Warhammer Warhammer 40,000: Rogue Trader - turn-based Warhammer 40k RPG from Owlcat Games - now with Void Shadows DLC

[Lamiosa]

The problem with Ulfar and basically everything else in this game is that Owlcat didn't adapt the rules set, they just made up their own fucking shit that vaguely looks like it but goes way higher, and then plugged the numbers from the original game into it.

I've never played the pnp, but any ideas why owlcat didn't just use the original system and then just scale the numbers up?

That would've made sense, this weird pseudo-pnp inspired whatever system doesn't.

I remember an interview where a dev said the pnp was not scalable for a game this size, progression wise.

 

[Trithne]

The problem with Ulfar and basically everything else in this game is that Owlcat didn't adapt the rules set, they just made up their own fucking shit that vaguely looks like it but goes way higher, and then plugged the numbers from the original game into it.

I've never played the pnp, but any ideas why owlcat didn't just use the original system and then just scale the numbers up?

That would've made sense, this weird pseudo-pnp inspired whatever system doesn't.

I remember an interview where a dev said the pnp was not scalable for a game this size, progression wise.

Essentially you can't grow infinitely over a bloated 100+ hour 5 act dog and pony show, so it won't hold the attention of people who need a constant stream of LEVEL UP and magical powers to hold their attention.

 

[Xamenos]

Ah, so that's why they hand out levels like candy in their system

 

[REhorror]

Currently playing Act 2, man, they can make an entire game about the planet exploration + space combat + colony management.
The characters are fun and ground combat is addictive, but I wouldn't mind JUST about warping in-out and manage planet.

 

[user]

Who said that ch3 is bug free? At some point the game just broke, and sometimes skills had cooldowns, other times they didn't. I didn't know what was going on anymore. Afterwards I got this:

I do like ch3 so far though!

 

[Rhobar121]

I think I found another talent that doesn't work, Blazing Inferno. Too bad I had an idea for a compilation stacking sick amounts of crit.
To make it more fun, it worked before the patch, now it doesn't appear in the log at all.

Also, the latest update broke Pascal, now sometimes instead of attacking he provokes a opportunity attack and then runs and runs in place until you load the game.

 

[jf8350143]

Technically Ulfar is better than Argenta, if you can level him up from level 4 like you did with Argenta.

Also he can't use most of the equipment and space marine equipments are all locked behind factions and late game quests.

 

[REhorror]

Technically Ulfar is better than Argenta, if you can level him up from level 4 like you did with Argenta.

Also he can't use most of the equipment and space marine equipments are all locked behind factions and late game quests.

Kind of a damn shame but it's one game where a SoB outshines a Muhreen.

I'll take it, SoB are good models.

 

[Dishonoredbr]

The last update actually fixed all the crashes in Footfall. My game is running smoothly now. Good shit

 

[jf8350143]

So they still haven't fix the single target attack bug.

And the eldar quests seems to be still bugged.

 

[Herumor]

Just finished Commoragh again on my heresy run and I have to note that there's a real lack of reactivity from my companions about all the Warp shenanigans I pull.

No one fucking bats an eye when I just ritually sacrifice a gang of humans and a daemon pops up to give me my next set of instructions.

 

[user]

Now, this is what I was talking about. I am not familiar with warhammer lore in general, but you see a helpless abomination and this choice comes up. Wouldn't this be something a kindergarten kid would say?

 

[REhorror]

Now, this is what I was talking about. I am not familiar with warhammer lore in general, but you see a helpless abomination and this choice comes up. Wouldn't this be something a kindergarten kid would say?

You are a choosing the Heretic option, so no not kindergarten, but murderous anarchist.

 

[gurugeorge]

Just finished Commoragh again on my heresy run and I have to note that there's a real lack of reactivity from my companions about all the Warp shenanigans I pull.

No one fucking bats an eye when I just ritually sacrifice a gang of humans and a daemon pops up to give me my next set of instructions.

Given that it's all text, I do feel they could have a ton more reactivity than they do. I wouldn't say it's devoid of it, but there could be more. Like, for instance, I had Heinrix with me in Act 2 when I picked up Yrliet, and there was some satisfying reactivity from him at the pickup point, but I felt there could have been quite a bit more wrt some of the things she was saying, and particularly towards the culmination of that quest (where you meet Yrliet's fellow xenos).

 

[Incendax]

Just finished Commoragh again on my heresy run and I have to note that there's a real lack of reactivity from my companions about all the Warp shenanigans I pull.

No one fucking bats an eye when I just ritually sacrifice a gang of humans and a daemon pops up to give me my next set of instructions.

Given that it's all text, I do feel they could have a ton more reactivity than they do. I wouldn't say it's devoid of it, but there could be more. Like, for instance, I had Heinrix with me in Act 2 when I picked up Yrliet, and there was some satisfying reactivity from him at the pickup point, but I felt there could have been quite a bit more wrt some of the things she was saying, and particularly towards the culmination of that quest (where you meet Yrliet's fellow xenos).

Same. I went in alone to talk to the govenor and let her stay in office to ship tainted grain. Nobody said anything about it until I talked to Yrliet in private on the ship.

I know Heinrix objects if he was present at the meeting, but nobody asks what happened when you go alone.

 

[Incendax]

Goku could beat Superman if he went Super Saiyan 3 okay

The real problem is that the character system doesn't represent Space Marines well. Just like Eldar. They should have had unique mechanics.

He shouldn't be playable, exactly. There should be a "support" option where you bring in a big NPC for major fights.

Then you can pick Space Marine, Tank, Daemon, or some other BIG unit you have allied with in your story.

 

[Sunri]

Goku could beat Superman if he went Super Saiyan 3 okay

The real problem is that the character system doesn't represent Space Marines well. Just like Eldar. They should have had unique mechanics.

He shouldn't be playable, exactly. There should be a "support" option where you bring in a big NPC for major fights.

Then you can pick Space Marine, Tank, Daemon, or some other BIG unit you have allied with in your story.

And then they would shoot you in the back with full auto

 

[ERYFKRAD]

Goku could beat Superman if he went Super Saiyan 3 okay

The real problem is that the character system doesn't represent Space Marines well. Just like Eldar. They should have had unique mechanics.

He shouldn't be playable, exactly. There should be a "support" option where you bring in a big NPC for major fights.

Then you can pick Space Marine, Tank, Daemon, or some other BIG unit you have allied with in your story.

And then they would shoot you in the back with full auto

Maybe they should be a playable summon that costs PF instead.

 

[Reinhardt]

spoilers

question about janus for heretics:
i want to fight the vyatt figth for the loot, its nothing great, mostly for the +15 fellowship cape, +20 warplore book and 10 persuation ring.
does killing her hurt chaos if i pick the corrupted supplies for +15 heresy later anyway?
technically, out of larp reaons, i want to make her admit she is corrupted, and [heresy] force her to supply me.
but i also want to take over this world... and get the loot

as always - heretics are cucks. "boohoo! i can't decide! daddy kayos halp! me turned to ebul to do wat i want! b-b-but i dunno wat i want! wat if i lose something?!"

 

[Cyberarmy]

Who said that ch3 is bug free? At some point the game just broke, and sometimes skills had cooldowns, other times they didn't. I didn't know what was going on anymore. Afterwards I got this:

I do like ch3 so far though!

LoL, this is like Kingmaker all over again. I had 4 Amiri's back then in act 1 and one of them was in the party slot for MC


Really liking the game. Moving down them cultists, putting peasant to their place, executing heretics. We finally got a really nice 40 K RPG, didn't think that was possible in my life time. Game has really good amount of 40K lore dumps, even someone that haven't got any knowladge about 40K can learn a lot from this game.

 

[Alienman]

Would be nice to get a game you don't have to wait 4 years of patching for.

 

[Donald Gordon Lord]

Hmmm, by the way, what difficulties are you all playing on and how is it? A question to everyone

Playing on daring, and been pretty fun up until Ch3 boss starts shitting waves of reinforcements for no reason. Also dropped to normal for that Nurgle boss that takes forever to beat after it bugged out for the third time.

And speaking of bugs, how does all quest triggers breaking at the start of Ch 4 make it through qc lol. Pretty piss-poor.

Fun game otherwise.

 

[Cyberarmy]

Would be nice to get a game you don't have to wait 4 years of patching for.

I wanted to rate this

but couldn't.

 

[ArchAngel]

Would be nice to get a game you don't have to wait 4 years of patching for.

At least with Owlcat you only need to wait for patches. For example for Bethesda you also need to wait for mods.

 

[Togukawa]

Would be nice to get a game you don't have to wait 4 years of patching for.

True. But if I have the choice between this, and a polished turd like mass effect, I vastly prefer this.