Pathfinder Pathfinder: Kingmaker - Enhanced Plus Edition - now with turn-based combat

[Haplo]

How the fuck do you deal with Mandragora Swarms with a melee heavy party? What a retarded enemy design, but I guess in this game, it fits right in.

Painfully. Hope you took at least one nuker along (one is enough).

 

[Delterius]

How can Dark Souls and Pathfinder: Kingmaker even be compared? Makes very little sense. The games play completely differently in almost every way.

I have no idea. Porky brought it up. It'd be more apt to compare this game to the cluster fuck that is BG 2. No offense Trashos, but high level dnd gameplay is nauseating. Baldur's Gate 1 will and always be my top game of all time, rivaled only by Pathfinder, of course. Low level dnd gameplay is just so much more satisfying to play.

How dare you. High-level BG2 is so much fun.

Quick! Roll a natural 20 or be forever cursed by my spells! At least in Pathfinder I can bypass that nonsense by forcing a choke point, then having my guys perform a preemptive charge.

Alternatively I cast Time Stop and fuck your shit up before you even get to cast a spell

Which proves my point. In BG 1 I didn't have to deal with none of that high level nonsense.

typical monk splasher, cannot into High Level Magic

Delterius wishes his troubles away.

 

[Pink Eye]

Wish is actually a pretty "balanced" spell. Its effects are tied to RNG.

 

[Desiderius]

of course you have to learn it to play it

This is backwards, which is you missing the point. Your subsequent list is you being too literal.

Not about mechanics. Is about player failure (and how the player responds to it) as core element of design. Compare faceroll Deadfire.

 

[Desiderius]

typical monk splasher, cannot into High Level Magic.

He’s no mere splasher. The man is the all time master of the Quivering Reload.

 

[Trashos]

I think that once again I am ranking up slowly. There are plenty of advisors eligible, but I do not find the time. I am about to visit the Goblin village, and here is my situation:

- Rank 4: 1 advisor
- Rank 2: the rest of the early advisors
- Rank 1: recently unlocked advisor (I have unlocked just one)
- Regions acquired: Outskirts, South Narlmarches and Kamelands.

Is this OK or is it as pathetic as it looks? I am worried, because last time chapters 3&4 flew by without time for promotions.

 

[Desiderius]

I think that once again I am ranking up slowly. There are plenty of advisors eligible, but I do not find the time. I am about to visit the Goblin village, and here is my situation:

- Rank 4: 1 advisor
- Rank 2: the rest of the early advisors
- Rank 1: recently unlocked advisor (I have unlocked just one)
- Regions acquired: Outskirts, South Narlmarches and Kamelands.

Is this OK or is it as pathetic as it looks? I am worried, because last time chapters 3&4 flew by without time for promotions.

The time belongs to the rank ups/regions. You find the time for everything else. Each trip should include multiple objectives.

Which advisor you rank up is also crucial. Telling detail to leave out.

 

[Pink Eye]

typical monk splasher, cannot into High Level Magic.

He’s no mere splasher. The man is the all time master of the Quivering Reload.

It's a philosophy, it's a way of life. Only pure unfair monk players will understand.

 

[Delterius]

typical monk splasher, cannot into High Level Magic.

He’s no mere splasher. The man is the all time master of the Quivering Reload.

It's a philosophy, it's a way of life. Only pure unfair monk players will understand.

The palms are for kneeding. That is the Path of Yeast and Salt.

 

[Trashos]

I think that once again I am ranking up slowly. There are plenty of advisors eligible, but I do not find the time. I am about to visit the Goblin village, and here is my situation:

- Rank 4: 1 advisor
- Rank 2: the rest of the early advisors
- Rank 1: recently unlocked advisor (I have unlocked just one)
- Regions acquired: Outskirts, South Narlmarches and Kamelands.

Is this OK or is it as pathetic as it looks? I am worried, because last time chapters 3&4 flew by without time for promotions.

The time belongs to the rank ups/regions. You find the time for everything else. Each trip should include multiple objectives.

Which advisor you rank up is also crucial. Telling detail to leave out.

I leveled up the Councilor to Lvl4, but you guessed right: It was not a grand plan, she was just the advisor who happened to be available when I found time for promotions. At any rate, ranking up the Councilor at least allowed me to unlock the Curator.

I *am* trying to focus on rank ups/promotions, I was too slow last time. But the major events are after me. This is the point of the game that I couldn't find time for promotions last time either, that is why I am worried.

Do you have any milestones that you try to achieve regarding rank ups/new regions? Eg, "have to reach rank X for everyone before Chapter Y" or anything similar?

 

[Desiderius]

I think that once again I am ranking up slowly. There are plenty of advisors eligible, but I do not find the time. I am about to visit the Goblin village, and here is my situation:

- Rank 4: 1 advisor
- Rank 2: the rest of the early advisors
- Rank 1: recently unlocked advisor (I have unlocked just one)
- Regions acquired: Outskirts, South Narlmarches and Kamelands.

Is this OK or is it as pathetic as it looks? I am worried, because last time chapters 3&4 flew by without time for promotions.

The time belongs to the rank ups/regions. You find the time for everything else. Each trip should include multiple objectives.

Which advisor you rank up is also crucial. Telling detail to leave out.

I leveled up the Councilor to Lvl4, but you guessed right: It was not a grand plan, she was just the advisor who happened to be available when I found time for promotions. At any rate, ranking up the Councilor at least allowed me to unlock the Curator.

I *am* trying to focus on rank ups/promotions, I was too slow last time. But the major events are after me. This is the point of the game that I couldn't find time for promotions last time either, that is why I am worried.

Do you have any milestones that you try to achieve regarding rank ups/new regions? Eg, "have to reach rank X for everyone before Chapter Y" or anything similar?

Well last time I tried to get Arcane 40 in time for Womb to get Teleportation Circles up, but that’s pretty hardcore (spamming Shrines). Aviaries from Relations 40 are similarly helpful.

Probably a good general principle to try to get secondary advisors unlocked so they can start helping with Events/Warning points.

Major events shouldn’t take much time, when they show up you do them then use the subsequent 200 days for rank ups and artisans.

 

[Haplo]

I aim to at least get Teleportation Circles and Aviaries for Act 3.

 

[Silly Germans]

I typically get the brothels first to have the ovaries running in Act 3. I like to sent child adventure's to take some of the work off from my shoulders.
Ignore those that say its unethical, they enjoy it!

 

[Desiderius]

I aim to at least get Teleportation Circles and Aviaries for Act 3.

Didn't know there were Acts. What Chapter are you referring to? My goal was to get things up and running in time to get useful items for Vordokai (with an Aviary in Silvermere), immunities/bonuses for Depths, and economy strong enough to buy two Rings in Pitax (preferably with some other odds and ends).

 

[Haplo]

Acts, Chapters, whatever. I meant Varnhold /Vordakai

 

[Pink Eye]

Acts, Chapters, whatever. I meant Varnhold /Vordakai

Oooh, that makes sense.

 

[Trashos]

All right, I will try to focus on Divine-->Arcane and Community-->Relations as the next step.

One design decision that I am not on board with is the need to train the advisors who are not companions. I am not sure why this was done, it makes these advisors a pain in the ass. Last time I used Shandra, Kesten, Jhod, and the Storyteller, and I was happy with their advice, but now I am cutting down on such advisors. Unless I am missing sth, they are strictly inferior time-wise.

Maybe training should have been just 1 week long.

 

[Desiderius]

All right, I will try to focus on Divine-->Arcane and Community-->Relations as the next step.

One design decision that I am not on board with is the need to train the advisors who are not companions. I am not sure why this was done, it makes these advisors a pain in the ass. Last time I used Shandra, Kesten, Jhod, and the Storyteller, and I was happy with their advice, but now I am cutting down on such advisors. Unless I am missing sth, they are strictly inferior time-wise.

Maybe training should have been just 1 week long.

Those are mislabeled. You get the choice of any three advisors, including companions. You don't have to skip time to train them so you should be able to squeeze them in as necessary. In my Chaotic playthrough I had to let Kesten buy it so ended up with all companion advisors. They're slightly better than non-companions (who can't wear equipment) but by the time you can afford to train the non-companions they catch up.

 

[Desiderius]

So why isn't Grandmaster's Rod bypassing the Troll's Fire Immunity?

 

[deuxhero]

Grandmaster's Rod makes things ignore spell resistance and spell immunity (the unbeatable spell resistance that golems have), essentially making everything Spell Resistance:No. It does not defeat energy immunity, for which you need to change the damage type.

 

[Yosharian]

I aim to at least get Teleportation Circles and Aviaries for Act 3.

How do you even get those? Confused

 

[Pink Eye]

I aim to at least get Teleportation Circles and Aviaries for Act 3.

How do you even get those? Confused

Raise Divine to rank 3-4, I think.

 

[Pink Eye]

Desiderius I'm fixing to get myself banned from Pathfinder steam forums! This might be a perma ban. Wish me luck!

 

[ga♥]

I am playing tenebrous depth for the first time (during the main campaign). I am lvl10... is it normal to find wild hunts and ghosts wtf (fifth floor or smthing)?

 

[Desiderius]

I am playing tenebrous depth for the first time (during the main campaign). I am lvl10... is it normal to find wild hunts and ghosts wtf (fifth floor or smthing)?

You can get the cool gloves without fighting the WH dude (sixth floor). Fire giant zombies can be a challenge early too. Don’t really need much past Mesmerizing Robe (lvl 8).