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Another Oblivion Thread

Proweler

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Can't say I like the new menu system. It's all to big. It won't be a problem when you are a few paces away from the TV but on the PC it's just a waist of space. No reason to save PC users some trouble and put stats, magic, map and inventory on the same page.

er·go·nom·ics Audio pronunciation of "ergonomics" ( P ) Pronunciation Key (ûrg-nmks)
n.

1. (used with a sing. verb) The applied science of equipment design, as for the workplace, intended to maximize productivity by reducing operator fatigue and discomfort. Also called biotechnology, human engineering, human factors engineering.
2. (used with a pl. verb) Design factors, as for the workplace, intended to maximize productivity by minimizing operator fatigue and discomfort: The ergonomics of the new office were felt to be optimal.
 

HardCode

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ADHD is the liberal, yuppie excuse for why their children are fucking monsters. The liberal yuppies found the definition of ADHD in a medical book and said, "Oh, that's MY child! THAT is why he is like that!".

What they fail to realize is that:

* Nannies/babysitters 5 days a week so they can go to the spa and fuckall
* Time Out because god forbid they beat sense into their child's ass when they are bad, really bad
* "My child NEVER does anything wrong!" to their monster's teacher
* "It's not me, it's my poor unfortunate child! No way I could be a bad parent ... I'm a stock analyst for crying out loud!"
 

TheGreatGodPan

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HardCode said:
Time Out because god forbid they beat sense into their child's ass when they are bad, really bad
If you don't beat your kids, reality will.
Time out is probably too extreme a punishment for the lousy excuses for parents you see these days.
 

Saint_Proverbius

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What do you expect when you inflate a kid's ego for merely existing while at the same time never correcting them?

I'd also like to point out that diet probably has a huge impact on this whole ADHD thing. Kids are largely inactive compared to 20 or 30 years ago and Mountain Dew is packed with caffiene and sugar that goes straight in to the bloodstream being nice and disolved in a liquid. There's also way too many carbohydrates in our diets to remain as inactive as most kids are these days.

Load up little Johnny on some Sugar Pops or a few Pop Tarts in the morning, some Mountain Dew, and then wonder why you have to drug him up to get him to sit still in class.
 

Barbader

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Because you're FUCKING FANBOYS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You have no sense of irony, do you? You sit at your computers half the fucking year, coming to this same damn forum, bitching about this same shit, and YOU have the nerve to call others fanboys?
Who the fuck are you trying to kid?!
Now, I'm not saying you should change hobbies, if this is what you're best at, you're not gonna find another hobby, it doesn't get any lower than this. But for Chrissakes, be creative.

o.k.?
Alrighty then, go fuck your mother.

-Goodbye


WOW, a brutal realtime attack from a Bethesda dumb berserker fanatic!,
i spend five ap´s backstabbing him after walk out from the darkness, and then shout him !!go YOU to fuck your mother!!

sorry, its only roleplaying... im a skilled thief.
 

Twinfalls

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MrSmileyFaceDude said:
Han Solo dodges Greedo's shot, A New Hope DVD.

Just on this note, here's a nice poem I stumbled across:

george lucas listen,
you lameass wanking fuckstain,
release old versions.

a new hope we have
for your head on a platter
damn new versions suck

han solo, badass
greedo, green bounty hunter
Bang. One shot, One Kill.

under the table
he aims the blaster and fires
Not second, but first.





http://asmallvictory.net/mt/mt-comments ... ry_id=5982
 

odorf sniggab

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fanboys

I agree on one point a lot of you have been making that you seem to think I don't believe. Graphics DON'T make a good game, I AGREE. However, your attitudes are awful. You're all constantly proving why nerds don't have any friends except other nerds. You're stuck up, but narrow minded at the same time. You answer most everyones imput regarding this game with some kind of insult if it doesn't precisely match your opinion. What the hell does that solve? If you respond to something someone writes that is not offensive at all but differs from your opinion by insulting said person, that is some serious sociopathic behavior. I.E something people do when they are angry at people in general. I.E nerds...

Basically most of you are sociopaths, not all of you. Some of you guys seem like calm rational decent folks, who just want a friendly debate, no harm in that. The rest of you need help, I'm not kidding at all. For God's sake, go outside take a walk. Get some fresh air. Put DOWN that hot pocket son and step away from the monitor! I know those guilty of this behavior (regulars to this forum NOT withstanding) will respond and pretend I have no idea what I'm talking about, but denial doesn't change hard facts. Not even in cyberspace.

Take heed though Bethesda, they're right about a few things. Graphics, no matter how impressive, do not make a game better. I am sorry I know you guys worked hard on this game but I truely hope that 20 minute gameplay footage is a rough draft on how the final game will play. The voice acting was sub par, the animations of the NPC's was sketchy and questionable. They moved like they were boards with arms and legs. The animation on the dog was awful, he went from standing on his hind legs to all fours without so much as an animation inbetween. Making it look like he was poorly edited into the scene. He spun in a circle like he was on iceskates. I didnt know dogs could do that lol. Also, I'm truely curious to know why with next gen developers can't make cuts appear on an enemy's body before they fall. Especially in a game of this nature where combat is 50 percent of the gameplay. I mean I would like it explained to me so I can learn why that is not possible. Explained by A DEVELOPER mind you, not some biased fanboy of Bethesda. I know visual cuts on an enemy is purely aesthetics, but then again so are graphics..and you sure seemed to put pride in graphics in Oblivion. Devs, not even casual gamers are impressed by graphics alone anymore.
 

Balor

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Well, in "Heart of Eternity" you can have 'freeform' dismemberment, meaning you can cut off the middle finger that enemy dared to show you...
*daydream*
And I'm 99% serious :).
So, it's not impossible... but will, most likely, result in mature rating, I'm 99.999999% sure that Oblivion is heading for Teen.
 

bryce777

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Re: fanboys

odorf sniggab said:
I agree on one point a lot of you have been making that you seem to think I don't believe. Graphics DON'T make a good game, I AGREE. However, your attitudes are awful. You're all constantly proving why nerds don't have any friends except other nerds. You're stuck up, but narrow minded at the same time. You answer most everyones imput regarding this game with some kind of insult if it doesn't precisely match your opinion. What the hell does that solve? If you respond to something someone writes that is not offensive at all but differs from your opinion by insulting said person, that is some serious sociopathic behavior. I.E something people do when they are angry at people in general. I.E nerds...

Basically most of you are sociopaths, not all of you. Some of you guys seem like calm rational decent folks, who just want a friendly debate, no harm in that. The rest of you need help, I'm not kidding at all. For God's sake, go outside take a walk. Get some fresh air. Put DOWN that hot pocket son and step away from the monitor! I know those guilty of this behavior (regulars to this forum NOT withstanding) will respond and pretend I have no idea what I'm talking about, but denial doesn't change hard facts. Not even in cyberspace.

Take heed though Bethesda, they're right about a few things. Graphics, no matter how impressive, do not make a game better. I am sorry I know you guys worked hard on this game but I truely hope that 20 minute gameplay footage is a rough draft on how the final game will play. The voice acting was sub par, the animations of the NPC's was sketchy and questionable. They moved like they were boards with arms and legs. The animation on the dog was awful, he went from standing on his hind legs to all fours without so much as an animation inbetween. Making it look like he was poorly edited into the scene. He spun in a circle like he was on iceskates. I didnt know dogs could do that lol. Also, I'm truely curious to know why with next gen developers can't make cuts appear on an enemy's body before they fall. Especially in a game of this nature where combat is 50 percent of the gameplay. I mean I would like it explained to me so I can learn why that is not possible. Explained by A DEVELOPER mind you, not some biased fanboy of Bethesda. I know visual cuts on an enemy is purely aesthetics, but then again so are graphics..and you sure seemed to put pride in graphics in Oblivion. Devs, not even casual gamers are impressed by graphics alone anymore.

LOL! You are almost as funny as the other guy.


On the graphics, there is a lot to take note on. Graphics can matter, but they are like the last bit of polish on a game. They can fuck up a game if they are so bad you cannot see for instance, but no matter how good they are they only really are about 10-15% of what's important at most.

Also, just having SUPER ADVANCED TECHNOLOGY doesn't make your graphics good. Most of the demos I see look liek they are just showing off whatever the latest (generally really annoying and senseless) directx feature all the latest graphics cards have.

Like for example the CRYSTAL CLEAR BUMPMAPPED SEWER WATER in bloodlines - it looks sort of neat but it looks nothing like sewer water, and it is too clear and shiny even for pool water...you shouldn't NOTICE the water at all if it is well done. As I got on in the game some of the grapics were amazing (in particular the view of the city from grout's mansion), but it is important that the artists do a good job, as well as the modelers (if applicable) and programmers or else high tech gets you jack squat. A good example is fallout - it is ultra low tech, but somehow the art still stands the test of time and looks very realistic...because it is well done.
 
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HardCode said:
ADHD is the liberal, yuppie excuse for why their children are fucking monsters. The liberal yuppies found the definition of ADHD in a medical book and said, "Oh, that's MY child! THAT is why he is like that!".

What they fail to realize is that:

* Nannies/babysitters 5 days a week so they can go to the spa and fuckall
* Time Out because god forbid they beat sense into their child's ass when they are bad, really bad
* "My child NEVER does anything wrong!" to their monster's teacher
* "It's not me, it's my poor unfortunate child! No way I could be a bad parent ... I'm a stock analyst for crying out loud!"
Why liberal?
 

bryce777

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Tetragrammaton said:
HardCode said:
ADHD is the liberal, yuppie excuse for why their children are fucking monsters. The liberal yuppies found the definition of ADHD in a medical book and said, "Oh, that's MY child! THAT is why he is like that!".

What they fail to realize is that:

* Nannies/babysitters 5 days a week so they can go to the spa and fuckall
* Time Out because god forbid they beat sense into their child's ass when they are bad, really bad
* "My child NEVER does anything wrong!" to their monster's teacher
* "It's not me, it's my poor unfortunate child! No way I could be a bad parent ... I'm a stock analyst for crying out loud!"
Why liberal?

Most stupid yuppies are 'prerich' baby boomer dumbfuck bush voters who don't bother to say two words to their kid until he/she causes some fucking disaster then they medicate him.
 

TheGreatGodPan

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Bullshit. Liberals are the ones always saying "Violence only creates more violence" "The nuclear family is an instution of oppressive patriarchy" "The young must be allowed to freely express themselves". The conservatives say "Spare the rod and spoil the child". If it was like you say, there'd be less kid-smacking in rural areas and exurbs than suburbs, where bad behavior is said to result from bad kids rather than some condition they just can't help.

Yuppie=Young Urban Professional. Young and Urban tend to result in liberal.
 

HardCode

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Re: fanboys

odorf sniggab said:
*snip niceties*
Basically most of you are sociopaths, not all of you. Some of you guys seem like calm rational decent folks, who just want a friendly debate, no harm in that. The rest of you need help, I'm not kidding at all. For God's sake, go outside take a walk. Get some fresh air. Put DOWN that hot pocket son and step away from the monitor! I know those guilty of this behavior (regulars to this forum NOT withstanding) will respond and pretend I have no idea what I'm talking about, but denial doesn't change hard facts. Not even in cyberspace. *snip gametalk*

Which group am I in? :?:
 

bryce777

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TheGreatGodPan said:
Bullshit. Liberals are the ones always saying "Violence only creates more violence" "The nuclear family is an instution of oppressive patriarchy" "The young must be allowed to freely express themselves". The conservatives say "Spare the rod and spoil the child". If it was like you say, there'd be less kid-smacking in rural areas and exurbs than suburbs, where bad behavior is said to result from bad kids rather than some condition they just can't help.

Yuppie=Young Urban Professional. Young and Urban tend to result in liberal.

The yuppies of the 80s are all grown up now. they are the ones having kids,a nd they are no longer liberal.
 

MrSmileyFaceDude

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bryce777 said:
MrSmileyFaceDude said:
...Bush voters are conservative, not liberal.

No shit. You just figure that out?

Tetragrammaton asked "Why Liberal?" in response to HardCode's post. You replied with your "most stupid yuppies" line. 2 + 2 generally equals 4, and so it sure looked to me that you were answering Tetragrammaton's question. If I'm mistaken, it's only because you weren't clear as to you were responding to.
 

bryce777

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MrSmileyFaceDude said:
bryce777 said:
MrSmileyFaceDude said:
...Bush voters are conservative, not liberal.

No shit. You just figure that out?

Tetragrammaton asked "Why Liberal?" in response to HardCode's post. You replied with your "most stupid yuppies" line. 2 + 2 generally equals 4, and so it sure looked to me that you were answering Tetragrammaton's question. If I'm mistaken, it's only because you weren't clear as to you were responding to.

Well, my point is that they are bush supporters/conservatives.

Actually, I am pretty sure this is a nonpartisan phenomenon for the most part...the bible thumpers might be against this, but they are a small spectrum of the conservatives out there, most of whom are not rich enough to make excuses like that or get such a diagnosis anyhow.

The real problem is that psychiatrists no longer do analysis or therapy, they just prescribe pills...nevermind that all psychotropic drugs cause permanent, irreversable personality changes to some degree or another and that misdiagnosis can lead to turning someone normal into a mental fuckup.
 

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