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Eternity Avowed - Obsidian's first person action-RPG in the Pillars of Eternity setting

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I've been playing it for a few hours. Went in as someone who really enjoys both Pillars games, and expected Avowed to pretty much suck.

-It's reminiscant of Outer Worlds in a lot of ways. There's that same sense of "design by committe", middle-of-the-road medicority present. It's not exactly the same but similar. It's the same boring loot and very "gamey" loot caches hidden away everywhere. It's just very boring and hurts exploration immensely. There's no attempt here to try and create a somewhat believable simulation, or even a simulation of a simulation. It's the most basic of videogames, with big-ass chests in alleyways, that give you crafting supplies and a few pieces of currency. The city and world are basically a facade, like in the Witcher 3 for example.

-The basic gameplay of moving around the world and combat is alright. It's simplistic action-RPG stuff but so far it's kept my attention. Again, it's not memorable or standout in any way but it's ok. It's similar to Outer Worlds in that regard, thankfully I haven't encountered anything like the slog of whatever that planet in that game was that was just a shitload of combat. So far, the combat encounters have been paced pretty well. But it's early in the going.

-The game looks quite a lot better than I expected I must say, I'm a bit surprised by that. The NPCs are the worst part, both in design and the weird sort of clay-like appearance they have. But the world is actually quite beautiful at times and there's been a few nice views to experience. That does help.

-The writing is about what you'd expect. It's basically the same type of character writing as The Outer World except without the focus on humor. That weirdly childish, "quirky" style of writing. I'm sure you know exactly what I mean. It's impossible to take it seriously in any way. That can be ok if it can manage to be amusing, but it's also boring and shallow so there's just not much to applaud here. The dialogue choices are often really bad and lacking in nuance, and some of the ability checks are on the level of "[INT] So you fight the good fight on the radio?". City-adventuring is some of my favorite stuff to do in RPGs but the writing makes it a real slog in this one.
The story is uninteresting so far and it's one of those types of games where you just feel like it almost cheapens the prior games in the universe. Full of quaint little "nods" back to the PoE games.

Thus far, a few hours in, comparable to the Outer Worlds. Difference being that in the Outer Worlds I was disappointed because I expected something better. Here, my expectations were way lower, so it just feels meh overall.
 
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At least you tried you're not Veilguard.
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So I don't get something: why did MS buy Bethesda/Obsidian/whatever if they're not gonna give them the resources to make AAA quality games? Or whatever it is that sells the most, like open world, aRPG stuff.
I mean, there's a clear lack of talent/skill at Obsidian but it can't be just that. I assume.
And if not, then why not just close them down? Seems like a waste overall.
 
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So I don't get something: why did MS buy Bethesda/Obsidian/whatever if they're not gonna give them with resources to make AAA quality games? Or whatever it is that sells the most, like open world, aRPG stuff.
I mean, there's a clear lack of talent/skill at Obsidian but it can't be just that. I assume.
And if not, then why not just close them down? Seems like a waste overall.
They gave them the resources to make a AAA quality game. Obsidian are deeply incompetent and squandered those resources. This game was in development for at least 5 years (it was their bait to get the Microsoft buyout in 2018), and it saw Obsidian dramatically scale up their headcount. They wanted to make a Skyrim clone with multiplayer and had to slash away at the scope because they don't know how to make such a game. The game's original director got replaced partway through development, and IIRC so did several of the leads. They eventually fell back on fantasy Outer Worlds, which is what Avoid is.
 

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This game was in development for at least 5 years (it was their bait to get the Microsoft buyout in 2018), and it saw Obsidian dramatically scale up their headcount. They wanted to make a Skyrim clone with multiplayer and had to slash away at the scope because they don't know how to make such a game. The game's original director got replaced partway through development, and IIRC so did several of the leads.
I haven't followed the story close enough so I didn't know this.
Hmm, well this sucks.
 

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Another thing that starts pissing me off about EVERY boss battle and half the bounties: adds appear out of thin air as if it was a bloody Dragon Age 2. I'm quite sure it wasn't a thing in Pillars games.
 

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It will be funny if MS will fire Fergus after this. Because for me it smells like a major bomba.

Even if everyone on Codex thought Veilguard was a great game it only achieved 50% of its sales target and that made Veilguard a financial failure which means Bioware failed
No.

A good company can make a good game which sells just as badly that they would not have failed.

What is important to investors isn't what is important to those who appreciate a good game when they see one.
 

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So I don't get something: why did MS buy Bethesda/Obsidian/whatever if they're not gonna give them the resources to make AAA quality games? Or whatever it is that sells the most, like open world, aRPG stuff.
I mean, there's a clear lack of talent/skill at Obsidian but it can't be just that. I assume.
And if not, then why not just close them down? Seems like a waste overall.
Josh Sawyer answered this in his first and I think only stream of Baldur's Gate 3, at about the time it came out. Someone asked the same thing in the chat. And he said that Obsidian could not make a game on such a scale as BG3, because it lacks the manpower and the organization.
 
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The Wall

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So I don't get something: why did MS buy Bethesda/Obsidian/whatever if they're not gonna give them the resources to make AAA quality games? Or whatever it is that sells the most, like open world, aRPG stuff.
I mean, there's a clear lack of talent/skill at Obsidian but it can't be just that. I assume.
And if not, then why not just close them down? Seems like a waste overall.
What if, HOLD for it, what if Microsoft is almost as equally retarded as Obsidian and other WOKE brain-rotted organizations are? And they have no clue, zero clue, nada, what they should do next. What if they are simply retarded, and source of their evil is being WOKE which turns people into evil retards. Retarded Evil

We are dealing with Retarded Evil. No, this might be slightly amusing to read or say, but yes that's literally the case. They are Retardedly Evil. Or Evilly Retarded
 

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Avowed looks like CGI commercial for shitty mobile game. Vomitty taste in art style, soulless crap shat by soulless milenial corpo zombies alergic to hard work and testosterone. Made for urban lesbians, the ones who look like Roguey profile pic. They also are set on fire and burning with rage when they see Trump or Musk on TV

Technologically game is below games from 20 years ago. Dead world, used as cardboard background for WOKE sermon with high school play production value that's being given to the player. It's Unreal slop, when you look at it you can smell the colour of hands who developed it, because capable Devs write their own engine or use heavily moddified one

King Lesbian Josh Woker wouldn't have made this any less shit. He's gone, as is ship Obsidian. Sunk under all the weight of cringe and betrayal of potential it ONCE had. 10+ years ago

Wake up. Year is 2025, and literal fish faggot blue nigger is the least cringe companion that you have to suffer playing this "RPG". Suffering is your choice. Much better things to do with your time
 

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So I was getting really sleepy but stayed up to confirm the download completed so when I went to bed I was thinking how am I going to bridge my adventures with Orange from DEADFIRE to AVOWED right because you can only play Elf or Godlike and Orange was a Dwarf from the Living Lands and I just came to the conflusion with the Wheel being broken I could not roleplay Orange becoming reincarnated to a new body but retain her memories and life experiences SO I decided that the world of Eora changed because of all the events Orange made happen


Thanks,
Sherry

Help me understand what this means, people.

I'm conflused.
 

The Wall

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So I was getting really sleepy but stayed up to confirm the download completed so when I went to bed I was thinking how am I going to bridge my adventures with Orange from DEADFIRE to AVOWED right because you can only play Elf or Godlike and Orange was a Dwarf from the Living Lands and I just came to the conflusion with the Wheel being broken I could not roleplay Orange becoming reincarnated to a new body but retain her memories and life experiences SO I decided that the world of Eora changed because of all the events Orange made happen


Thanks,
Sherry

Help me understand what this means, people.

I'm conflused.
Do not try to understand it lest you too become cringe squirrel that lives in Josh Sawyer's underwear and lovingly nibbles his nuts every night
 

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Hi.

Miriamele's journey continued, sorting out a number of smaller tasks she had offered to assist with, along with searching Paradis for main clues and people she needed to find and question as events really began to unfold around her. Kai knew of a friend who had skills that would come in handy in following a lead we had uncovered. Marius was now an integral part of the team and came with a wealth of knowledge about The Living Lands. Our search took us to seedy alleyways, underground hideouts, and soaring towers.

Paradis continues the beauty found outside of its walls, with rooftops to scale, hidden items to find, and a small handful of quests to complete. Its design is large in scope, but largely empty of life. Citizens stand around, shout, and at times have a conversation with each other you can listen in on, but that layer of depth to know what the citizens of Paradis feel is lacking. Opportunities to overhear a conversation about a particular region of the city would have gone a long way and put the player on their guard. Instead, you're told directly by a character standing near the entry to that part of the city and receive an earful of who is who, and what lines not to cross OR ELSE! :argh: It reminds me of Metro 2033 with such a wonderful backdrop you can only look at but never touch.

A VIEW OF PARADIS

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MIRIAMELE FELL THROUGH A CLOTH TARP :hahano:


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THE LIVING LANDS FRAMED

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SEEDY STREET

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BENEATH PARADIS

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Miriamele's adventure continues now in a new region called The Emerald Stair, and it will be this leg of her journey where we will touch base again. How will Miriamele fair in learning more about the Dreamscourge? Will the party be introduced to new friendships or lingering threats? What does The Emerald Stair have in store for the trio who have embarked on this perilous quest?

READY TO DEPART

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A STORM APPROACHES

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CROPS LIVES MATTER

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A NEW KIND OF FARMER

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Thanks,
Sherry
 

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So I was getting really sleepy but stayed up to confirm the download completed so when I went to bed I was thinking how am I going to bridge my adventures with Orange from DEADFIRE to AVOWED right because you can only play Elf or Godlike and Orange was a Dwarf from the Living Lands and I just came to the conflusion with the Wheel being broken I could not roleplay Orange becoming reincarnated to a new body but retain her memories and life experiences SO I decided that the world of Eora changed because of all the events Orange made happen


Thanks,
Sherry

Help me understand what this means, people.

I'm conflused.
That's what prolonged exposure to Obsidian does to you. Don't do drugs.
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Obsidian deserves RPG fatwa to be placed on it. Games they make now are heretical to ideals of Good RPG Design they once followed. Gameplay, Story Telling, Art. It's all parody lvl now

Pillars of Eternity is parody of old-skool Baldur's Gate. Avowed is parody of Pillars. Only clowns high on cope take parody of a parody seriously
 
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So I don't get something: why did MS buy Bethesda/Obsidian/whatever if they're not gonna give them the resources to make AAA quality games? Or whatever it is that sells the most, like open world, aRPG stuff.
I mean, there's a clear lack of talent/skill at Obsidian but it can't be just that. I assume.
And if not, then why not just close them down? Seems like a waste overall.
They want studios that produce Gamepass fodder.

They aren't particularly interested in setting the Metacritic on fire.
 

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