Yet Another Morrowind Thread

[lukaszek]

if orc reaches 100% resist magicka, does it counter agillity drain from berzerk power?

 

[Brujoloco]

if orc reaches 100% resist magicka, does it counter agillity drain from berzerk power?

That is an amazing question. Sadly I rarely play anything but Argonians so my orc mechanics/knowledge is close to NIL .

Now from what I know Resist Magicka will protect faithfully from everything but elemental damage, poison and paralyze, so technically agility drain should be cancelled.

I rarely play like that anymore though as I use patches and mods that limit anything above 100 and create hardcaps on certain effects to avoid cheesing the game, but if you can manage that in vanilla then I see no reason why it would not block the absorb effect, unless it is a drain one, dont remember at the moment of the orc racial.

The MCP patch usually fixes and negates some of these self looping mechanics though.

 

[Funposter]

if orc reaches 100% resist magicka, does it counter agillity drain from berzerk power?

Does the Orc's inherent 25% reduce the amount of Agility drained by default? If not, then the answer is no.

 

[lukaszek]

I see no reason why it would not block the absorb effect, unless it is a drain one,

it is drain

if orc reaches 100% resist magicka, does it counter agillity drain from berzerk power?

Does the Orc's inherent 25% reduce the amount of Agility drained by default? If not, then the answer is no.

get ready to have your mind blown then, I've just used console to test.

If your resist magicka is lower than 100, then you get hit by full 100 agility penalty. If you reach 100% resist, you resist drain on power cast, positive effects stay.

That along with male orc 1.35 movement speed factor and 50 starting endurance makes that race quite superior as long as heavy magic casting isnt involved right?
You can still get around that power by using marksman weapons or spears

BTW I've learnt something about leveling skills that I wasnt aware of before.
I was aware that specialisation bonus makes leveling of some skills easier. Now I know whats the factor: 0.8
What I was completely unaware that major/minor/misc groups also affects leveling speed, its multiplicative to above
major - 0.75
minor - 1.0
misc - 1.25

And here I thoughts that its just about starting bonus. Major spec skill got 0.6 factor!

 

[Funposter]

If your resist magicka is lower than 100, then you get hit by full 100 agility penalty. If you reach 100% resist, you resist drain on power cast, positive effects stay.

Figured it would work like Damage etc. and block a portion, but I guess it makes sense that Drain always works as intended until 100% resistance is achieved.

That along with male orc 1.35 movement speed factor and 50 starting endurance makes that race quite superior as long as heavy magic casting isnt involved right?

I'd say that Orc and Breton are unequivocally the best races in the game for non-magic and magic-focused builds, respectively. There really isn't much competition.

 

[grimer]

I'd say that Orc and Breton are unequivocally the best races in the game for non-magic and magic-focused builds, respectively. There really isn't much competition.

nord is the best race in the game regardless of martial/magic build preference because they only need 3 equipment slots (dragonbone cuirass, denstagmer's ring and ring of phynaster) to achieve complete immunity to elemental damage, which constitutes most hostile spells and are far more dangerous than whatever spellbook filler affected by resist magicka, effectively granting immunity to all magic. this leaves room for more enchantments to cover other weaknesses (resist paralysis), improve combat prowess (sanctuary) or for utility.

 

[Funposter]

Nord is good too, but the Frost Resistance is probably overrated since it's easily the least common of the three elements, so their biggest boon is the 50% Shock Resist. It should also be understood that all arguments about race are borderline irrelevant in the face of the Atronach birthsign and the ability to easily gain high levels of Spell Absorb. So the innate qualities (high movement speed, extra Magicka) are more useful than the Magic Resist.

 

[lukaszek]

easily gain high levels of Spell Absorb

spell absorbs do not add up. They roll separately

 

[Funposter]

easily gain high levels of Spell Absorb

spell absorbs do not add up. They roll separately

Atronach + Necro Amulet is still good enough for what, 62.5%?

 

[MWaser]

it's Morrowind, you can blast your stats out the ass and efficiency goes into the bin early on.

The only real motive for picking any race is aesthetics.

 

[lukaszek]

its all about choosing your larp levels

 

[grimer]

Spell Absorb

spell absorption doesnt protect against reflected spells unlike immunities

 

[Funposter]

Spell Absorb

spell absorption doesnt protect against reflected spells unlike immunities

Then stack Magic Resist and spam Absorb Health at all times

 

[lukaszek]

choosing right restricitons/larp is hard. My no enchanting/alchemy run started by raiding vivec vaults, getting 75 marksman from teacher, stealing daedric bow while I was at it, entering berzerk and slaying all temple guards I could find in 60s

EDIT: and if I add no trainers restriction, what would I do with money?

 

[Sigourn]

it's Morrowind, you can blast your stats out the ass and efficiency goes into the bin early on.

The only real motive for picking any race is aesthetics.

It's why I never cared much about the options available to the player. Ultimately none of them mean a shit when you are a God by level 15. And that comes quickly enough.

 

[grimer]

you are a God by level 15

yea you can really break the game as early as balmora even without exploits or metagaming because of easily obtainable overpowered items such as ravirr's bound spear, wayn's jinkblades, nalcarya's exclusive restore health potions and for the more unscrupulous players there are also galbedir's soul gems and the sword of white woe. the only way to have a modicum of challenge in this game is to play it on max difficulty ironman with numerous difficulty mods and extensive house ruling (larping).

 

[luj1]

I released two quest expansion mods these past couple of days. Hope you guys like them.

• Redoran Founder's Helm Add-on - Arena Duel.
• Guard Sarethi Manor Add-on - Morag Tong Hit Squad.

They should make these quests considerably more interesting and epic.

MT would not send 4 (four) assassins, they'd send one good one....

 

[Funposter]

choosing right restricitons/larp is hard. My no enchanting/alchemy run started by raiding vivec vaults, getting 75 marksman from teacher, stealing daedric bow while I was at it, entering berzerk and slaying all temple guards I could find in 60s

EDIT: and if I add no trainers restriction, what would I do with money?

tbh MWSE Harder Barter fixes most of the "what do I do with money?" issues because you can now afford maybe two custom CE enchantments per playthrough. I don't think there's an actual way to restrict yourself even with house rules unless you progress to the point of absurdity, basically ignoring most of the game's mechanics, assuming you mean playing 100% vanilla. A few mods and just promising yourself not to metagame is usually enough to make the game have some semblance of challenge, even if it's only early on. That's probably the other thing, actually. Even with all of the mods and house rules, try not to play past level 20 unless you're going to do expansion content or some of the high level stuff in Tamriel Rebuilt. Every playthrough needs to have a time limit.

 

[Brujoloco]

You guys play a much different Morrowind game than me thats for sure!

Reminded me of this



Any race is great to be honest if you want to be super efficient in Morrowind

 

[Brujoloco]

Even with all of the mods and house rules, try not to play past level 20 unless you're going to do expansion content or some of the high level stuff in Tamriel Rebuilt. Every playthrough needs to have a time limit.

That is why I like some of the new MWSE mods but yeah, there comes a point when you truly break the game even with mods, hence why I believe some of the MWSE mods + MCP are a must in artificially extending the gameplay to give a semblance of order to the world.

I still remember punching to death Vivec for the lulz when I was loaded with alchemy potions that broke the stats way past 100 ...

I still think that despite all of that is a truly wonderful game full of possibilities even in 2021, something the other games in the series do not give me.

Personally I think I really really like Argonians in Morrowind

 

[luj1]

The only real motive for picking any race is aesthetics.

This may be true, but only for fighters or archers.

For hybrids and pure spellcasters, if you aren't careful about max magicka, you'll end up with uncastable spells. Having 100 magicka is nothing for custom spells.

 

[lukaszek]

anyone tried mod that would allow applying poisons?

 

[Funposter]

anyone tried mod that would allow applying poisons?

The MWSE one? It works like Oblivion or Skyrim, the only quirk is that you need to specifically use the option to create poisons (shift+click or something, I don't remember) since the game won't auto-detect damaging effects and decide that it's poison instead of a potion. The damage provided from the poisons is pretty low starting out, but you can make quite a lot of them in the early game since Violet Coprinus and Luminous Russula are all over the Bitter Coast. Effects like Drain Speed also become way more useful than they ever were as Destruction spells.

 

[Invictus]

easily gain high levels of Spell Absorb

spell absorbs do not add up. They roll separately

Atronach + Necro Amulet is still good enough for what, 62.5%?

Yup, choosing Dunmer magic user with the Atronach basically makes you immune to magic fire spells, you can summon an Ancestral Spirit to fill you up in 3 fireballs
It is basically the only exploit I use but it makes my assassin and nightblade builds just so much fun

 

[normie]

MWSE 2.1 Journal Search and Edit
https://www.nexusmods.com/morrowind/mods/46756