Watch me play a shitty game (Fallout 3) (COMPLETED!!)

[Hoaxmetal]

JESUS CHRIST, these guys really need to learn to distinguish fantasy from science fiction.
Oh wow. I thought this Harold rape thing was more of a joke/exaggeration, but alas, it totally wasn't. Look! They even have druids! Muahahaha. Morbid curiosity (clicking this thread) paid off once again.

Druids aka hippies aren't really that impossible in newer ages but this is Beth and this is dumb shit.

 

[Carceri]

JESUS CHRIST, these guys really need to learn to distinguish fantasy from science fiction.
Oh wow. I thought this Harold rape thing was more of a joke/exaggeration, but alas, it totally wasn't. Look! They even have druids! Muahahaha. Morbid curiosity (clicking this thread) paid off once again.

I'm playing it now and it's not like that. It's not because my "standards are lower" (I'm not a console kiddie, if it matter that much), I just dont see anything that bad.

 

[Micmu]

It is that bad in a nuked post-apoc setting, you're just retarded. Have fun playing your krazy mish-mash games for kids though.

 

[Carceri]

I really do think Fallout 3 is a three times vomited piece of dehydrated shit so you tell that to Clockwork Knight. I was just trying to figure out where would his words fit.

 

[Emotional Vampire]

JESUS CHRIST, these guys really need to learn to distinguish fantasy from science fiction.

Reading this thread that's exactly what struck me - greatest tragedy of Fallout 3 (as a stand-alone game unrelated to other Fallouts that is) is it's setting. It's like they designed a fantasy game, then Inconvenience Fairy appeared, waved it's magic cock and flipped all art in the game into sci-fi. The idiotic Bobbleheads, the magical clothing raising your stats, most of enemies, locations and quests - everything would work PERFECTLY if only it was a fantasy game. Would anyone complain about a talking tree with druids in a fantasy setting? Would anyone be bothered by a cult of blood-drinking people? Shit like that is bread and butter of fantasylands.

And Bethesda really did some things well in Fallout 3. The world is pretty damn big, there are dialogue stat-checks(hamhanded, but always), system is good (Because it's stolen) and most of the quests are quite original. If it was another Elder Scrolls game, it could really be something decent.

As it is now it's, well, Oblivion with guns.

Pretty fucking ironic.

 

[spectre]

I put on my hat with glittering gems of hatred...

^@EV, Thing is even when they stole the system they managed to fuck it up. Most stats are highly irrelevant, tag skills are irreleveant, the skill % cap at 100 fucks it all up (you can max them all with a little care before you hit the level cap), traits are no more and perks are mostly +5% to this skill and 5% to that. So yeah, you steal a good system (although it needed some balancing imo) and strip away all the posibilities it gave.

I agree with the comments about the fantasy-ishness.
Who woulda thunk it, on the other hand, the guys were doing mostly fantasy to date and we all know they aren't the best in the creativity department.

 

[ghostdog]

The Fallout setting is neither fantasy nor sci-fi. It's post apocalyptic. Bethesda managed to cram in all kinds of shit from generic D&D to aliens and samurai except any actual PA stuff. Combine that with retarded writing and what you get is a facepalm carnival of idiots.

 

[DriacKin]

Part 16 – No Country For Old Men

Now that the Harold mission is out of the way, we’re gonna continue doing some main quest stuff.

If you recall, at the end of Part 14, Daddy Neeson and his crew were about to head back to their old lab. But, before they could do that, he gave us a mission:

What the hell? Didn’t you just visit this place just a couple days ago? We even found your journals in there.

How the hell were you able to get around all the Super Mutants back then?

Whatever. Let’s just do this and get it over with.

This is the inside of the lab. We find a lot of really boring rooms and corridors here.

Inside, we find this room with an operating table. I think this is supposed to be the room that we were born in.

This is also the room where mommy died.

We also meet about a half dozen of these super mutants that Daddy was so scared of.

After killing all the orcs inside the building, we head back outside and inform Daddy Neeson of our progress.

Once we're inside, we talk to him again:

Just in case you forgot about it since the beginning of the game, he repeats it for you.

Revelation 21:6. I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end. I will give unto him that is athirst of the fountain of the water of life, freely.

I’m sure the numbers 21:6 won’t be involved in some contrived puzzle later on... Clearly.

FACT: That line from the Bible is actually referring to Fallout 3. Fallout 3 is so amazing that even the Bible has verses that refer to it.

:sigh:

Anyway, what menial, boring task do you have for me to do now?

Project Purity was abandoned shortly after you were born. Things have deteriorated here since then, and there’s been some flooding.

Ugh. This sounds boring. Can’t you get somebody else to do this?

The automatic doors sealed when the flooding occurred, so you’ll have to use the access tunnels to reach the pumps.

So, in other words, the game is artificially lengthening the game by forcing us to take the long route?

Correct.

Let’s just get this over with. It’s not like we have any choice in the matter...

So, we head through the basement and follow the corridors until we finally find the power switch.

After completing this task, Daddy Neeson tells us (via intercom) to head back to the lab.

Umm...Aren’t I a little old for that talk?

I’m not talking about that. Anyway, I’ve been... hearing things. Things that’ve happened out there.

:twisted:

Yes, we did have something to do with it. Destroying Megaton was pretty fun.

What I did might’ve been wrong, but can’t even compare to such a thing.

:twisted:

Really? That was it? I’m not even getting punished?

:facepalm:

Also, if you care so much about Megaton, why didn’t you just disarm the bomb yourself? We’ve been told that you’ve been to the city at least twice. Why didn’t you just disarm it then?

Yeah. He’s supposed to be a big time scientist, so he should’ve been [Intelligent] enough to figure out how to do it. It’s not even like it took us a lot of time to do it.

You’re just as much to blame as we are...

We’ll talk about this later. Right now, we have work to do.

The flooding shorted out some of the fuse boxes downstairs, including one that controls some of the automatic doors.

Ugh. Is this mean that we're gonna get yet another menial, boring mission that we can’t reject?

Exactly. Take these fuses and head over to the fuse box in the basement.

So, we head down to the basement yet again and find the fuse box.

After we fix the fuse boxes, daddy tells us to head over the computer room and boot up the machines there.

Now that the flooding has stopped and the fuses have been replaced, we can power on the servers.

This is what the servers look like after they’ve been turned on.

We then head over to the intercom to talk to daddy and get the next super exciting task he needs us to do:

Dude, this is getting pretty tedious.

Agreed.

Here’s the entrance to the pipes that we need to access.

Here’s the valve that we have to open:

Conveniently, this area of the tunnels seems to be damaged and we can see outside from here.

After a few seconds, we can see a helicopter approach the lab.

What a surprise!! We’re so fortunate that there just happened to be an opening in the tunnels giving us a good view of the chopper.

Anyway, who are these guys?

We can hear daddy’s voice.

And lock the door, she did.

Unfortunately, by locking the door, Dr. Li also locked the door that we used to get here.

So, does this mean that we can’t get back into the lab?

Not exactly. It just means that we have to take the long way instead.

This is getting pretty tedious...

Therefore, we have to take the long way back to the lab, which takes us through these tunnels.

On the way back, we encounter a couple of Enclave Soldiers who attack us on sight.

We finally get back to the lab, and we find this guy talking to daddy.

What was the point of locking the doors if the Enclave dudes were able to get in anyway?

The only purpose locking the doors seem to serve was to force us to take the long route.

Daddy doesn’t seem to want to hand over the project material to the Enclave dudes.

Hey, maybe these guys are actually good guys. Maybe they’ll help us to get this facility running again!

Daddy Neeson informs the Enclave dude that this research project is still in the research phase.

This makes Enclave dude man, and he shoots the other random scientist chick in the room.

Umm...who the hell was that chick who just got killed?

I have no idea. I think she was just a generic scientist whose sole purpose in this game was to get herself shot.

Anyway, that burst of violence makes daddy much more complacent.

Very well. Just give me a few moments to bring the system online.

After a few more seconds, we witness a sudden explosion inside the chamber.

EXPLOSION!!

Smoke fills the room as both of these two guys are coughing and seem to be feeling sick.

Daddy?! What’s wrong?

HOLY SHIT!! Liam Neeson is Dead!!!!!!!

OMG, They killed Daddy!!

THOSE BASTARDS!!

FACT: This is like the saddest and most emotional moment evar in any game evar.
FACT #2: It’s even more tragic and tear-inducing than when Aeris died.
FACT #3: I <s>laughed</s> cried for at least like 5 minutes after this super tragic scene.

No fucking kidding.

WTF just happened?

I found it funny that she didn’t even mention or grieve at all for the other scientist chick that died in there with daddy.

What about daddy?

Anyway, we have to get out of here. They’ll be coming for us next. We’ve got to evacuate now!

End of Part 16.



This was a very emotionally exhausting episode. It's gonna take me a while to recover...

 

[Pliskin]

Ya know, I seriously get the impression the onliest reason Daddy Neeson had a kid was because he missed not having a graduate student to push around. Seriously, could they come up with any more lame-ass go-fer tasks for you to do? "Hey kid, fetch me a cup of coffee --- oh, and mind the mutated orcs in the break room!"

Funny thing is, if you wander around the Jefferson Memorial basement prior to this sequence, and try to interact with the fuse box, a pop-up screen tells you: "You cannot use this now" or some such shite. Yay for artificial limits! My character can defuse a 200 yr-old nuclear weapon first thing out of the Vault, but he can't plug in a fucking fuse???? (Speaking of which, Explosives Skill needed to defuse nuke: 25. Explosives Skill needed to defuse baby carriage bomb: 60. See a disconnect there?)

FACT 2: Everybody in that oh-so-tragic death scene will be alive and kicking once you reach the Enclave base. (Even that lab assistant chick --- she goes over to the other side). Everybody but Daddy Neeson, that is. I guess Daddy Neeson didn't take the Rad Resistance perk like everybody else...

 

[Black]

The way doctor Li expresses her (his?) grief and surprise amazes me.

 

[Pliskin]

I put on my hat with glittering gems of hatred...

^@EV, Thing is even when they stole the system they managed to fuck it up. Most stats are highly irrelevant, tag skills are irreleveant, the skill % cap at 100 fucks it all up (you can max them all with a little care before you hit the level cap), traits are no more and perks are mostly +5% to this skill and 5% to that. So yeah, you steal a good system (although it needed some balancing imo) and strip away all the posibilities it gave.

It's the SPECIAL system in name only. As you point out, stats have little to no value. There are no skill checks. Either you can / can't do something. Hacking / Lockpicking skills are merely cut-off points for mini-games. You can hack somebody down with three strikes from a sword with an Melee Weapons skill of 10 just as well as at 100. VATS is a slo-mo God Mode. All the negative trade-offs in perks have been removed.

There is very little gameplay in "Fallout 3". (Which, admittedly, might actually have worked if there was a decent story / dialogue / NPC interaction to keep you interested. But there ain't. Not even close). It fails as a RPG and as a FPS. Quite an accomplishment.

It's the "Oblivion" hiking simulator with guns. Full of choices, and no consequences. Just the way 12-yr-old AADD consoletards wanted it.

 

[Clockwork Knight]

JESUS CHRIST, these guys really need to learn to distinguish fantasy from science fiction.
Oh wow. I thought this Harold rape thing was more of a joke/exaggeration, but alas, it totally wasn't. Look! They even have druids! Muahahaha. Morbid curiosity (clicking this thread) paid off once again.

I'm playing it now and it's not like that. It's not because my "standards are lower" (I'm not a console kiddie, if it matter that much), I just dont see anything that bad.

Like Fallout was high literature before

As a game, it's okay. It doesn't stimulate my enormous <s>prostate</s> brain, but if I wanted that, I wouldn't be playing a game.

You can pretend the previous games were 100% serious, if that makes you feel better.

 

[Hoaxmetal]

Like Fallout was high literature before

It was better before still.

As a game, it's okay. It doesn't stimulate my enormous prostate brain, but if I wanted that, I wouldn't be playing a game.

I have to agree that many people who defend Fallout 1&2 make it sounds like it's some thing for highly intelligent people and whatnot. It's simply not stupid or trying too hard to be funny, unlike this installement in Fallout franchise.

 

[MetalCraze]

Like Fallout was high literature before

As a game, it's okay. It doesn't stimulate my enormous <s>prostate</s> brain, but if I wanted that, I wouldn't be playing a game.

You can pretend the previous games were 100% serious, if that makes you feel better.

Fallout 1 was like a very hard intelligence test that only a man with einstein-level IQ could complete compared to this piece of shit that only retards enjoy - is it a coincidence?

 

[Hoaxmetal]

Fallout 1 was like a very hard IQ test that only a man with einsteinian brain can complete compared to this piece of shit that only retards enjoy - is it a coincidence?

Compared - maybe. But as different games - not really. Same thing with PST, it's very good and is kind of intelligent but again, not quantum physics as some wish to call it.

 

[MetalCraze]

This is kinda a sequel. It even has "Fallout" written before 3 for some reason. Though Fallout's setting was a post-apocalyptic world, not a fantasy for children.

 

[Hoaxmetal]

Technically it's a high-point in Fallout franchise with most copies sold, uber ratings everywhere and praise from thousand of fucktards. Completely different company making game/whatever isn't a true sequel to me - especially when they obviously have no interest in first games.

 

[Clockwork Knight]

Though Fallout's setting was a post-apocalyptic world,

GRIMDARK

I love the setting, the gameplay and all, but it's pulpy (which is good, as that was the intention). And as a game, it wasn't hard at all - I died 3 times at most, and that's due to freak 300 damage critical hits.

The story/setting/gameplay wasn't hard too, my little brother and cousins (I even got my CD back, god knows how) didn't have any problems understanding it.

I have to agree that many people who defend Fallout 1&2 make it sounds like it's some thing for highly intelligent people and whatnot. It's simply not stupid or trying too hard to be funny, unlike this installement in Fallout franchise.

I agree 100% with that. Still, it's silly when


Black Isle: "blah blah shit blah blah his name's Bob!"

Codex: "LOL SO QUIRKY"

-

Bethesda: "blah blah same shit blah blah his name's Bob!"

Codex: "CHARACTER RAPE"

but enough, I don't want to derail the thread <s>any more</s>

 

[MetalCraze]

Didn't somebody already point out in this thread to you that Fallout 2 is pretty much hated for its retarded shit? Or did you miss that yet another FO1 vs. FO2 topic?
Ah you must mean those teenage next-gen codexers.

 

[Hoaxmetal]

Didn't somebody already point out in this thread to you that Fallout 2 is pretty much hated for its retarded shit?

F2 is hated for its retarded shit, F3 is hated for its retarded shit but I dislike only one of those games, figures.

 

[Clockwork Knight]

Nice, but it applies to 1 too.

"JOINDIEJOIN generic unity rant DIEJOINDIE"

"you're a poopy head"

"shoot, better kill myself"


Codex: "best.villain.EVER"

-

President Eden pulls the exactly same shit:

Codex:":Facepalm:"

inb4 someone oversimplifies Eden and overcomplexiflies the Master

 

[MetalCraze]

If you can't see a difference between Master and a very lame ripoff that is Eden you're pretty retarded. There is nothing to oversimplify - Brother None posted dialogues and reasoning related to him in this very thread. You can take a look at them for the sake of education and then compare to the same things related to Master - it certainly didn't take 3 short sentences to made him go from having a strong opinion to "ah well ok I see your point total stranger, I'll kill myself lulz"

 

[DefJam101]

I have to agree that many people who defend Fallout 1&2 make it sounds like it's some thing for highly intelligent people and whatnot. It's simply not stupid or trying too hard to be funny, unlike this installement in Fallout franchise.

I agree 100% with that. Still, it's silly when


Black Isle: "blah blah shit blah blah his name's Bob!"

Codex: "LOL SO QUIRKY"

-

Bethesda: "blah blah same shit blah blah his name's Bob!"

Codex: "CHARACTER RAPE"

Because it's not possible that F2 Bob was quirky and F3 Bob was character rape?

 

[Secretninja]

Clockwork Knight, I detect much butthurt within you.

 

[Clockwork Knight]

Because it's not possible that F2 Bob was quirky and F3 Bob was character rape?

No because they're the same thing

as usual

sure, it just took 3 paragraphs for a total stranger to convince him.

you can reason until it reaches a LARPing point, but it's the same thing.

A valid complaint would be that 3 didn't change anything.

Clockwork Knight, I detect much butthurt within you.

Ha, I knew it would soundlike that. But no Codex, you are the butthurts. Van Buren's death was tough for everyone, but this is just sad. It won't bring him back, stop hurting yourself.