Wasteland Wasteland 2 Pre-Release Discussion Thread [GAME RELEASED, GO TO NEW THREAD]

I hope that's a direct quote so I can laugh at Fargo dumbing it down to Fallout levels.

 

There were no direct quotes in the article, or at least there were no marked direct quotes.

 

"Brian Fargo said that the level editor will be released with 100% certainty, but we will have to wait some time after launch for that"

*Uninstalling Shadowrun Returns*

 

Preview is nice but commentaries...
OH MY GOD COMMENTARIES....



"gfx is shit. Game looks like Fallout 2 with better resolution. This kind of gfx in 2013????? Game is not book."
"I don't like kickstarter. Shadowrun Returns is shit"
"Ui is shit. Modern games have better ui's than this game"
"turn-based combat??? What is it? Total war? I'm too old to calculate action points. Turns are too slow and old for me"
"most likely story, dialogs and quest design will be shitty"
"game looks like fallout clone. I don't like this."

 

What are they saying? (Nie mówię ziemniaków)

 

http://translate.google.com.co/tran...asteland-2-in-der-Vorschau-1085369/&sandbox=1

Some new (well, I think) info from a German preview, translated via Google:

-Wasteland 2 contains over 20 NPCs that we can recruit for the three available character slots. Each of them has their own personality, and jumps to another attribute. So it can happen that a potential companion deflects the offer to join the group because he does not like that we have here a drinker.

-We could just use the Thieving Magpie to task and bring to limit his kleptomaniac tendencies - but only if we have a character in our group who has a correspondingly hochstufiges (high?) eloquence.

-. In addition, we determine whether our character is a smoker, like to be there stupid comments ("Smart Ass") or lags on one leg. This apparently extraneous features have enormous consequences: they determine how characters on our Ranger troop in dialogues react and what tasks they offer us. In almost every conversation, there will be those hidden triggers, so it is virtually impossible for two players to experience the same adventure and be compatible with the same people or AI-controlled battle.

- "We have saved by buying assets around a million dollars," says studio boss Fargo and adds: "Thanks to this method we have achieved in a period of 90 days progress, for which we would normally have used a year."

-. Which help color-coded phrases to quickly get an overview. We put our own answers heroes squad by keyword selection in the mouth. Practically, if we move the mouse pointer over the word, we see the formulated response. The rates are as predicted by the way deliberately straightforward: The Wasteland 2 heroes should be no run-on sentences by themselves, the player must decipher their significance only for seconds before selecting the most appropriate response by multiple-choice method.

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Google translate is strong in the last one, is there any fellow german codexer here that can give us a better translation of that part?

 

I updated my post.

 

Elthosian:

In those [dialogues], color-coded phrases help to get a quick overview. Some responses of our group are chosen by keywords. By moving the mouse pointer over the word, we see the answer fully written out. Those sentences are kept simple, by the way: The characters in Wasteland 2 aren't supposed to speak in long, complicated sentences whose significance has to be deciphered by the players ( ? ), before choosing the right answer in the multiple-choice system.

To be honest, it's a bit ambigous in german as well.

 

Interesting that "I'm too old to calculate action points".
I'm too old for popamole.

 

People complained about the keyword system because they cannot into abstractions, so InXile wrote sentences that you can see by hovering the mouse over them.

 

It all depends on how arbitrary those keywords are. With keywords you have a much higher chance to say something you don't want to than when seeing the complete answer.

 

Hah. Well the game doesn't just jump on you, you get plenty of warning, and while it will lock out a good part of the game, it also offers an alternate gamestate you wouldn't otherwise see.

Mang I never said it'd be up on Monday. It's a-comin'. Slowly but surely. you know how we are with video.

Doesn't seem like something we'd say, he might be extrapolating from a random remark or misunderstood something. Language barriers gonna barrier.

 

Brother None, Is it possible for a modder to remove those triggers that locks content? And make it possible to save both towns for example instead of choosing one?

 

So the modding tools are coming after all (though probably not until a few months into 2014)? This is relevant to my interests.

 

Why the hell would you want to do that?

Modders will fix break it.

 

0% chance of Wasteland 2 being better than Project: Eternity or 0% chance that you will perform seppuku?
If the former then you're delusional and if the latter then how unfortunate for us all.

 

What's wrong with trying to save both towns? If a modder can add another choice to spit my party or hire some mercenaries to help or buy time for me to act. That will be great I think.

 

What's wrong with this fuckers that can't accept that your choices can cut content from your gameplay? It's a pretty cool mechanic and adds to the replayability. Maybe you would be better playing Oblivion if you want to get access to all the content that should be mutually exclusive?

 

We'll try to make the tools as powerful as possible (part of the reason we're doing it post-release, more dedicated time to spend on it) but there's no way for me to say right now what exactly they'll be capable of.

 

What's wrong with playing the game the opposite way it's supposed to be played.

Well, in essence, nothing I guess. It's just puzzling that people have already decided they HAVE to mod it. And modding out one of the things that's more interesting about it, no less. Well, popamolers gonna popamole.

 

The first mods for any game are always cheat mods or nude/porn mods -- it's the law or something. Wonder which it'll be for WL2.

Anyway, I assume the mod tools will be polished/updated versions of the ones the designers used to make all the areas / quest logic / enemies / items / etc in the game?

 

Three Dog radio frequency

 

Them is fightin' words!

 

Yes, just make your choices irrelevant. Who needs C&C in an RPG anyway?