Monomyth
Just hit PC Gamepass...will try and give it a whirl even though I'm not really a Warhammer/40K fan.
https://roguetrader.owlcat.games/news/en/47

Warhammer 40,000: Rogue Trader - now on Xbox Game Pass for Xbox Series S/X and PC!​



We are excited to share that Warhammer 40,000: Rogue Trader is now available on Xbox Game Pass for Xbox Series S/X and PC!

Players who have a Game Pass subscription can now play the game completely for free. Those who use the MS Store to play the game can share their saves between PC and console!

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https://www.xbox.com/en-US/games/store/warhammer-40000-rogue-trader/9P30BFHZ1BKN/0010
 

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