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Eternity Avowed - Obsidian's first person action-RPG in the Pillars of Eternity setting - coming February 18th

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The thing with Obs vs Bioware or Obs vs some other big name RPG studio is their games at least look to be AAA quality from get go, even that Failguard from "today's zombie studio Bioware" does. Where as Awoken looks to be barely breaking AA quality. Obs always was and always will be technically inept evidently and this is why people initially get taken aback when seeing such comparisons between Obs vs other technically competent studious, why we/some of us think Bioware is the bigger name(they probably have the much bigger studio) with the bigger fan base, where as NV's fan base probably single handedly rivals or beats ME + DA fan base.
Veilguard has a much bigger team. Avowed has a core team of 100. Bioware was over 100 back when they did Mass Effect.
 

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For big AAA games they've definitely always been technically inept, but Grounded and Deadfire look great and highly polished within their own genre.
 
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And budgetwise, does Avowed also have a larger one than TOW? Given how limited the scope of everything is with Avowed, seems like they're trying to play it extremely safe if that's the case (in terms of releasing an equally stable and feature complete game).
With more employees and more years in development, obviously.
 

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Nobody's going to even mention the fact that the dwarf is an archer?

You need long arms for archery, especially with medieval era tech.

This is why dwarfs are usually either shown with crossbows or guns in most media.

Way to fail every step of the way, man. Just like Dragon Age.
 

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Nobody's going to even mention the fact that the dwarf is an archer?

You need long arms for archery, especially with medieval era tech.

This is why dwarfs are usually either shown with crossbows or guns in most media.

Way to fail every step of the way, man. Just like Dragon Age.
There's nothing mechanical that prevents dwarfs from using bows in any Pillars or D&D game. :M

In fact, considering Sagani, you are literally a decade late with this criticism.
 

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Nobody's going to even mention the fact that the dwarf is an archer?

You need long arms for archery, especially with medieval era tech.

Dwarven bows use air pressure to fire.

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Nobody's going to even mention the fact that the dwarf is an archer?

You need long arms for archery, especially with medieval era tech.
Dwarves are just built different. Whatever they lack in leverage they compensate via muscle density.
 

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Was it ever mentioned in Pillars that dwarves have shorter arms? Sure, they have short legs, but their proportions seem to be different. They certainly don't suffer from shorter range in melee, so most likely they resemble apes more, with short legs and long arms.

And obviously they don't lack in upper body strength and contrary to what D&D tells us, that's the most important stat for an archer, especially with composite bow.
 

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Was it ever mentioned in Pillars that dwarves have shorter arms? Sure, they have short legs, but their proportions seem to be different. They certainly don't suffer from shorter range in melee, so most likely they resemble apes more, with short legs and long arms.

And obviously they don't lack in upper body strength and contrary to what D&D tells us, that's the most important stat for an archer, especially with composite bow.
Manual says they're "short and thick limbed." Doesn't say anything about gorilla arms.

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Even with shorter limbs, they have the +2 racial strength bonus to compensate for lack of leverage.
 

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Nobody's going to even mention the fact that the dwarf is an archer?

You need long arms for archery, especially with medieval era tech.

This is why dwarfs are usually either shown with crossbows or guns in most media.

Way to fail every step of the way, man. Just like Dragon Age.
The dwarves in The Hobbit (yes, the book) frequently used bows, IIRC.

(It's interesting how the dwarf archetype at that early stage in fantasy literature is recognizable but subtly different.)
 

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Whether Dwarves can use bows or not is surely the number one problem with Allowed

Just don't tell Sawyer or he's gonna make a needy 3 hour long video
 
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Nobody's going to even mention the fact that the dwarf is an archer?

You need long arms for archery, especially with medieval era tech.

This is why dwarfs are usually either shown with crossbows or guns in most media.

Way to fail every step of the way, man. Just like Dragon Age.
I think dwarves could be amazing archers. They have very strong arms and legs, so they would be able to use the most powerful bows. They're great craftsmen - that mean they'd excel in creation of the best bows ever. And they usually portrayed as very meticulous and patient - very important traits for good archers.
 

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Was it ever mentioned in Pillars that dwarves have shorter arms? Sure, they have short legs, but their proportions seem to be different. They certainly don't suffer from shorter range in melee, so most likely they resemble apes more, with short legs and long arms.

And obviously they don't lack in upper body strength and contrary to what D&D tells us, that's the most important stat for an archer, especially with composite bow.
They did release two full-body pictures of Sagani. https://pillarsofeternity.fandom.com/wiki/Sagani#Gallery
 

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