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Eternity Avowed - Obsidian's first person action-RPG in the Pillars of Eternity setting - coming February 18th

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scytheavatar said:
That's the thing, Obsidian's heyday is one game. As a whole Obsidian has always been a studio that appeals to a niche audience. Bioware has a bigger track record of successes and a bigger fan base.
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Knights of the Old Republic 2, New Vegas, South Park, The Outer Worlds sold millions. Today's Bioware is a zombie studio that hasn't had a success in 10 years.
 
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Roguey said:
scytheavatar said:
That's the thing, Obsidian's heyday is one game. As a whole Obsidian has always been a studio that appeals to a niche audience. Bioware has a bigger track record of successes and a bigger fan base.
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Knights of the Old Republic 2, New Vegas, South Park, The Outer Worlds sold millions. Today's Bioware is a zombie studio that hasn't had a success in 10 years.
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Let's not pretend like there isn't only one "recent" release there also. Outer Worlds aside (and you really gotta ask yourself how many of those sales were because of the gamepass system) every other game there came out over a decade ago.
 
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Let's not pretend like there isn't only one "recent" release there also. Outer Worlds aside (and you really gotta ask yourself how many of those sales were because of the gamepass system) every other game there came out over a decade ago.
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Outer Worlds selling millions because of a rental service would be even greater in its favor. They specifically stated units sold, not total players.

Grounded was a gamepass hit, Pentiment, the Pillars games, and Tyranny were received well and did pretty decently for their budgets (with Deadfire and Tyranny turning a profit over time), not intended to be big games meant to appeal to millions. Armored Warfare did well with tank fans. Bioware's output: Mass Effect Andromeda and Anthem, received poorly, sold poorly.
 
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No one gives a shit about your gazillions, tranny. Yes both companies are in a sorry state, but at least Bioware made Baldur's Gate. They made BG I and II, NwN and SWKotOR. Four classic RPGs. Meanwhile Obsidian never produced a good RPG after SWKotOR II. Therefore their first game was the only above-average RPG they ever made. And it was made by Avellone and Feargus, former Black Isle guys, and as a sequel to the weakest Bioware game. Lmao. Obsidian's B team led by Sawyer isn't even worth discussing.
 
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luj1 said:
No one gives a shit about your gazillions, tranny. Yes both companies are in a sorry state, but at least Bioware made Baldur's Gate. They made BG I and II, NwN and SWKotOR. Meanwhile Obsidian never produced a good RPG after SWKotOR II. So the only above-average RPG they ever made was their first game, was made by Avellone and Feargus, former Black Isle guys, and as a sequel to the weakest Bioware game. Lmao.
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Yes, they made those games in the 90s and early 2000s. Their titles to fame are more distant than the good games Obsidian made, not to mention most of the people who created them are gone (Obsidian somehow managed to retain more of its veterans, even if it lost a lot).

All in all, Bioware is in much worse state and most likely one poor release from getting shut.
 
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Both companies deserve to die. I really don't care which will go first. But Bioware under Muzyka and Zechuk had a name. The only time Obsidian did, was during SWKotOR II. Anything made afterwards by Soyer, etc., is laughable. That's not real Obsidian lol.
 
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luj1 said:
Both companies deserve to die. I really don't care which will go first. But Bioware under Muzyka and Zechuk had a name. The only time Obsidian did, was during SWKotOR II. Anything made afterwards by Soyer, etc., is laughable. That's not real Obsidian lol.
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Alpha Protocol, Fallout: New Vegas or even Pentiment laughable? As usual, you prove you've got no taste.
 
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First of all Pentiment is barely a videogame lol. Alpha Protocol has perennially had mixed reception. Among them New Vegas is probably the best. But just like any Fallout game since Tactics, New Vegas is a parody of the original IP. And like its predecessor Fallout 3, it is a console game for fucks sake. Get real dude. None of these titles is even above average in the world of RPGs.
 
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Roguey said:
scytheavatar said:
That's the thing, Obsidian's heyday is one game. As a whole Obsidian has always been a studio that appeals to a niche audience. Bioware has a bigger track record of successes and a bigger fan base.
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Knights of the Old Republic 2, New Vegas, South Park, The Outer Worlds sold millions. Today's Bioware is a zombie studio that hasn't had a success in 10 years.
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The thing with Obs vs Bioware or Obs vs some other big name RPG studio is their games at least look to be AAA quality from get go, even that Failguard from "today's zombie studio Bioware" does. Where as Awoken looks to be barely breaking AA quality. Obs always was and always will be technically inept evidently and this is why people initially get taken aback when seeing such comparisons between Obs vs other technically competent studious, why we/some of us think Bioware is the bigger name(they probably have the much bigger studio) with the bigger fan base, where as NV's fan base probably single handedly rivals or beats ME + DA fan base.

Also Grounded has no value in this comparison; small indie devs/1 man devs have bigger successes with survival games. It has no effect on RPG dev Obsidian's rep.
 
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