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World of warcraft: Shadowlands announced

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I don't follow this game for many years now but this just popped up in my reddit feed. Now I feel safe about the game's future!

https://nitter.net/Wowhead/status/1513611177259114500
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The level of cognitive dissonance required to believe WoW isn't a dumpsterfire just so your political beliefs aren't shattered by reality must be off the charts.
 

abija

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It's not. Atm bliz is in "implement something from the large backlog of qol improvements that totally make sense but we just save for emergency" mode. So he thinks it's due to firing "toxic rockstar" devs.
 
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I have no problem with the idea of having a diverse workforce, in fact I think that, provided you are hiring qualified individuals, it’s an undeniable boon for certain industries (e.g. law, non-profit fundraising, healthcare). I’m skeptical that game dev gets all that much benefit from it, but beyond that, hasn’t WoW been experiencing diminishing returns both critically and commercially for like 5 xpacs now? Insisting you’re focused on the right things in that context has some serious “we have always been at war with EastAsia” vibes.
 

Norfleet

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If I wanted to "diversify" my staff in a male-dominated environment, I'd just ask some of them to volunteer to be women. I mean, what even is a woman? Problem solved.
 

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Blizzard should have more diversity in their staff so that they can get people who actually do their job instead of molesting their coworkers and stealing their milk.
 

Kem0sabe

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It's not just wow, all these MMO's have turned to shit. Look at the most popular MMORPG right now, FFXIV, they just updated the game to allow players to solo a bunch of dungeons and group content related to the main quest, with the intention of adding it to the rest of the game.

If you play MMO's as single player RPGs, then you might as well play the free to play ones like ESO or Old republic.
 

Cromwell

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they just updated the game to allow players to solo a bunch of dungeons and group content related to the main quest, with the intention of adding it to the rest of the game.

given that in these games nobody is talking to you anyways theres no difference if you do it with bots or "real people". Its pretty much the same as before.
 
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It's not just wow, all these MMO's have turned to shit. Look at the most popular MMORPG right now, FFXIV, they just updated the game to allow players to solo a bunch of dungeons and group content related to the main quest, with the intention of adding it to the rest of the game.

If you play MMO's as single player RPGs, then you might as well play the free to play ones like ESO or Old republic.

The very nature of themepark MMOs is that they are effectively singleplayer games anyway. FFXIV adding trusts is the devs acknowledging how the game is actually played "do quests by yourself". People who want actual MMOs are playing games like Ultima Online or a SWG emulator.
 
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The problem with these games is that they label themselves MMOs. Nobody would care if they were simply labeled something like persistent cooperative RPGs or somesuch.
 

Bigg Boss

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Back when fast travel meant you were riding a mount thirty minutes somewhere. Yeah I used to like MMO's.
 

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Back when fast travel meant you were riding a mount thirty minutes somewhere. Yeah I used to like MMO's.

MMOs used to mean a huge simulated world that you could travel around and see a crazy epic journey of a scope that you didn't get in single player RPGs. Now it's more like a strapped in roller coaster that parades you past all the sites and spectacles while you either play by yourself or in a group where some dickhead yells about how your group sucks and you have to play politics over loot. Meanwhile, open world games have brought the huge worlds you could run around and see to offline games.
 

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