World of warcraft: Shadowlands announced

[rusty_shackleford]

Here's your CONTENT, bro. It's unlisted now.

I know I'm like 10-15 years late to this but jesus christ how did the art style end up so badly? There's one thing to be cartoony but this shit is on a different level.

outsourcing work to the same people who make shitty mobile chinese MMOs

 

[Manjuice Nutella]

And employing leftist dangerhair millenials

 

[J1M]

ANNOUNCEMENT: Player counts have dropped to a point where they will finally listen to someone who isn't a journalist or a streamer (maybe)

https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/introducing-the-world-of-warcraft-community-council/1124908

Sign-up link: https://forms.office.com/r/2BfVmv2d44

Rumor has it you'll be picked if your application includes the phrase "as a non-binary non-gamer..."

 

[Malamert]

Blizzard will just select the biggest cocksucking drones to fellate them on a special forum and only discuss the most trivial, safest and uninteresting nonsense imaginable. So it's literally fucking nothing, just more circlejerking.

 

[J1M]

Here's your CONTENT, bro. It's unlisted now.

I know I'm like 10-15 years late to this but jesus christ how did the art style end up so badly? There's one thing to be cartoony but this shit is on a different level.

outsourcing work to the same people who make shitty mobile chinese MMOs

I wonder how many of these they sell to people on 6-month subscriptions that they forgot to cancel. I think the number is probably high enough that they would create store mounts even if people who don't play anymore were the only ones to buy them.

 

[Avarize]

ANNOUNCEMENT: Player counts have dropped to a point where they will finally listen to someone who isn't a journalist or a streamer (maybe)

https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/introducing-the-world-of-warcraft-community-council/1124908

Sign-up link: https://forms.office.com/r/2BfVmv2d44

Rumor has it you'll be picked if your application includes the phrase "as a non-binary non-gamer..."

In my experience the casual playerbase (majority) are wokists.

 

[Reever]

ANNOUNCEMENT: Player counts have dropped to a point where they will finally listen to someone who isn't a journalist or a streamer (maybe)

https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/introducing-the-world-of-warcraft-community-council/1124908

Sign-up link: https://forms.office.com/r/2BfVmv2d44

Rumor has it you'll be picked if your application includes the phrase "as a non-binary non-gamer..."

I think I had a better microphone when I was 12 and buying 5$ headphones than whatever Ion has.
Anyway, I doubt this will change anything. 15 years of feedback didn't tell them that WoW is in a constant state of decline. Why would this council be any different?

 

[mediocrepoet]

They want to hear about all the ways whatever's left in their sanitized game still hurts your feelings. Not how the dumbed down mechanics and cookie cutter builds have made it more fulfilling to play Candy Crush.

 

[J1M]

They want to hear about all the ways whatever's left in their sanitized game still hurts your feelings. Not how the dumbed down mechanics and cookie cutter builds have made it more fulfilling to play Candy Crush.

The real irony of people complaining about cookie cutter builds is that vanilla was not a solved game by the time TBC came out. A decade of private server experimentation led to things like fury warrior raid tanks.

The community is just complaining about its own social dynamics that enforce build expectations.

 

[mediocrepoet]

They want to hear about all the ways whatever's left in their sanitized game still hurts your feelings. Not how the dumbed down mechanics and cookie cutter builds have made it more fulfilling to play Candy Crush.

The real irony of people complaining about cookie cutter builds is that vanilla was not a solved game by the time TBC came out. A decade of private server experimentation led to things like fury warrior raid tanks.

The community is just complaining about its own social dynamics that enforce build expectations.

This thing is about retail not classic, is it not? If so, how is your post relevant given the various talent pruning the game has gone through over the years leading to it being a shadow of its former self and still having cookie cutter builds, to the extent you can have a build at all anymore? This feels like a non sequitur to me.

 

[J1M]

They want to hear about all the ways whatever's left in their sanitized game still hurts your feelings. Not how the dumbed down mechanics and cookie cutter builds have made it more fulfilling to play Candy Crush.

The real irony of people complaining about cookie cutter builds is that vanilla was not a solved game by the time TBC came out. A decade of private server experimentation led to things like fury warrior raid tanks.

The community is just complaining about its own social dynamics that enforce build expectations.

This thing is about retail not classic, is it not? If so, how is your post relevant given the various talent pruning the game has gone through over the years leading to it being a shadow of its former self and still having cookie cutter builds, to the extent you can have a build at all anymore? This feels like a non sequitur to me.

The output delta between good and bad builds is much smaller now than it was in vanilla. It's a social issue and always has been. My point was illustrating that there was more depth to the original talent system than people thought that was unexplored due to "only this one build is viable" thinking.

 

[mediocrepoet]

They want to hear about all the ways whatever's left in their sanitized game still hurts your feelings. Not how the dumbed down mechanics and cookie cutter builds have made it more fulfilling to play Candy Crush.

The real irony of people complaining about cookie cutter builds is that vanilla was not a solved game by the time TBC came out. A decade of private server experimentation led to things like fury warrior raid tanks.

The community is just complaining about its own social dynamics that enforce build expectations.

This thing is about retail not classic, is it not? If so, how is your post relevant given the various talent pruning the game has gone through over the years leading to it being a shadow of its former self and still having cookie cutter builds, to the extent you can have a build at all anymore? This feels like a non sequitur to me.

The output delta between good and bad builds is much smaller now than it was in vanilla. It's a social issue and always has been. My point was illustrating that there was more depth to the original talent system than people thought that was unexplored due to "only this one build is viable" thinking.

Ah I see, thanks for the clarification. Yeah, it's true that at least various things are viable in modern WoW. It's one of the improvements of the game, though the pruning of the talent trees, etc. is still a travesty.

 

[Avarize]

If you play the wrong build you are usually only 10-15% than you would otherwise be. Exceptions do exist like fire mage in Nyalotha. Probably the most recent major cases of something remaining unsolved for a time was it only becoming apparent to the community in Battle for Dazar'alor that a certain demo lock build was by far the best spec in the game only after the top guilds had already cleared (we got rank 56 iirc and our locks only played demo on the first farm kill). Another one would be blood dks playing a wrong talent for all of Legion, but that was only a ~3% survivability decrease.

 

[Rilmani404]

The internet never, ever, runs out of surprises. If only the surprises had some originality rather than being an echo of MoP, WoD, and BfA removals. Is this what a cancer survivor feels like, after getting told for like the 6th time “yep, you aren’t ‘clean’ anymore. Need to start up chemo again in the same spot.”

Y’know what is weird? This means a Shadowlands private server might get setup someday.

 

[rusty_shackleford]

"endgame" was a mistake

 

[Larianshill]

So, 9.2 is the last patch of Shadowlands.

 

[Caim]

But will it be the last patch of WoW?

 

[Larianshill]

They'll never stop milking that cow, just make expansions with progressively less content in them. Customization was a major selling point of Shadowlands, really, the only actually new thing they added, and it amounted to basically nothing.

 

[Caim]

Didn't Shadowlands' customization end up being stuck behind a grind, with you being unable to do the other three grinds on the same character?

 

[Larianshill]

By character customization, I mean appearance.

It might look impressive, but it's actually very barebones - nothing compared to WoD's complete remodelling of every player race, and it's not like WoD's even a feature heavy expansion.

 

[Ravielsk]

A few months ago there was a rumor on 4chin about Blizzard dissolving and WoW going into maintenance mode. By the looks of it the part about WoW was spot on, I seriously cannot see this game going through any kind of recovery at this point. Maybe a minor uptick when Woltk classic comes out but only a really minor one.

 

[Malamert]

At some point during Legion, or possibly even earlier, Blizzard downgraded their servers quite a bit. Pretty sure they can keep this rubbish on permanent maintenance mode and still make a good deal from it. The "people" that only play WoW will keep it afloat for decades to come thanks to the cash shop.

 

[Comte]

 

[fizzelopeguss]

It's finally happened, not even the art team can carry them this time.

 

[Popiel]

Just let it rest in peace already for fuck's sake. It's getting literally depressing.

 

[Manjuice Nutella]

ANNOUNCEMENT: Player counts have dropped to a point where they will finally listen to someone who isn't a journalist or a streamer (maybe)

https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/introducing-the-world-of-warcraft-community-council/1124908

Sign-up link: https://forms.office.com/r/2BfVmv2d44

Rumor has it you'll be picked if your application includes the phrase "as a non-binary non-gamer..."

In my experience the casual playerbase (majority) are wokists.

All the based people are in ESO, roasting simps on zone chats, and announcing Altmer support Democrats and Biden is a worshipper of Molag Bal.