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World of Warcraft: Dragon Desperation

Hobknobling

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That character model and especially the "wheelchair" is completely nonsensical and creatively bankrupt. Why would a character that has wings sit in a chair like that? Just awful.

Virtue signaling aside, showing the results of war is something that is quite lackluster in many fantasy worlds.
 

J1M

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That character model and especially the "wheelchair" is completely nonsensical and creatively bankrupt. Why would a character that has wings sit in a chair like that? Just awful.

Virtue signaling aside, showing the results of war is something that is quite lackluster in many fantasy worlds.
They have greater heal and resurrection magic.
 

Keshik

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That character model and especially the "wheelchair" is completely nonsensical and creatively bankrupt. Why would a character that has wings sit in a chair like that? Just awful.

Virtue signaling aside, showing the results of war is something that is quite lackluster in many fantasy worlds.
They have greater heal and resurrection magic.
Azeroth doesn't have universal healer care, I guess. That good stuff you mentioned is just for the 1%.
 
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Hilarity of the bullshit aside, I'm astounded by how bad the game looks. The game received a graphical overhaul in cataclysm and it looks slightly worse now as it lost the crispness of the cataclysm aesthetics that tried to stay true to the original WoW art.
They've managed to spend WoW's profits on everything except improving the game.
 

Mary Sue Leigh

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It's high fantasy though, does it have to be a "war-crafted" crappy looking wheelchair?
They're also creatively bankrupt.
I'd have preferred some kind of flying disc of Tzeentch, or Murloc slaves carrying me around or at least a goblin mech exoskeleton, I mean come on, at least do something interesting with the concept.
 

Keshik

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This cuck was ranting and raving over Blizzard's shitty behaviour towards their employees, customers, Diablo Immoral but lo and behold now he slurps Daddy Kodicks dick again. What a pathetic piece of shit.


Then will switch to Daily Mail-esque outrage farming after release. Not sure why people still bother with him.
 

Ravielsk

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Then will switch to Daily Mail-esque outrage farming after release. Not sure why people still bother with him.
Just like with WoW its all vestigial fame. At one point he was making meaningful stuff and became a "household name" when it comes to WoW so if you search for anything related to WoW the algorithm is going to push him onto your frontpage.
 

Ravielsk

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Other than the lack of facial expression, seems ok.
That was some wishful thinking.
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The worst part is how this reveals how off kilter the devs really are when it comes to the tone of the game. Warcraft was always just warhammer light. Less grimdark and more digestible for the average person but still dark. The gnolls were somewhat goofy but there was always something sinister in their design. They never were Warcraft's comedy central. Why else would they have their tents stitched out of human skin?
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By turning them into said comedy central they inevitably made the world so much less interesting and flatter because now instead of having that layer of darkness that justifies them as enemies and a problem that... well is an actual problem and not a meme they have a one note joke.
 

J1M

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You just have to get used to the idea that the average forum user here not only cares more about the game, but now also better understands the history, setting, tone, and game design of it than the average employee working on it does. That is not hyperbole. It is plainly evident when you listen to the devs talk.
 

J1M

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So they admitted it was bad. I wonder how much someone at Blizzard HQ is seething and dilating right now.
 

Keshik

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If I were them I honestly would just do stuff like this to screw with the players while game is in alpha, hah.
 

J1M

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When people like this work on the game, it wouldn't surprise me if it was on someone's deranged agenda to turn the deadliest mob in WoW history into a "white male".
 
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Their second crack at Hogger

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still looks stupid, they just used the oldest shit developer trick in the book to make you think it's good

1. make something terrible
2. tell fans you fixed it by releasing something mediocre, receive undue praise
 
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game developers are truly some of the worst lifeforms that exist, only a few things are below them like video game journalist
 

Keshik

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When people like this work on the game, it wouldn't surprise me if it was on someone's deranged agenda to turn the deadliest mob in WoW history into a "white male".

Don't think I'd say Roux works on the game, she does the novels for it, as opposed to say, Golden who is a whole other problem.
 

J1M

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When people like this work on the game, it wouldn't surprise me if it was on someone's deranged agenda to turn the deadliest mob in WoW history into a "white male".

Don't think I'd say Roux works on the game, she does the novels for it, as opposed to say, Golden who is a whole other problem.
Please stop pretending that the danger-hairs she leveraged via nepotism to get her role have vastly different world-views.
 

J1M

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game developers are truly some of the worst lifeforms that exist, only a few things are below them like video game journalist
The most disgusting thing about the game industry is when game designers recite the mantra of how they can't listen directly to player feedback because players aren't sophisticated designers like they are... and then they turn around and start soliciting game journalists for design feedback.
 

RaggleFraggle

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You just have to get used to the idea that the average forum user here not only cares more about the game, but now also better understands the history, setting, tone, and game design of it than the average employee working on it does. That is not hyperbole. It is plainly evident when you listen to the devs talk.
Blizz is one of the reasons why I’m critical of the entire concept of lore. At least until Star Wars, Star Trek, and MCU started falling apart, WoW was the highest profile example of a lore falling apart under the creators of said lore… so new writers never stood a chance.
 

Ravielsk

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You just have to get used to the idea that the average forum user here not only cares more about the game, but now also better understands the history, setting, tone, and game design of it than the average employee working on it does. That is not hyperbole. It is plainly evident when you listen to the devs talk.
Blizz is one of the reasons why I’m critical of the entire concept of lore. At least until Star Wars, Star Trek, and MCU started falling apart, WoW was the highest profile example of a lore falling apart under the creators of said lore… so new writers never stood a chance.
Honestly I feel that the whole WoW lore situation is similar to Avatar where the guys who get the most credit for writting the series were basically only handling background details and the actual writer responsible for the important parts is forgotten. I suspect something similar happened with Metzen because after WoW his writing literary went down the shitter. In Vanilla the Onyxia and Nefarian story is written as a multi-level plot that is in plain sight from level one but resolves only at level 60 and even then its resolution is not that "Onyxia did it all" but that Onyxia was simply exploiting flaws already present and simply exacerbated them. In TBC he re-wrote the one character explicitly made to be morally ambiguous into a mental muhaha villian and his only explanation for it was "well he went crazy you know". Same in every expansion he has written where it was basically highschooler tier fan-finction(remember green jesus?).

I suspect that a lot of "his" early work was not really his but I do not care enough to figure out who actually did it but I am almost certain it was not Metzen.
 
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VanCleef is easily one of the better written "villains" not just in WoW but easily ranks up there with the best video game villains.
And he's not even a villain. He just wanted what they owed him. You're basically sent to kill a guy who was angry the crown(or nobles or w/e, its been a while) refused to pay his people for their services. Services that were rendered in a time of dire need at that.
 
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abija

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So "auto" tab target gets called "action combat" by that inane person in the video and then you turn it into "action camera"?
 

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