Wasteland Wasteland 2 Pre-Release Discussion Thread [GAME RELEASED, GO TO NEW THREAD]

[Chaotic_Heretic]

Price: $320
(shipping included)

Brian is being a too greedy hoping that the KS incline cock-sucking will completely blind us to his banker heritage and blatant publisher behaviour.

 

[Blaine]

Well, it's halfway through October, and still not a peep. If only there were a workable way to start a betting pool. Split would be October release/Nov.-Dec. release/2014 release. If I were a bookie making odds, I'd put 4:1 on October, 2:1 on November and December, and 3:1 on 2014.

...It's become clear to me that I have no idea how to make odds.

 

[imweasel]

They have been trying to sell those posters for abo

Price: $320
(shipping included)

So, they lowered the price of the prints. They used to cost $500.

 

[Blaine]

I'd buy the original for a few thou, not gonna buy a print for that much though.

 

[Brother None]

So, they lowered the price of the prints. They used to cost $500.

No, they never cost $500. Brian once asked on Facebook how much people would be willing to pay for them and proposed $500, but the feedback said "that's too much" so he worked on getting it lower. $320 was the sweet spot, and we have been selling it for that since day 1.

Anyone who thinks that's an unusual price should look more into the average pricing of high-quality prints. Being the Codex, you may prefer to spend your money on this.

 

[Blaine]

When it comes to artwork, perceived value is everything. For practical purposes, it's just some fancy wood mash or fabric with pigment smeared all over it.

I do love that cover art, though. Still, my desire to possess and display it demands the original painting, which is out of reach since they'll probably need it in order to make more "limited" prints when Wasteland 3 rolls around. (I kid, I'm sure it's already digitized)

 

[imweasel]

So, they lowered the price of the prints. They used to cost $500.

No, they never cost $500. Brian once asked on Facebook how much people would be willing to pay for them and proposed $500, but the feedback said "that's too much" so he worked on getting it lower. $320 was the sweet spot, and we have been selling it for that since day 1.

Ah, ok. My bad.

 

[Roguey]

when is this getting released?

Beta should be out within two weeks, assuming there's no slip in the schedule. Full game will be sometime early 2014.

 

[Toffeli]

Anyone here only pledged through codex fundraiser (and receiving a key with it), but is curious about the beta. Just wondering if someone has tried to upgrade to gain beta access? Asked about it via Facebook a couple of months a go, and they pointed me forward to support, but forgot to do anything about it.

 

[Infinitron]

Will beta be purchasable?

http://wasteland.inxile-entertainment.com/store

55$

 

[iZerw]

It costs only 20$ "20 USD special addon".

 

[iZerw]

So you want to buy a beta access to a game you have not purchased?

 

[FeelTheRads]

Day minus a couple of months purchase.

 

[iZerw]

So you want to buy a beta access to a game you have not purchased?

Because there has never been an early access before ?

It's not an early access. It's a standalone beta.

 

[Brother None]

So you want to buy a beta access to a game you have not purchased?

Because there has never been an early access before ?

Kickstarter pricing works different. Beta access is always a part of higher tiers ($55 and up for early backers for WL2, which is more than 10K people) or an add-on. That pricing logic is again evinced by how Kickstarted Planetary Annihilation transitioned to early access here.

 

[Blaine]

Frankly, this is exactly how I'd expect someone to react to that price point for what is, in the modern view, a niche indie game they've never heard of until recently.

Also, Planetary Annihilation in an RTS, a genre that hasn't died yet, so it's not directly comparable. The stir that that $90 Steam price point caused was pretty damned funny, though.

 

[Brother None]

Frankly, this is exactly how I'd expect someone to react to that price for what is, in the modern view, a niche indie game and one they've never heard of.

Also, Planetary Annihilation in an RTS, a genre that hasn't died yet, so it's not directly comparable. The stir that that $90 Steam price point caused was pretty damned funny, though.

There was a lot of guff on the forums about Planetary Annihilation's Early Access pricing, but it's also consistently been among Steam's top sellers. This seems to be one of those the noise and the signal things.

So in essence I'd pay full price for to-be-finished game and be a 'beta tester' .

Well, keep in mind initial Kickstarter backers paid $15 for the digital copy, and even the current listed late backer price is not necessarily the final full price. But yes, beta access is something you pay to get. Or you don't.

 

[iZerw]

So in essence I'd pay full price for to-be-finished game and be a 'beta tester' .

I wonder if beta tester in the 90's were actualy being paid for their work ?

What kickstarter's mid-tiers backers receive in one box as an additional bonus for their support, now you have to buy separately. It's just that simple. If you want inXile to receive additional finance for the development of W2 or for bottles of 200$ whiskey (nevah forget!) you may want to buy a beta-access or upgrade to box version.

 

[Roguey]

Reminder that the beta won't even be the full game, but only a piece of it, just like I said it'd be. Something to keep in mind if one is considering paying just for beta access.

Basically a glorified buggy demo that you have to pay extra to play.

 

[Infinitron]

Reminder that the beta won't even be the full game, but only a piece of it, just like I said it'd be. Something to keep in mind if one is considering paying just for beta access.

Basically a glorified buggy demo that you have to pay extra to play.

On the flip side, you get to know first-hand how shitty the game is before everyone else. What Codexer could resist?

 

[drae]

On the flip side, you get to know first-hand how shitty the game is before everyone else. What Codexer could resist?

Yes, imagine all the brofists that knowledge could net you. Don't think of it as buying a buggy, incomplete mess, think of it as an easy way to obtain valuable Codex street cred.

What could possibly be more important?

 

[shihonage]

I wonder if beta tester in the 90's were actualy being paid for their work ?

On a contract, I briefly beta-tested Mechwarrior 2 for S3 Virge cards in the 90s, so that would be a "yes".

They didn't fix a single bug I filed, though.

 

[Infinitron]

A lot of testers for games back then were kids...like Chris Keenan, lead designer of Wasteland 2, who began his career at Interplay at the tender age of 15.

 

[Ninjerk]

On the flip side, you get to know first-hand how shitty the game is before everyone else. What Codexer could resist?

Yes, imagine all the brofists that knowledge could net you. Don't think of it as buying a buggy, incomplete mess, think of it as an easy way to obtain valuable Codex street cred.

What could possibly be more important?

Quite an investment...

 

[J_C]

So you want to buy a beta access to a game you have not purchased?

Because there has never been an early access before ?

Kickstarter pricing works different. Beta access is always a part of higher tiers ($55 and up for early backers for WL2, which is more than 10K people) or an add-on. That pricing logic is again evinced by how Kickstarted Planetary Annihilation transitioned to early access here.

I don't get why people can't understand that. Backers payed 55 dollars for a beta access, and now people want the devs to screw those guys over, and sell an early access for 20 dollars, just because every game on early access costs that much? Logic, where are you?