Wasteland Wasteland 2 Thread - Director's Cut

[Bubbles]

More info on the Gary Wolfe recruitment problem:

Gary Wolfe spawn is still buggy as HELL. When I saw him, I saved like a gazillion time, quicksaving and saving normally, and I talked to him. I didn't had enough charisma because in the process of redoing the quest, I had forgot to equip charisma item and perk allowing you to double charisma when it comes to recruiting people. So I quickloaded by reflex and he was gone. I loaded a manual save, right after Sandlers congratulates me, went for Gary again aaaaaaand gone. Vanished. In every. single. save. made after getting back to temple. Buggy as hell. I had to load one right before I send the nuke to the DBM depot and get back to the temple once a gain and I finally was able to recruit him.

 

[Zeronet]

I can never bring myself to rescue AG centre, because whats the point of supercrops if there's no water?

 

[Excidium II]

I can never bring myself to rescue AG centre, because whats the point of supercrops if there's no water?

Exactly. Water is more important, specially because all that mutated food sounds like a bad idea anyway. Also Kathy Lawson dies as a bonus, the fuck is up with that voice acting.

 

[Excidium II]

Credit where it's due the loading times in this game are a relief after PoE and all the HBS Shadowrun games. Last game I played was SRHK and it took almost 2 minutes to load a save on one of the final missions.

 

[StaticSpine]

Is there a way to upgrade the game to Digital Deluxe edition?

 

[cvv]

Credit where it's due the loading times in this game are a relief after PoE and all the HBS Shadowrun games. Last game I played was SRHK and it took almost 2 minutes to load a save on one of the final missions.

I've never understood how is it that a game with a piece of shit flash mobile engine like Shadowrun needs a full minute of loading on my brand new SSD 16 GB RAM computer. The whole game would fit in my RAM five times over.

Btw DC is much improved in that respect from vanilla which was even worse disaster than Shadowrun.

 

[Infinitron]

Unity 4-> Unity 5.

 

[Roguey]

I can never bring myself to rescue AG centre, because whats the point of supercrops if there's no water?

It doesn't remove all water, and doesn't hurt the AG Center's crop output any.

I figured going a bit thirsty was better than going hungry (food has water in it). The contradictory ending slides are hilarious though.

Thanks to your timely intervention, Ag Center is recovering from the outbreak of mutant plant and insect growth that threatened to destroy it, and is once again distributing much needed fresh produce to communities across Arizona. There is still much rebuilding to be done, but because of you no-one is going hungry, and the future of farming in Arizona is looking brighter every day.

Without Highpool's regular deliveries of clean water, many communities are going thirsty and watching their crops wither to ash. Now farmers with nothing to eat are turning to banditry, and bloody conflicts are raging over the ownership of the few remaining springs and wells.

Bravo, Fargo.

 

[Grotesque]

I figured going a bit thirsty was better than going hungry

in 3 days you die of thirst
in nearly a month you die of hunger
do the math.

 

[Infinitron]

Since it's unlikely that the wasteland truly relies entirely upon a single location for all of its food or water needs, I would choose based on which of the two areas has the most dangerous foe.

 

[Roguey]

If you fail to save the AG Center, you end up with outbreaks because of that well-meaning jerk who decided to share seeds with his birds.

Meanwhile, if you fail to save Highpool, you can still go kill the Wrecking Crew.

in 3 days you die of thirst
in nearly a month you die of hunger
do the math.

"(food has water in it)"

The "drink 6-8 glasses a water a day" thing is unnecessary because a lot of the water you get comes from food.

 

[Grotesque]

unnecessary because a lot of the water you get comes from food.

are you for real?
is that your explanation? food has water in it? what is that food you speak of? melons and cucumbers?
[facepalm]

 

[Roguey]

are you for real?
is that your explanation? food has water in it? what is that food you speak of? melons and cucumbers?
[facepalm]

Fruits and vegetables, like the giant ones you see at the Ag Center.

 

[Grotesque]

So the food you were talking about transformed in fruits and vegetables. ok.
Still not enough water necessary for normal body functions.
Instead dying in 3 days, you die in 5 days (is you skip the fruits)

 

[Florian Gheorghe]

Gorkinovich's voice ( in the Rail Nomad's bar) voice sounds a lot like Austin Power's Goldmember

 

[cvv]

Ag Center is not just a piece of farmland, it's mainly an agricultural research station. Its GMOed crops and cultures are crucial for reviving the region. Highpool can be rebuild, the loss of knowledge is permanent.

 

[Roguey]

So the food you were talking about transformed in fruits and vegetables. ok.
Still not enough water necessary for normal body functions.
Instead dying in 3 days, you die in 5 days (is you skip the fruits)

I'm positive one can survive without actually drinking anything for quite a while.

http://healthyeating.sfgate.com/list-fruits-vegetable-high-water-content-8958.html

Watermelon and strawberries contain about 92 percent water per volume. Other fruits with high water content include grapefruit with 91 percent, cantaloupe with 90 percent and peaches with 88 percent water. Fruits containing 87 percent water by weight include pineapple, cranberries, orange and raspberries. Apricots hold 86 percent water, while blueberries and plums contain 85 percent water. The water content for apples and pears is 84 percent. Cherries and grapes contain an average of 81 percent water. And, a banana’s composition includes 74 percent water.

On top of the vegetables list are cucumber and lettuce, consisting of 96 percent water. Zucchini, radish and celery are comprised of 95 percent water. Ninety-four percent of tomato's weight is water, and green cabbage is 93 percent water. Vegetables that contain 92 percent water include cauliflower, eggplant, red cabbage, peppers and spinach. Broccoli is 91 percent water by weight. Additional healthy hydrating foods include carrots with 87 percent water and green peas and white potatoes with 79 percent water.

 

[GarfunkeL]

So the food you were talking about transformed in fruits and vegetables. ok.
Still not enough water necessary for normal body functions.
Instead dying in 3 days, you die in 5 days (is you skip the fruits)

Yes it. Every piece of fresh food has water in it. Fruits and vegetables have significant amounts of water. You will feel thirsty and you might have a headache if you can't drink anything else but if you have plenty of fruits and veggies to eat, you won't die of dehydration.

 

[SausageInYourFace]

Now I ain't no farmer, but doesn't the water in fruits comes from.. well, watering them? I suppose that the AG Center was depending on water from Highpool, or did it have an autonomous water supply? Also, Highpool was growing food too and its water supply should help with any future plans for farming. It is the more valuable location from a strategic point of view.

In any case, thats a lot of pondering about possible future consequences when in reality the rangers have to make a very quick and decisive call of judgement. There were a lot of innocent civilians in Highpool, so I see no good reason to attempt to save a handful of scientists in some freakish GMC lab on the flimsy intel they are 'attacked by plants' while a very real and urgent situation occurs in the only major settlement in the area.

 

[gestalt11]

in 3 days you die of thirst
in nearly a month you die of hunger
do the math.

The math = either way you die.

 

[Zombra]

Guys. Oases.

 

[Excidium II]

You people really want those genetically modified giant vegetables? That stuff's freaky.

In any case, thats a lot of pondering about possible future consequences when in reality the rangers have to make a very quick and decisive call of judgement. There were a lot of innocent civilians in Highpool, so I see no good reason to attempt to save a handful of scientists in some freakish GMC lab on the flimsy intel they are 'attacked by plants' while a very real and urgent situation occurs in the only major settlement in the area.

Indeed. Maybe Ranger Citadel could have sent some of those rangers that just sit around doing nothing all day...:hiver:

 

[Bubbles]

Guys. Oases.

Full of delicious palm trees. No need for any GMOs.

 

[Kaivokz]

There were a lot of innocent civilians in Highpool, so I see no good reason to attempt to save a handful of scientists in some freakish GMC lab on the flimsy intel they are 'attacked by plants' while a very real and urgent situation occurs in the only major settlement in the area.

If all you know is that you have to choose between a settlement with a water supply and an agronomy research center, well... I'd choose the AG center. Agronomy is the application of a broad spectrum of scientific knowledge including of physics, chemistry, biology, genetics, geology, and meteorology. The loss of that knowledge could potentially outweigh the loss of many lives. I would certainly give my life in the aftermath of a nuclear fallout if it meant a chance at preserving the knowledge of humanity for future generations.

But, it depends on what your goal is. If all you want to do is survive, repopulate the planet with a bunch of fucks, and set human development back a few thousand years, then by all means prioritize saving as many people as possible regardless of context. If you want to try building something meaningful (e.g. a society with theories of physics and chemistry, a developed and advancing science of medicine, a space program, education, etc.), keeping a research facility up and running--along with protecting the people who know how to run it---could easily outweigh saving a settlement of largely uneducated people. That said, the researchers at AG center seem like fucks too (at least the leaders--maybe the unnamed researchers that you save hold some genius), so the choice might just be between saving a bunch of fucks in either case.

 

[SausageInYourFace]

could potentially

a very quick and decisive call of judgement .. a very real and urgent situation

I tried to explain that all these complicated considerations seem overtly eggheaded for that kind of situation. If I get an urgent emergency call, I don't sit down and consider the possible worth of biotechnology for the future of mankind and try to assess its potential long-term effects on the human population, write a paper about it and discuss it with my peers. I go where I can make the biggest immediate difference and where my help is needed the most.

protecting the people who know how to run it---could easily outweigh saving a settlement of largely uneducated people.

I don't like to weight the value of the life of a human being like this.