Wasteland Wasteland 2 Pre-Release Discussion Thread [GAME RELEASED, GO TO NEW THREAD]

[FeelTheRads]

Interesting that "I'm too old to calculate action points".
I'm too old for popamole.

 

[tuluse]

People complained about the keyword system because they cannot into abstractions, so InXile wrote sentences that you can see by hovering the mouse over them.

 

[Gord]

People complained about the keyword system because they cannot into abstractions, so InXile wrote sentences that you can see by hovering the mouse over them.

It all depends on how arbitrary those keywords are. With keywords you have a much higher chance to say something you don't want to than when seeing the complete answer.

 

[Brother None]

Oh, get over it.

Hah. Well the game doesn't just jump on you, you get plenty of warning, and while it will lock out a good part of the game, it also offers an alternate gamestate you wouldn't otherwise see.

Brother None Where da KS update yo

Mang I never said it'd be up on Monday. It's a-comin'. Slowly but surely. you know how we are with video.

What exactly is meant with 'more fallouty'?

Here's what the article says about this: initially the game was supposed to be more 'tactical' 'with a lot of micro-management' (like Wasteland) and now it is more 'RPG' 'plot and dialog driven' (like Fallout).

Yeah, I'm not sure either.

Sounds like he's making shit up

Doesn't seem like something we'd say, he might be extrapolating from a random remark or misunderstood something. Language barriers gonna barrier.

 

[Xeon]

Brother None, Is it possible for a modder to remove those triggers that locks content? And make it possible to save both towns for example instead of choosing one?

 

[Zetor]

So the modding tools are coming after all (though probably not until a few months into 2014)? This is relevant to my interests.

 

[Infinitron]

Wasteland 2 will turn out better than PE and Roguey will have to perform seppuku in front of her shrine to Sawyer.

0% chance of this happening.

It's true.

There's 0% chance that Roguey will like Wasteland 2 more than PE.

 

[FeelTheRads]

Brother None, Is it possible for a modder to remove those triggers that locks content? And make it possible to save both towns for example instead of choosing one?

Why the hell would you want to do that?

Modders will fix break it.

 

[I_am_Ian]

Wasteland 2 will turn out better than PE and Roguey will have to perform seppuku in front of her shrine to Sawyer.

0% chance of this happening.

0% chance of Wasteland 2 being better than Project: Eternity or 0% chance that you will perform seppuku?
If the former then you're delusional and if the latter then how unfortunate for us all.

 

[Xeon]

Why the hell would you want to do that?

Modders will fix break it.

What's wrong with trying to save both towns? If a modder can add another choice to spit my party or hire some mercenaries to help or buy time for me to act. That will be great I think.

 

[Cosmic Misogynerd]

What's wrong with this fuckers that can't accept that your choices can cut content from your gameplay? It's a pretty cool mechanic and adds to the replayability. Maybe you would be better playing Oblivion if you want to get access to all the content that should be mutually exclusive?

 

[Brother None]

Brother None, Is it possible for a modder to remove those triggers that locks content? And make it possible to save both towns for example instead of choosing one?

We'll try to make the tools as powerful as possible (part of the reason we're doing it post-release, more dedicated time to spend on it) but there's no way for me to say right now what exactly they'll be capable of.

 

[FeelTheRads]

What's wrong with trying to save both towns?

What's wrong with playing the game the opposite way it's supposed to be played.

Well, in essence, nothing I guess. It's just puzzling that people have already decided they HAVE to mod it. And modding out one of the things that's more interesting about it, no less. Well, popamolers gonna popamole.

 

[Zetor]

The first mods for any game are always cheat mods or nude/porn mods -- it's the law or something. Wonder which it'll be for WL2.

Anyway, I assume the mod tools will be polished/updated versions of the ones the designers used to make all the areas / quest logic / enemies / items / etc in the game?

 

[himmy]

The first mods for any game are always cheat mods or nude/porn mods -- it's the law or something. Wonder which it'll be for WL2.

Three Dog radio frequency

 

[Gurkog]

Three Dog radio frequency

Them is fightin' words!

 

[J_C]

Why the hell would you want to do that?

Modders will fix break it.

What's wrong with trying to save both towns? If a modder can add another choice to spit my party or hire some mercenaries to help or buy time for me to act. That will be great I think.

Yes, just make your choices irrelevant. Who needs C&C in an RPG anyway?

 

[I_am_Ian]

Some people just cannot accept the casualties of war.

And I envy them their sweet, sweet naïveté. But in my world it's dark and it's dirty and it stinks. I mean it really smells bad here. What IS that?

 

[Xeon]

Yes, just make your choices irrelevant. Who needs C&C in an RPG anyway?

I don't understand, Doesn't me picking the choice to try and save both towns have the consequence of having access to both towns instead of one? Or do you mean more impactful?

I_am_Ian, I don't think I explained myself correctly. I don't have a problem with bad results. I only want the choice to at least try and save both towns instead of one.

FeelTheRads, The last sentence is probably right. I only started playing on PC 3 years ago and one of the best things I think is how moddable most games are. Just in case not to create a misunderstanding. If I play a game for the first time I don't use anything that results in changing the way the game is supposed to be played.

Brother None, Thank you. It was just a question so not a request or anything like that.

 

[J_C]

Yes, just make your choices irrelevant. Who needs C&C in an RPG anyway?

I don't understand, Doesn't me picking the choice to try and save both towns have the consequence of having access to both towns instead of one? Or do you mean more impactful?

If you can choose between saving town A or town B, or saving both of them, who would not choose saving both of them? You save more NPCs, you probably get more loot and more XP from them. This would make the choice irrelevant. The only way it would work in my book if you get some kind of negative consequence if you save both of them.

 

[Helly]

Yes, just make your choices irrelevant. Who needs C&C in an RPG anyway?

I don't understand, Doesn't me picking the choice to try and save both towns have the consequence of having access to both towns instead of one? Or do you mean more impactful?

If you can choose between saving town A or town B, or saving both of them, who would not choose saving both of them? You save more NPCs, you probably get more loot and more XP from them. This would make the choice irrelevant. The only way it would work in my book if you get some kind of negative consequence if you save both of them.

What if you made the "save both" a non-implicit & especially hard choice ?

 

[LeJosh]

Fire bomb both towns!

 

[Infinitron]

http://www.pcgames.de/Assassins-Cre...ren-ihre-Hits-anhand-einer-Zeichnung-1085609/ 2:45 o_O

German weirdness

 

[Spectacle]

What's wrong with this fuckers that can't accept that your choices can cut content from your gameplay? It's a pretty cool mechanic and adds to the replayability. Maybe you would be better playing Oblivion if you want to get access to all the content that should be mutually exclusive?

I don't have any problem with choices leading to content being unavailable, but this particular situation feels rather contrived. Two towns are attacked at the same time and there's absolutely no way to reach both of them before the attacks are over, but definitely time to reach one? What a coincidence!

I'd have liked it if it was possible to save one, both or no towns, or at least partially saving them, based on how skillfully you're playing rather than just making arbitrary choices.

 

[I_am_Ian]

I agree it would be great to be able to play every conceivable scenario in an RPG.