Assassins Creed Valhalla - set in the Viking age - now on Steam

[AwesomeButton]

Can we make a new forum section for games that aren't actually really RPGs but are just action Games with forced half assed rpg mechanics thrown in as an afterthought? We could literally call it the rpg-lite subforum. I'm betting this game will follow the same decisions all these openworld triple a games have been going with recently so we might as well get ahead of the curve and put it where it belongs

Sorry prey and disco elysium have both medaled in past codex rpgoty polls so everything is an rpg now.

Whoa hold up, it's a completely different story when it's non-RPGs they like. Then different rules apply.

What makes you think Asscreed: Care Bears won't "medal" in this year's RPGOTY poll?

 

[Ontopoly]

Can we make a new forum section for games that aren't actually really RPGs but are just action Games with forced half assed rpg mechanics thrown in as an afterthought? We could literally call it the rpg-lite subforum. I'm betting this game will follow the same decisions all these openworld triple a games have been going with recently so we might as well get ahead of the curve and put it where it belongs

Sorry prey and disco elysium have both medaled in past codex rpgoty polls so everything is an rpg now.

Whoa hold up, it's a completely different story when it's non-RPGs they like. Then different rules apply.

I've never played prey and disco is some trash tier attempt at comedy

 

[Ibn Sina]

Ibn Fadlan describing the viking ubermensch in his chronicles :

"I have never seen more perfect physical specimen. Tall as date palms, blonde and ruddy. Each man carries an axe, a sword and a knife and keeps each by him at all times. They are tattooed from fingernail to neck with dark green symbols."

 

[moon knight]

 

[Drowed]

"Crimes against medieval realism".

 

[AwesomeButton]

Medieval realism wasn't killed - it was murdered.

 

[GrainWetski]

Eivor is a name for grandmas and it certainly isn't pronounced "Ävör". That is all I have to say about this garbage.

 

[Atlantico]

Eivor is a name for grandmas and it certainly isn't pronounced "Ävör". That is all I have to say about this garbage.

Swedofags need not apply their opinion. Eivor is a woman's name, duh, but only in ultra fagistan is it a name for grandmas - because all the young women there are named Habiba. Cuck.

Cope CuckWetski cope bitch.

 

[Fedora Master]

Bearded fatso shoots fish in barrel

 

[Drixed]

I knew the vikings were the good guys all along, they just wanted to spread love even if it was a bit forceful, they were misunderstood.

 

[Forest Dweller]

Can someone who actually lives in England tell me how varied the landscape is?

So I've been trying to find this out on my own, and this is what I get:

https://www.google.com/search?q=eng...UQB50JHTo6DoQQ_AUoAXoECBMQAw&biw=1745&bih=852

It does kind of all look the same.

Also, from the IGN article on it:

Valhalla's map will include Norway, which players can return to after the Vikings leave, and the four kingdoms of England: Wessex, Northumbria, East Anglia, Mercia.

So not even Wales, Scotland, or Ireland either.

 

[Atlantico]

Your creative director, ladies and gentlemen.

oh good grief

Would you believe his inspiration for the game is the book Eaters of the Dead: The Manuscript of Ibn Fadlan Relating His Experiences with the Northmen in AD 922 by Michael Chrichton... amazin' amirite?

The original Dan Brown meets arab muslims in the Viking age, as seen from the degenerate and appropriately ignorant North American perspective.

My advice has been updated from "hold" to "sell, sell, sell!"

 

[vonAchdorf]

It was a given that Ibn Fadlan (or a Ibn Fadlan-like) would somehow play a role in the game and Arab merchants and the like.

Regarding history, Ash(raf Ismail) did an ok job with Origins (better than the Odyssey team).

 

[Atlantico]

Regarding history, Ash(raf Ismail) did an ok job with Origins (better than the Odyssey team).

This has to stop. History and Asscreed have nothing to do with each other.

They use historical settings (in the loosest sense of the word) to create fantasy worlds. Do you understand that the Asscreed series is not historical?

I have to ask, because people run to this inane argument each and every time a game in the series is released... "oh but was it a historically accurate representation?"



No. No it fucking wasn't. None of them are. Not a single one is remotely historically accurate.

The refreshing thing about Odyssey is that the team behind that game went with this fact and didn't look back. They didn't try to make the game historically accurate, they had dragons and magic and Leonidas and time travel and aliens and whatever else in the game, because *the series isn't historically accurate and never was*.

Damn this series was shit and now it looks like it's going back to shit. At least Odyssey was a worthwhile game and a step in the right direction (don't waste money on the DLCs they're super worthless btw)

Goddammit, why people insist Assrape is "historically accurate" or even should aspire to be "historically accurate". And a big fucking *citation needed* that Origins was more "historically accurate", because we don't know jack or shit about the details of life in ancient Egypt.

 

[vonAchdorf]

Of course it's not accurate, but it's fantasy set against a backdrop which aims to present a historical theme park setting with sufficient accuracy to make it believable. That's why they have educational historical tours and biographies in their games.

That's why Odyssey with its Californians in Greek dresses yelling fuck all the time didn't cut it for me.

 

[Quillon]

The refreshing thing about Odyssey is that the team behind that game went with this fact and didn't look back. They didn't try to make the game historically accurate, they had dragons and magic and Leonidas and time travel and aliens and whatever else in the game, because *the series isn't historically accurate and never was*.

Fuck them. I'm not historian, most inaccuracies don't bother me but there are enough games with fantasy crap out there, AC doesn't need fights with minotaurs etc to be an interesting time waster.

 

[AwesomeButton]

It was a given that Ibn Fadlan (or a Ibn Fadlan-like) would somehow play a role in the game and Arab merchants and the like.

Regarding history, Ash(raf Ismail) did an ok job with Origins (better than the Odyssey team).

Could someone here enlighten me on the subject of comparing Origins with Odyssey?

The question came up when the two were recently on a big sale on steam. This raised my interest in the series enough so as to pirate Odyssey and see for myself how reasonable all the praise is. Judging by about 5 hours of gameplay on the first island, if this is the better of the two new ACs, then I fear to imagine what the worse one is like.

 

[Spectacle]

Sure the AssCreed games weren't historically accurate, but they were historical enough that one could pretend that the game stories were what actually happened and that history as we know it is distorted to hide the fact that secret societies have been acting from the shadows for millennia. Only with Odyssey did they go overboard with a combination of fantasy elements and "diversity" to create a vision of ancient Greece that's not even slightly believable.

 

[Fedora Master]

If they aren't meant to be historically accurate, why do the devs insist on showcasing "historically accurate" stronk empowered womyn?

 

[DJOGamer PT]

Not a single one is remotely historically accurate.

Yeah but they are historically authentic, specially when it comes to environments.

 

[Ibn Sina]

Your creative director, ladies and gentlemen.

oh good grief

Would you believe his inspiration for the game is the book Eaters of the Dead: The Manuscript of Ibn Fadlan Relating His Experiences with the Northmen in AD 922 by Michael Chrichton... amazin' amirite?

The original Dan Brown meets arab muslims in the Viking age, as seen from the degenerate and appropriately ignorant North American perspective.

My advice has been updated from "hold" to "sell, sell, sell!"

Source? Does he really say his inspiration is the Michael chricton book?

 

[Salvo]

Not a single one is remotely historically accurate.

Yeah but they are historically authentic, specially when it comes to environments.

He knows. Don't bother, this argument has been made multiple times already.

 

[Lord_Potato]

Sure the AssCreed games weren't historically accurate, but they were historical enough that one could pretend that the game stories were what actually happened and that history as we know it is distorted to hide the fact that secret societies have been acting from the shadows for millennia. Only with Odyssey did they go overboard with a combination of fantasy elements and "diversity" to create a vision of ancient Greece that's not even slightly believable.

Actually it happened in second expansion to Origins, in which Bayek travels to the Underworld and meets long dead pharaohs.

 

[Atlantico]

Of course it's not accurate, but it's fantasy set against a backdrop which aims to present a historical theme park setting with sufficient accuracy to make it believable.

Sure, sufficiently *believable* if you're totally and proudly ignorant of history.

In other words, if you're a drooling idiot, then Assrape has *fantastic* historical accuracy.

This is literally an intelligence test: do you think AC is historically accurate? If yes, then you are in the double-digit IQ club.

That's why Odyssey with its Californians in Greek dresses yelling fuck all the time didn't cut it for me.

So the Egyptians with the arabic accent in Origins were any fucking better? Or all the English speaking guards in Havana in AC4 Black Flag. It's just that you can't recognize the stupid - not that it isn't there. This shit has been stupid and broken from day one, game one.

Fuck them. I'm not historian, most inaccuracies don't bother me but there are enough games with fantasy crap out there, AC doesn't need fights with minotaurs etc to be an interesting time waster.

Here's one who is fucking proud of being a drooling retard. IT IS FANTASY. How the fuck do you not realize that after all this? They don't have minotaurs, you're also fucking ignorant of the games you're supposedly sucking the cock of, but they do have magic and alien races and time travel - and that's in ALL THE FUCKING ASS GAMES. All of them.

Did you eat paint as a child?

if this is the better of the two new ACs, then I fear to imagine what the worse one is like.

Did you like Twitcher3? If not, then these games are not for you - they are TW3 in another setting. Same gameplay, same RPG, same uninspired and derivative writing. Surely you're not trying to be edgy by pointing out that these aren't masterpieces?

Sure the AssCreed games weren't historically accurate, but they were historical enough that one could pretend that the game stories were what actually happened

Only if you're an idiot. I'm sorry, it's that simple.

Yeah but they are historically authentic, specially when it comes to environments.

No, not only are they historically trash when it comes to actual history, but the ostensibly "historically accurate" environments are also fucked right up with spectacle, over design and gameplay design decisions. They're as historically accurate as Ben Hur.

Source? Does he really say his inspiration is the Michael chricton book?

https://www.gameinformer.com/2020/0...gest-questions-about-assassins-creed-valhalla

Is google broken in muslimstan?

He knows. Don't bother, this argument has been made multiple times already.

I know that argument is retarded and patently insane. No matter how many times it's been made. Asscreed is not, was not and has never been "historically accurate" in any relevant way, shape or form.

Only if you are an idiot who knows nothing of history - in reality the entire series is FANTASY. So are the "historical" settings.

 

[Salvo]

Surely you can see the difference? True, AC has always had fantastical elements (Eagle's Vision, the Isu, DNA memories etc...) but they were small and a ploy to justify gameplay elements. The setting itself was grounded and based in reality, in nu-ACs you have straight up mythical beasts taking form, speaking with dead pharaohs etc.