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Elder Scrolls Will the Elder Scrolls 6 have more depth than Morrowind

Can it get worse

  • No

    Votes: 32 13.2%
  • Yes

    Votes: 193 79.8%
  • No but it wont get much better

    Votes: 17 7.0%

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Bethesda never made RPGs, they made poorly disguised open world adventure games with shitty combat systems and admittedly a pretty fun magic and alchemy system (a long time ago).
If you can max out every attribute and skill, it's not an RPG. It invalidates any and all character building choices except racial abilities and birthsigns.
 

Generic-Giant-Spider

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Just got off the phone with Todd Howard, some notes:

-He has been keeping tabs on Obsidian's Avowed and assures, "Not even in the same fuckin' league" as a Bethesda title. Refers to Josh Sawyer as a weiner-schnitzel. Had trouble saying it due to constantly laughing, took three attempts.

-Says that TESVI will be "an intricate marriage of The Elder Scrolls franchise", when asked to elaborate he merely responded with, "You'll see. You'll all see."

-The Microsoft deal was less of helping a struggling company and more of a "meeting of the titans." Claims Bethesda is on the same level as Jesus Christ "if he owned a company."

-When asked about the RPG mechanics of TESVI he merely laughed and told me, "You ask a lot for an interviewer." I don't know what that means.

-Wishes everyone a merry Christmas and to stay in your vaults.
 
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The only good thing that comes out of Bethesda games are porn mods anyways. I'd be interested to see the % of Skyrim PC players who have at least one porn/nudity mod installed.

I'm going to wildly assume it's upwards of 50%.

They should just bring nudity back. Really, they should have done that with Skyrim since unlike Morrowind and Oblivion they weren't going for a Teen. Post-Cyberpunk 2077 there doesn't seem to be any reason not to do nudity, now there's a clear high profile example of what you can do without getting a AO rating.

Not opposed to it but when the novelty of tits and dicks wears off after 10 minutes, you're still stuck playing a shitty game.

I didn't say I'd be playing it. Anyways, novelty is all Betheada Game Studios games have, they may as well pack as much of it in as they can. There's lots of stuff they should be doing to make their games better, some of which would probably involve bringing in outside help to make things like combat not total shit; but just adding nudity is a very simple thing they can do that'd at least be interesting.

I kind of doubt they'd do this, but given how unlike when they made Oblivion and Skyrim they don't have some other big at the moment fantasy series to fall back on aesthetically, they should just fall back on the pulp fantasy aesthetic they once had in Daggerfall. It's the kind of thing that would visually set them apart from basically every other fantasy game made. Although looking up Hammerfall just now, if ever there was a time to fall back on that pulp fantasy of Frank Frazetta and Esteban Maroto then Hammerfall's vast desert seems like a good place for it.
 

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Combat in Morrowind was shit. It should have been more actiony given the game takes the language of an action game where you have direct control over a character but then slaps the rules of something like Diablo onto it. Morrowind's non abstract control mechanics mixed with the rules of a abstract system, and how it was all presented to the player was a terrible mix that didn't work.

1) Despite it's controls, Morrowind is very much a cRPG, yes the controls are that of traditional 3D action games but nothing else in the game's mechanics and design is

2) Plus even the controls are just a simplified version of Daggerfall's controls and overall they're what you find in Ultima Underworld, System Shock 2 and Arx Fatallis - you do you also want to argue that these cRPG's would be better off if they had embraced more Action mechanics?

3) Morrowind had been in development since 1997 and came out in May 2002 (being already delayed before this date); the first good 3D Brawlers (DMC, Onimusha and Severance) all came out in 2001, so there was no way, time, nor money a primarily RPG dev could've come up and implement a new and massively different combat system, requiring vast amounts of technical (good animation ain't easy yo) and design modifications
 
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Dead ass thread, I raise thee from the grave to once again haunt the dreams of those foolish enough to have read it.

You think it can't get worse?

You remember the iconic posterboy from Skyrim? The Dragonborn Nord?

In TES 6, it will be a Redguard woman.
 

Drakortha

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I seem to recall Todd once saying in an interview that Skyrim would be a return to form and be more like Morrowind, and look how that went. Gameinformer interview, I think? I'm too lazy to source it. But I remember calling Bullshit back then. If Bethesda couldn't pull it off in 2011 they never will.
 

Yosharian

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Starfield got some flak didn't it? Maybe todd will try a bit harder this time.
Are you joking? It sold very well and all the criticism was deflected as 'just buy a new PC' or 'space is meant to be boring'

Time to face facts, Todd and Bethesda in general don't give a shit, they are driving around in their brand new yachts & sportscars that they bought from the sales of SF and they think it's absolutely hilarious that people who still play videogames are upset about stuff like writing and shooting mechanics

The idea that millionaire game devs care about what the average PC gamer thinks is laughable

In another 5 years they'll deliver some new slop for the console gamers to shove down their cheeto-encrusted holes, or they'll retire to go fuck supermodels on a beach in some tax haven somewhere, either way they won and gaming lost
 

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It will be shit.
It will be no Arena, Daggerfall or Morrowind, they will most certainly do some half-assed sandbox, "open world" theme park and call it a day...
 

Zed Duke of Banville

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Having learned from the mistakes of Starfield, The Elder Scrolls VI: Daggerrim will be the second coming of Todd Howard.


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Machocruz

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Unless their attitude towards itemization has changed, ES will continue being shit. Oblivion made playing a thief completely worthless, and Skyrim was no better.
 

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Whatever they do for the love of fuck please remove the braindead ass dialogue options for the PC. I don't want my Dunmer PC being forced to ask what House Redoran is and the like. All the Skyrim dialogue was basically written entirely out of character from the perspective of some zoomer who never player an Elder Scrolls. Absolutely zero opportunity for roleplay other than dressup.
 

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Whatever they do for the love of fuck please remove the braindead ass dialogue options for the PC. I don't want my Dunmer PC being forced to ask what House Redoran is and the like. All the Skyrim dialogue was basically written entirely out of character from the perspective of some zoomer who never player an Elder Scrolls. Absolutely zero opportunity for roleplay other than dressup.
But they want voice acting, right?
I would prefer a return to Morrowind's topics list. You choose from a number of topics to ask about and you have other dialogue options.
Text based, also some voice acting thrown in.
 

gurugeorge

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Strap Yourselves In
Whatever they do for the love of fuck please remove the braindead ass dialogue options for the PC. I don't want my Dunmer PC being forced to ask what House Redoran is and the like. All the Skyrim dialogue was basically written entirely out of character from the perspective of some zoomer who never player an Elder Scrolls. Absolutely zero opportunity for roleplay other than dressup.
But they want voice acting, right?
I would prefer a return to Morrowind's topics list. You choose from a number of topics to ask about and you have other dialogue options.
Text based, also some voice acting thrown in.

Topics highlights are one of the newfangled modern innovations that I heartily approve of. The lore dump is there if I want it, but I can ignore it and return to it later if I'm bang into the immersion of the moment.
 

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I'm wondering whether the obligatory sodomy will be a good thing, if we're going to Hammerfell. Sodomy bad. Coons bad. But coons sodomizing and "marrying" each other's buttholes would solve at least 52% of all problems in the long run. Then again, I guess there will be Bretons too, so it's probably more bad than good.

This is not healthy thinking.
 

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