Eternity Avowed - Obsidian's first person action-RPG in the Pillars of Eternity setting - coming February 18th

[Fedora Master]

Which part of "boring banal shit" did you not understand?

the part where you went full retard, pizcut.

Rent free

 

[PunchYouInTheFace]

Rent free

Just like toilet paper, pizcut

 

[rubinstein]

 

[Nikanuur]

Was it ever mentioned in Pillars that dwarves have shorter arms? Sure, they have short legs, but their proportions seem to be different. They certainly don't suffer from shorter range in melee, so most likely they resemble apes more, with short legs and long arms.

And obviously they don't lack in upper body strength and contrary to what D&D tells us, that's the most important stat for an archer, especially with composite bow.

They did release two full-body pictures of Sagani. https://pillarsofeternity.fandom.com/wiki/Sagani#Gallery

Hello, archer here. To kill a human or medium-sized game, you don't need a particularly strong bow. Even a larping toy bow with a 15-pound draw weight can penetrate into vital organs effectively under 10 meters. Accuracy is always key.
However, when considering factors like distance, armor, hide, bone, etc., you'll need either thicker or longer bow arms (or both) to generate more power. So, while longer bow arms or a longer draw length do increase shooting power, there's nothing stopping a dwarf from using a small bow with very thick arms to generate, say, a 70-pound grizzly-killing draw weight (or +5 damage on a Runic Short Bow, in fantasy terms)—as long as they have the necessary back strength. Arm strength is also important, but it's secondary in bow shooting.

 

[MjKorz]

Which part of "boring banal shit" did you not understand?

It's "banal shit boring". Get your 'dex memes right.

Proof:

Banal
Shit
Boring

 

[Roguey]

12 ports of Skyrim, Skyrim anniversary edition, Skyrim anniversary edition with paid mods,
Elex, Chronicles of Myrtana, Witcher 3, Gedonia, Dread Delusion, and I'm forgetting way more.

Skyrim: 2011, over 13 years before Avowed
Elex: 2017, 7 years ago, an entire console generation
Archolos: 2021, 3 years ago, a mod for an over 20 year old game, really niche
Witcher 3: 2015, 9 years ago
Gedonia: 2022, 2 years ago, but looks like a game for small children
Dread Delusion, 2024, looks like an ugly indie mess

Not seeing much in the way of first person fantasy rpgs for the masses in recent history.

 

[MjKorz]

Dread Delusion, 2024, looks like an ugly indie mess

Looks like an artistic indie mess. The good kind.

 

[Roguey]

Dread Delusion, 2024, looks like an ugly indie mess

Looks like an artistic indie mess. The good kind.

These niche games have their place but these aren't potential-Avowed audience numbers.

 

[MjKorz]

These niche games have their place but these aren't potential-Avowed audience numbers.

Not saying they are, just saying that I wouldn't call the art direction of Dread Delusion "ugly".

 

[ERYFKRAD]

Elex: 2017, 7 years ago, an entire console generation
Archolos: 2021, 3 years ago, a mod for an over 20 year old game, really niche
Witcher 3: 2015, 9 years ago
Gedonia: 2022, 2 years ago, but looks like a game for small children
Dread Delusion, 2024, looks like an ugly indie mess

You said 10 years dumbo, you got games in 10 years.
The skyrim one was a joke.

 

[scytheavatar]

Is there even a large amount of RPG players who give a shit if their game is first or third person? I am not sure there is. In fact I am not sure there are a lot of people who realize what Baldur's Gate 3 was like before they brought it. All they knew was that it's a RPG that is hyped and getting a lot of attention so they probably figured it's like Witcher 3. So I am not sure why Avowed being first person is some big deal.

 

[Cryomancer]

IMO among all of the first person "skyrim esque" games, the best one is Tainted Grail : The fall of Avalon. Believe or not, the game is based in Celtic mythology and people look like celts in the game. I know, extremely rare nowadays. About Avoided, I would buy it but steam no longer accepts Argentine pesos and I refuse to pay for a shit product without using a shit coin.

Is there even a large amount of RPG players who give a shit if their game is first or third person?

I prefer first person, even played DDO in FP. But I don't demand it cuz I know that is extremely rare nowadays. Hell, even the Elder Scrolls is no longer a first person game, in Daggerfall and Morrowind, even knocked down animations are in FP, you could play in werewolf form in FP. In Skyrim, everything is "forced third person". Riding a horse? Riding a dragon? Assuming werewolf or vampire lord form? Forced third person. Is so annoying.

In 90s, there was so many great FP RPGs...

 

[Zed Duke of Banville]

Except for yet another semi-open world-ish action RPG power fantasy,

Feel free to list how many of those that have been released in the past 10 years.

Codex GotY 2022 Elden Ring, Codex GotY 2024 Dragon's Dogma II, and (except not fantasy) Codex GotY 2025 KCD II.

 

[Roguey]

You said 10 years dumbo, you got games in 10 years.
The skyrim one was a joke.

Appreciate it since it proves that this isn't an oversaturated subgenre.

Codex GotY 2022 Elden Ring, Codex GotY 2024 Dragon's Dogma II,

Japanese games that are extremely different in tone and content to what Avowed offers.

 

[PunchYouInTheFace]

Japanese games

People 30 years ago should've gatekeep RPG as a term harder. Now any action slop with random damage number generate and floating numbers get to use RPG as marketing tag.

 

[ERYFKRAD]

Appreciate it since it proves that this isn't an oversaturated subgenre.

Like I said, I missed a hell of a lot more. I'm nit arguing the saturation levels, I don't think it exists. They just get hyped more than the rest.

 

[Peachcurl]

IMO among all of the first person "skyrim esque" games, the best one is Tainted Grail : The fall of Avalon. Believe or not, the game is based in Celtic mythology and people look like celts in the game. I know, extremely rare nowadays.

But Tainted Grail is early access

 

[luj1]

Not seeing much in the way of first person fantasy rpgs for the masses in recent history.

Outer Worlds? It was even from the same company, you bloody muppet

 

[Peachcurl]

Not seeing much in the way of first person fantasy rpgs for the masses in recent history.

Outer Worlds? It was even from the same company, you bloody muppet

Maybe he doesn't include scifi in fantasy here?

 

[Roguey]

Outer Worlds? It was even from the same company, you bloody muppet

Outer Worlds is sci-fi and also five years ago.

 

[luj1]

and also five years ago.

You said 10 years tranny. Memory loss?

Outer Worlds is sci-fi

Who gives a shit?

Patel revealed that in terms of the kind of the narrative structure, Avowed is a lot closer to The Outer Worlds. Patel further explained that similarly to The Outer Worlds, Avowed has a series of open zones that are connected and unlock over the course of the game.

There you go, Avowed is basically Outer Worlds with swords

 

[luj1]

In before Roguey says, b-b-but it's the first RPG... w-with PISTOLS a-and... BLUE-skinned races i-in the last 27 years...

I am certain you Obsidian shills can eventually find a combination that works

 

[Fedora Master]

Why are you trying to argue with a soulless fleshmachine?

 

[Roguey]

You said 10 years tranny. Memory loss?

To make the point that a handful of games in an entire decade isn't very much.

Who gives a shit?

A lot of people do. Skyrim did much better than Fallout 4. "Fantasy RPGS are more popular than sci-fi" was true decades ago, and it still appears to be true.

 

[luj1]

I have a better theory Roguey. Everyone is making the same game over and over again.

The Outer Worlds (Tim Cain's "dream game") is basically a reskin of Fallout 4. Meanwhile Allowed is a reskin of Outer Worlds.

Everyone wants a piece of that TES cake.