CD Projekt's Cyberpunk 2077 Update 2.0 + Phantom Liberty Expansion Thread

[Sreggin Etah I]

True because cars can't get around other vehicle somehow after being stopped by player means world is dead everything else doesn't matter, like you know actual word. Here is simple counter. Any other "open world" game out there atm is like complete wasteland compared to 77.

You need to post something other than graphics to support your claims.

btw, the cops just spawn when you commit a crime:



https://www.polygon.com/2020/12/10/...anted-cops-police-system-spawn-cd-projekt-red
yes i know it's Polygon, but anyway...

Very immersive Open world RPG indeed.

 

[Perkel]

It's ok but the weak part of the game again , at least its not a cover shooter ala gears of wars, but more life a classic like half life except the AI is not any better, no progress at all since this prehistoric era .They will stand behind cover and you can turn around them easily and slice them with a katana.

I don't get it. Why i am not experiencing any of this ? Right now i am on some scrapyard with leveled enemies playing as netrunner. Those guys don't fuck around, they straight up flank you and if you hide they search for you running after you.
AI isn't superb but it definitely tier above most of shooters let alone "shooter rpgs".

Stealth also much improved since early game as dudes cones of view are much better and they definitely can see you from far away and it is much harder to stealth your way around and break necks.

I mean look at this i recorded yesterday, you can clearly see how enemies moved up level up from ground and actively search for you also running for cover if they can, this is on hard btw (maybe ai package depends on def level ?):

You need to post something other than graphics to support your claims. btw, the cops just spawn when you commit a crime:

You mean like in every other open world game ? I mean the same thing happens in GTA. 77 "problem" is that spawning distance is pretty close compared to rest, mostly due to world being just dense not having "every road is highway" problem. Also i don't get why 77 should do what GTA does, mowing down 10s of peds and you get 1 star with response time of half a minute to minute sometimes not at all. Here seems to be design choice rather than some tech problem. They just decided mowing down peds in no go and you shouldn't even try it and if you respond to police you get in seconds second and third star and you are effectively fucked.

It reminds me "mafia is broken because you can get tickets for speeding" back in the day.

 

[racofer]

Pay attention to the cars behind you:




Next-gen graphics:

 

[Darkwind]

Any girls hotter than Judy later on or is that all we get?

Panam

You are really pushing this half-breed mulatto n-gger mutt. But your avatar probably has something to do w/ that. Just stop... You captured her best angle here. Her face ain't nothin' to write home about. THE THIRST IS REAL.

 

[catchaser]

Pay attention to the cars behind you:




Next-gen graphics:

Clearly next-gen.

 

[Necroscope]

Just to invoke even more despair, a reminder:

So, is this the game you're playing?

 

[Funposter]

Lol, I was watching Josh' stream. He goes to fight the "one mind - two bodies" NPC. It calls him a bitch. Josh suddenly assumes a very serious face expression and says "Cool it with the misogynistic slurs, thank you". I can't make out if he was serious but if yes, this looks like the result some MKULTRA-level brainwashing.

lul timestamped

yeah there's never been any value in upsetting or unsettling a viewer. never ever. not once.

Just to invoke even more despair, a reminder:

So, it this the game you're playing?

This simply adds more ammunition to my "the direction of the game was completely changed during pre-production" narrative.

 

[Lacrymas]

This was a pretty classy trailer, not gonna lie. Like the most cruel mistress, it promised you forever only to lay you down and forget you.

 

[Darkwind]

How does this shit make any sense at all? How do you heal by hiting people with gauss guns? How do you not get hurt by grenades that blow up right under your ass? Tell me! TELL ME!!!

*puts on hipster M'Lady Science is fucking awesome hat! and pulls out neckbeard*.

So you see, the gaussian stream are charged particles. What you don't know is that the particles open a direct connection with the user and target because of the smart link in the user's hand which conducts particles IN BOTH DIRECTIONs for the fraction of a second when the beam is fired. Therefore! Energy can also transfer using the Reverse Polarity Nanotech™ which will pull some energy from the user and use it to power the healing nanites at the source of the directed energy blast. Likewise our grenades use the same Nano-tech to selectively deactivate energetic reactions (read: explosions) that are in the neighborhood of the actual grenade user.

*removes outfit*

You can throw fireballs in D&D out of your hands, this is 'techno-magic' fuckery, you are waaaaaaaay overthinking this, just FYI.

 

[undecaf]

What about some actual role playing?

Don't hold your breath.

 

[Sreggin Etah I]

Yeah ! this game is a joke, and don't come with the excuse "BuT is A RpG !!!" just because it's a RPG doens't mean the world needs to be dead and devoided of any detail. Fuck ! Fallout New Vegas, Gothic and even Oblivion/Skyrim has better world NPCs than this game, GTA 3 has better traffic A.I and wanted system than this game.

 

[Reinhardt]

Penisgirl is such bleh name, try to use Dickgirl or Futanari insteadFuta V sounds better even.

dickgirl and futa are vulgar

penisgirl is cute

Why not just name xir Mohammad?

 

[Mebrilia the Viera Queen]

Why is still in general RPG?...

 

[Fenix]

While I am all about trashing games that fall down a rabbit hole of leftist horseshit, if you read the source material (full disclosure, I read this decades ago) the game actually hews fairly closely to it. The USSR is painted as a socialist utopia (at least up front), America is a declining shithole, the Japanese are resurgent, and so on. Communist iconography is all over the place.

Did source material restrict you to negro voices, mentionening of "fascists" and being able to fuck somewhat dcent girl oly of you are lesbian?

 

[taxalot]

Apparently, side quests change how many endings you can get.

Can anyone confirm there is a clearly identifiable point of no return ?

 

[MartinK]

*puts on hipster M'Lady Science is fucking awesome hat! and pulls out neckbeard*.
You can throw fireballs in D&D out of your hands, this is 'techno-magic' fuckery, you are waaaaaaaay overthinking this, just FYI.

D&D has some half assed explanations for how fireballs work in every edition, usually involving the wizards drawing the stuff straight out of the elemental plane of fire. D&D isn’t even very good at explaining its bullshit when compared to Shadowrun or Glorantha/Runequest with their coherent and easy to understand principles and rules of magic. Bitterspunk 2069 has nothing, not even your bullshit.

 

[Fenix]

Yeah, not sure about how her being a fat woman makes her automatically a bad dev.

You are just imbecile, she is not JUST fat women, she is from a SJW crowd as you ca easlily see from appearance of IT.

 

[Blaine]

Traditionally male occupations have become more balanced of late, but as long as hiring is based on merit there shouldn't be a problem.

It isn't, and that is indeed why there's a problem.

 

[Hellion]

Apparently, side quests change how many endings you can get.

Can anyone confirm there is a clearly identifiable point of no return ?

 

[Sreggin Etah I]

You mean like in every other open world game ? I mean the same thing happens in GTA. 77 "problem" is that spawning distance is pretty close compared to rest, mostly due to world being just dense not having "every road is highway" problem..

No, it doens't. I don't know about GtA V and Red Dead 2 but in older games a random wandering cop needs to spot you first, they don't just spawn immediately on you.

 

[Dishonoredbr]

Why is still in general RPG?...

I think the Infinitron/mods are busy slow this days. Maybe one day they gonna realize that this game is Action-Adventure and move this thread where belongs.

 

[Funposter]

You mean like in every other open world game ? I mean the same thing happens in GTA. 77 "problem" is that spawning distance is pretty close compared to rest, mostly due to world being just dense not having "every road is highway" problem..

No, it doens't. I don't know about GtA V and Red Dead 2 but in older games a random wandering cop needs to spot you first, they don't just spawn immediately on you.

I think older GTA games had a threshold on how much carnage you could commit in a secluded spot before the cops eventually spawned. If a wandering cop saw you though, or if you attacked one, that was an immediate wanted star. I think GTA V works broadly the same way (see: killing animals in the wilderness increasing Wanted level) but with addition of NPCs actually calling the police on their mobile phones if they see you committing crimes.

 

[Necroscope]

Just to invoke even more despair, a reminder:

So, is this the game you're playing?

This simply adds more ammunition to my "the direction of the game was completely changed during pre-production" narrative.

Probably some guy in a suit politely explained to them that a dark and honest RPG is not where games are going and that they need to hire a celebrity to sell it properly. Then the reptilian sticked out his tongue to check his environment and turned back on his chair to further study his Excel data.

 

[Gerrard]

YEAH man they should have had the racing gameplay of forza, openworld ai of gta, level design of Deus ex and system shock, shooting as crisp as in cod and storytelling like in witcher 3 and the game should have been 40 dollars.

Actually they were developing it with multiple houses, cars modding and other stuff but they run out of time. No doubt they will add it later with expansions/online mode.

8 years, you fucking retard. 8 years to make a 30 hour game.

 

[Perkel]

speaking of NuDeus Ex and 77. I noticed that 77 is better at being NuDeusex than NuDeusEx. Simply because it is more systemic and less railoady. At least from my experience with NuDeuxExes it was obvious that there was always hacking and stealth roads. Here there are "hints" of "roads" but most of the time they don't provide you full linear paths like in NuDE and you have to mix and play with systems. Moreover game doesn't provide such routes if there isn't logical reason for it which forces you to get creative with what you have. Game does include pretty decent parkour so you can definitely get creative with how you approach some missions.

On other hand in some locations it feels more like MGS5 type of gameplay than NuDE. Especially in badlands where you often can aproach from any side mission objective. So for example i had to extract some NPC from enemy camp and it basically played like MGS5, Reco, find route, figure out where to not go and find way out.

Start of the game looks bad though when it comes to cone of view for npcs, they are basically blind as mole rats and it takes way to much time for them to spot you for real. It improves a lot later on with cone view that could actually spot you from afar but that also highly depends on NPC. Snipers and elites can spot you easily but low level grunts are pretty easy to get around.

Also i really love that you do not actually need to use "crouch to stealth" which is so fucking overused and stupid in almost every game outthere with stealth and treats stealth as some "mode" you switch on off. You can easily just walk and you get around 90% of crouch stealth. You do need to use it when you want to get behind someone to get their neck.

As of netrunning gameplay it is pretty good. You get some decent options and later on game also doesn't sleep as breaching becomes a bit more complicated, costs are up and enemies are divided sometimes in 2-3 networks instead of one, moreover time to quickhack someone significantly increases forcing you to focus on one - two targets rather than on all of them i also noticed that sometimes hacks fail but idk the reason is. Investing a lot early in netrunning made game much easier but now i am having trouble taking on harder stuff that i could previously.