CD Projekt's Cyberpunk 2077 Update 2.0 + Phantom Liberty Expansion Thread

[Fedora Master]

they really really really should have gotten traffic and cars right, get it developed enough so it could support a whole realm of tuning for performance and racing on top of it

driving should be a joy

YEAH man they should have had the racing gameplay of forza, openworld ai of gta, level design of Deus ex and system shock, shooting as crisp as in cod and storytelling like in witcher 3 and the game should have been 40 dollars.

Most of all they should have made a good game.

 

[Heroic Liberator]

they really really really should have gotten traffic and cars right, get it developed enough so it could support a whole realm of tuning for performance and racing on top of it

driving should be a joy

YEAH man they should have had the racing gameplay of forza, openworld ai of gta, level design of Deus ex and system shock, shooting as crisp as in cod and storytelling like in witcher 3 and the game should have been 40 dollars.

Most of all they should have made a good game.

Which it is, so seethe more.

 

[Sreggin Etah I]

- Night City lacks any character. Regardless of the clutter it's empty and shallow. NPCs are there just to fill the screen, there's no hint of any sort of simulation running undearneath. Traffic is artificial, encounters are hand placed and static.

- Road traffic is artificial. Cars move at snail's pace and thers no AI that governs road traffic anyway.

yeah...



This game only has graphics, the world is dead.

 

[Fedora Master]

YEAH man they should have had the racing gameplay of forza, openworld ai of gta, level design of Deus ex and system shock, shooting as crisp as in cod and storytelling like in witcher 3 and the game should have been 40 dollars.

Actually they were developing it with multiple houses, cars modding and other stuff but they run out of time. No doubt they will add it later with expansions/online mode.

So we went from "But its just released!" to "But DLC will fix it!" already, huh?

 

[Galdred]

Is gunning down people better than the rythm game of The Witcher 1 and the "FPS parts, but with VATS" of Fallout 4?

 

[Fedora Master]

Is gunning down people better than the rythm game of The Witcher 1 and the "FPS parts, but with VATS" of Fallout 4?

Do you like Borderlands? Then you'll like this.

 

[Semiurge]

Lol, I was watching Josh' stream. He goes to fight the "one mind - two bodies" NPC. It calls him a bitch. Josh suddenly assumes a very serious face expression and says "Cool it with the misogynistic slurs, thank you". I can't make out if he was serious but if yes, this looks like the result some MKULTRA-level brainwashing.

Plain ol' virtue signalling. The greater the audience, the greater the duplicity.

 

[Hellion]

I'm aiming to "get along" with Silverhands on my current playthrough, and I seem to have started a questline about doing a Samurai reunion show lol. This should be fun.

 

[|NOVVAK|]

 

[IceyD]

I had zero hype for this game and couldn't tell you why it had any. People who expect open world games to be some Westworld level of immersion need a reality check into what exactly is possible with current tech/talent. And pointing to GTAV and RDR2 as the gold standard, lol. It's all janky bullshit and it will only look more like it every year that passes.

So coming into it with no expectations, it's a decent time. But I like to pile on:

• The dialogue is corny and the V performance is overacted swagger. Reminds me of Mass Effect 2's writing when any character tried to act hard. Just cringe 'fellow kids' nonsense. I mean whatever, I fast forward through it all now.
• NPCs that radio in every 5 min is awful and has the same bad dialogue, but that I can't fast forward, so yikes.

Otherwise character progression is a good time (I guess I enjoy percentage upticks to crits and damage, maybe I'm weird?), the details on the guns are incredible, and I finally notice Ray Tracing with it turned up to Psycho, which make some scenes really impressive. Scale of the city is nuts. Mission to mission gameplay is pretty painless and the setups have been unique and enjoyable. I haven't seen any recycled labs, garages or warehouses just yet. Soundtrack is pumping but admittedly a little obnoxious in combat.

I think the Borderlands comparisons to the gunplay are fair, and it's a better time without all the cheeky Reddit humor written into encounters.

Also from what I've heard from Keanu briefly in between fast forwarding everything he says, I think he's doing a decent job.

Any girls hotter than Judy later on or is that all we get?

 

[Justicar]

Any girls hotter than Judy later on or is that all we get?

Panam

 

[MartinK]

I need a cybersoy tag because I WILL defend this game against all you clueless retards.
"Tech weapons don't autofire at max charge" + "Recover hp on hitting with a fully charged tech weapon" COMPLETELY revamped my playstyle with a tech shotgun. I am able to aggressively move from close cover to close blasting down enemies while not worrying as much about losses because I heal up on my shots, I still can get flanked and tempod and rushed by enemies while I'm reloading so it makes for a fun and powerful high risk high reward playstyle.

"Immune to affects of your grenades" allowed me for kinda goofy shit flame and fire aoe nades.

How the fuck does this shit work? I know this game has mind uploading, which makes it a fantasy just like The Chronicles of Narnia, Abhorsen Trilogy, Riftwar Saga, Neon Genesis Evangelion and Star Trek. But even fantasy, at least one we consider "good", has some sort of, shall we say... internal narrative consistency. Frodo Baggins could do the smart thing and fly to Mordor on the back of those huge talking eagles and I suppose did not do so becasue the eagles were pussies, but he could not just lit his own farts using his butthole as a rocket engine and deliver the One Ring straight to Mount Doom like a cruise-fucking-missile. How does this shit make any sense at all? How do you heal by hiting people with gauss guns? How do you not get hurt by grenades that blow up right under your ass? Tell me! TELL ME!!!

 

[Perkel]

So we went from "But its just released!" to "But DLC will fix it!" already, huh?

?? What you are harping about ? Game without even those is good. If there is anything wrong with game imho it is the timeskip at start which should imho be playable. old gen console version is fucked but that is normal since consoles are for retards anyway who love "cinematic" fps.

This game only has graphics, the world is dead.

True because cars can't get around other vehicle somehow after being stopped by player means world is dead everything else doesn't matter, like you know actual word. Here is simple counter. Any other "open world" game out there atm is like complete wasteland compared to 77.

 

[Mortmal]

Is gunning down people better than the rythm game of The Witcher 1 and the "FPS parts, but with VATS" of Fallout 4?

It's ok but the weak part of the game again , at least its not a cover shooter ala gears of wars, but more life a classic like half life except the AI is not any better, no progress at all since this prehistoric era .They will stand behind cover and you can turn around them easily and slice them with a katana.

 

[Dexter]

Yeah my earlier comments about them burning up goodwill are wrong. Looking at twitter, basically anyone that mentions the bad console performance has legions of dumb fucks going "LOL SHOULDNT HAVE BOUGHT IT FOR A SHIT CONSOLE TEEHEE". And replying to complaints of bugs with moronic shit like "LOL I PUT A HUNDRED HOURS IN NO BUGS NO GLITCHES GET A BETTER PC HEHEHEHE" so it seems they've elevated themselves to Nintendo-tier where an army of anonymous goons will melt out of the shadows to performative lick CDPR's boots at you if you criticize them. lol

Sounds like AwesomeButton and a few other people ITT, I love how he went from saying he barely had ~30fps on his 1080Ti, which is better than a 2080 and puts him into the Top 4 percentiles of PC Hardware on Steam at a point where the 3000 series isn't even really available to purchase and talking about how he had upscaled his image from 1080p, changed all sorts of settings and applied filters that ironically made it look much worse:

Here is some of my performance. Like I said, stable 40s indoors and dropping to ~35 fps in crowded streets with everything maxed out at 1440p on a 1080ti. If I switch to upscaling from 1080 to 1440 I get an unpleasant blurryness. Maybe I should try dropping some settings and see if I notice the difference, but the low framerate doesn't bother me so much yet. Disabling AA from Nvidia control panel didn't seem to do anything neither to the image nor to the framerate.

To just simply stating that his "old system runs the game at 60fps in 1440p at Ultra/high" and he "doesn't know what the fuck is there to bitch about" within a few days:

This is a 6 and a half years old system with a 3 and a half years old video. It runs the game at ~60fps in 1440p at Ultra/high. I don't know what the fuck is there to bitch about.

Thanks for fighting the good fight, but why do people even bother with reddit though? If I always wanted the most boring, mainstream, NPCish normie take on every topic, I can just talk to my friends and coworkers in real life.

The main Cyberpunk Sub on Leddit is full of people's complaints about the game, claims of false Advertisement and Bug videos that have apparently now migrated there from more fringe Subs:




They apparently had to make a Circlejerk one as their Happy place to "talk about the game" without all the meanies bringing up all the Bugs, mentioning how broken it is or talking about all the negatives, which is not allowed:

https://www.reddit.com/r/LowSodiumCyberpunk/

Why is this thread on the RPG subforum?

Why are these?
https://rpgcodex.net/forums/threads/assassins-creed-origins-its-an-rpg-now.106124/
https://rpgcodex.net/forums/threads...tion-rpg-from-guerilla-games-now-on-pc.91554/
https://rpgcodex.net/forums/threads...-no-longer-designed-by-chris-avellone.122375/

 

[Justicar]

They apparently had to make a Circlejerk Sub to "talk about the game" where bringing up all the Bugs or mentioning the negatives is not allowed:

Dunno negro maybe some people are actually enjoying the game for what it is a storyfag expierience cdpr never was too good with game systems like ai so I dont know how the fuck you can expect them to make better ai than rockstar who are doing open world games for 20 years +.

 

[Sreggin Etah I]

when you realize Cyberpunk 2077 was announced before the PS4/XBOX One even came out.

 

[Inhabitants of Khorinis]

I felt like dying when

Spoiler

glados

made an appearance in one of the side missions. Absolute reddit moment. Is this 2010?

 

[Agame]

v's wacky adventures in this cyberpunk hell are weird; the intermittent bugs give the entire game a almost david lynch quality.

CDPR needed a Todd Howard singularity of charm and animal magnetism, then all of the 'bugs and broken ass shit' would be seen as endearing 'features'. It seems like Keanu "Hey guys, I'm here!" Reeves has kinda had the opposite effect.

 

[Sreggin Etah I]

True because cars can't get around other vehicle somehow after being stopped by player means world is dead everything else doesn't matter, like you know actual word. Here is simple counter. Any other "open world" game out there atm is like complete wasteland compared to 77.

You need to post something other than graphics to support your claims.

btw, the cops just spawn when you commit a crime:



https://www.polygon.com/2020/12/10/...anted-cops-police-system-spawn-cd-projekt-red
yes i know it's Polygon, but anyway...

Very immersive Open world RPG indeed.

 

[Perkel]

It's ok but the weak part of the game again , at least its not a cover shooter ala gears of wars, but more life a classic like half life except the AI is not any better, no progress at all since this prehistoric era .They will stand behind cover and you can turn around them easily and slice them with a katana.

I don't get it. Why i am not experiencing any of this ? Right now i am on some scrapyard with leveled enemies playing as netrunner. Those guys don't fuck around, they straight up flank you and if you hide they search for you running after you.
AI isn't superb but it definitely tier above most of shooters let alone "shooter rpgs".

Stealth also much improved since early game as dudes cones of view are much better and they definitely can see you from far away and it is much harder to stealth your way around and break necks.

I mean look at this i recorded yesterday, you can clearly see how enemies moved up level up from ground and actively search for you also running for cover if they can, this is on hard btw (maybe ai package depends on def level ?):

You need to post something other than graphics to support your claims. btw, the cops just spawn when you commit a crime:

You mean like in every other open world game ? I mean the same thing happens in GTA. 77 "problem" is that spawning distance is pretty close compared to rest, mostly due to world being just dense not having "every road is highway" problem. Also i don't get why 77 should do what GTA does, mowing down 10s of peds and you get 1 star with response time of half a minute to minute sometimes not at all. Here seems to be design choice rather than some tech problem. They just decided mowing down peds in no go and you shouldn't even try it and if you respond to police you get in seconds second and third star and you are effectively fucked.

It reminds me "mafia is broken because you can get tickets for speeding" back in the day.

 

[racofer]

Pay attention to the cars behind you:




Next-gen graphics:

 

[Darkwind]

Any girls hotter than Judy later on or is that all we get?

Panam

You are really pushing this half-breed mulatto n-gger mutt. But your avatar probably has something to do w/ that. Just stop... You captured her best angle here. Her face ain't nothin' to write home about. THE THIRST IS REAL.

 

[catchaser]

Pay attention to the cars behind you:




Next-gen graphics:

Clearly next-gen.

 

[Necroscope]

Just to invoke even more despair, a reminder:

So, is this the game you're playing?