Still ignoring all the "I won't let you off the mountain until you reveal your secret!" business? He's not letting us go unless he extracts something juicy from us (no way we're winning this match wiithout WQ) and aside from that we have WQ, what is there? Revealing the Fire Cult business? I don't care to do that and you don't appear to, either.Even if we lose, since Bai Jiutian now has reason to believe we don't have Wuxiang Qiankun, so he is more likely to want the Zhang manual by cooperating with us.
If Bai Jiutian were really so certain as you claim that we have the technique, then he wouldn't bother trying to get us to confirm we have it. How many times are you going to ignore this counter-point? I'm pretty sure I've mentioned it to you half a dozen times so far and you have never had a good answer.Still ignoring all the "I won't let you off the mountain until you reveal your secret!" business? He's not letting us go unless he extracts something juicy from us (no way we're winning this match wiithout WQ) and aside from that we have WQ, what is there? Revealing the Fire Cult business? I don't care to do that and you don't appear to, either.
If Bai Jiutian were really so certain as you claim that we have the technique, then he wouldn't bother trying to get proof from us in the first place. How many times are you going to ignore this counter-point?
Yes, he wants proof. Do you think one fight is proof enough to kill all of his suspicions? He said he wasn't letting us off the mountain until he'd gotten the secret out of us, so we have to let loose something reasonably juicy during his interrogation. So what is it that you intend on revealing when he beats us up? Because you entirely ignore this every time with some sort of 'eh, Jing can stand it' and 'but he'll immediately hook up with us to plot against the zhang clan!' idea that seems ludicrously optimistic even when you aren't claiming that we'll win outright.
Do you want to reveal that we had the skill and just wasted his time with a fight to obscure that, or that we are now the leader of a certain fire cult?
The fact is that Jing is not useless to Bai Jiutian. We're offering cooperation on obtaining the Xiaoming Jiuyang manual which the Zhang family will not part with and Huashan has not even told him about. Bai Jiutian is not getting it on his own, so he will need help from us to get it. In A2, that would be his best option.My problem with A2 is that Bai has been repeatedly show to be perfectly willing to snuff Jing out. If Jing is useless to Bai, then what stops Bai from executing Jing then and there in case he loses? See Heihu Valley, where after FIGHTING ON HIS DAMN SIDE for most of the battle, Bai Jiutian spies Jing and Yunzi, and once she leaves, ambushes the weakened Jing. It was only the Sword Saint and Murong Yandi showing up that stopped Bai from killing the weakened Jing.
For fuck's sake. What the hell is making you think Bai Jiutian will be so nice as to fight fair against the Wuxiang Qiankun so that he can get himself killed?You know what? DEATH TO BAI JIUTIAN!
Still A1
Time to show our power to this clown and prove WHO is the ultimate pugilist of our generation!
Neither. I want to kick his ass without using Wuxiang Qiankun, which you are too blind to admit is possible. I'm expecting a stalemate out of this for the most part, but it would work.
Enough proof to kill all his suspicions? No. He'll probably suspect, but for now this is a very strong indicator that we probably don't have a technique. That's good enough And if we don't show the Wuxiang Qiankun in a crazy dangerous fight, then he can't expect torture to somehow fucking work on us, so the interrogation would be a complete waste of time and he wouldn't do that. I have no idea why you insist he will interrogate us after A2 because if anything A2 proves there is no fucking way we're showing that we have the technique.
This is Bai Jiutian. OF COURSE HIS RHETORIC IS JUST A MASK. When has it not been?So all his rhetoric is just a mask
Entirely? No. Enough to consider working with us and get another chance of confirmation down the road? Yes.and he entirely intends to let us off the hook so long as we don't use the move against him,
Uh, no? This is a wuxia story. Stone cold badasses who can handle any amount of pain exist here. And Xu Jing has some superhuman resistance to pain. At any fucking rate, if fighting someone while risking his life doesn't make Jing reveal a technique, it's unlikely that interrogation will. I think you're just getting too focused on "disproving" A2 to consider how ridiculous you are being right now.I don't know what his interrogation method is, if it's torture or whatever else, but if you inflict half the stuff that was done to Yang Xue on anyone, even a stone cold badass I'm pretty sure the words will come flowing out.
He's not going to be best buds with us dumbass. He'd just consider a temporary truce while we work on a mutual objective.He evidently knows how to locate some of our posse-- some of which he has good reason to harm or bring in to face 'justice'-- and he could think up some ways to make us reveal things, I'm sure. I'd love to live in your world where I can assume he's just going to be best buds with us the moment he's done caving our face in and will bear no further suspicion of us, and where Jing won't tell anyone anything because he's such a badass, but I'd rather just get it over with in A. It gives BJ the confirmation that he wants, allows us to train the move, and lets us move on in our business relationship.
Some stuff to consider.
On one hand, it's unlikely that Bai Jiutian can scream for help (if he even wants to). Unless the rest of the Huashan disciples are hiding in the bushes, his shouts are not going to carry over to the next peak where the sect itself is located, a good few hours away on foot.
On the other hand, thanks to your qi-absorbing abilities, if you manage to hold out for long enough he'll likely exhaust himself before you do.
This is Bai Jiutian. OF COURSE HIS RHETORIC IS JUST A MASK. When has it not been?
Entirely? No. Enough to consider working with us and get another chance of confirmation down the road? Yes.
Uh, no? This is a wuxia story. Stone cold badasses who can handle any amount of pain exist here. And Xu Jing has some superhuman resistance to pain. At any fucking rate, if fighting someone while risking his life doesn't make Jing reveal a technique, it's unlikely that interrogation will. I think you're just getting too focused on "disproving" A2 to consider how ridiculous you are being right now.
He's not going to be best buds with us dumbass. He'd just consider a temporary truce while we work on a mutual objective.
On the other hand, thanks to your qi-absorbing abilities, if you manage to hold out for long enough he'll likely exhaust himself before you do.
That being said, treave, couldn't we theoretically mimic his techniques with order mode, use our improved swordsmanship to close the distance, then go chaos mode once we're in Unarmed range? I mean, I assume that would be Jing's plan if we decide to use Wuxiang Qiankun.
Correct me if I'm wrong, treave, but doesn't that rely on physical contact still? If he mostly fights us at the edge of a sword with us only sneaking in the occasional blow, won't that severely limit our capabilities to recharge?
Other than the fact that it's apparently doing a marvelous job of convincing you to give Bai Jiutian exactly what he wants. Although maybe the credit for that lies with you instead of treave's Bai Jiutian character.He has a public persona that he keeps up. He doesn't keep it up in our personal meetings. We have no reason to believe that he's any less serious than he says he is.
We've already made that happen in the fight so far. If we leech, even blocking will seriously weaken Bai Jiutian.Don't we have to be in hand to hand range to make use of our qi leeching? Chaos mode is cool, but it still doesn't solve our problem.