Baldur's Gate #BaldurGate: Siege of Dragonspear

[Lacrymas]

....a trans consultant. Why not get a consultant to write everything for them? This is getting ridiculous (if it wasn't already), the fuck are they talking about? It's not a "sensitive thing" and you are only neutering the writing if you turn it into one, ugh, they really are a buncha degenerates.

 

[Lyric Suite]

Just make sure the trans consultant in question isn't among those who criticized the game. We only care about the experiences of marginalized groups when their opinions reflect our own.

 

[Roguey]

Eh, it's just a way to grift.

"You need more x in your game."

"You're incapable of writing x properly. You need to pay me, a member of x, to go over your work and make critiques."

 

[SionIV]

The Dragonspear forum is filled with Transexual talk and Racial talk. There is a women there writing about how white people are the worst scum alive, and they are the reason for slavery and everything bad in the world.

"I don't know what you're saying here? It's about institutions. Whiteness is an institution. It was created to justify the treatment of other "Races" as lesser. That system exists. It's been well documented. It's not nonsensical to put "credence" in "ethnic background". White, black, etc. aren't just about different ethnic groups and we already established this."

"What's anti-unity is people denying the immense amount of damage people of their background have done to the rest of the world and pushing false equivalences that get in the way of understanding where these problems come from. "

"What white supremacy actually means, is the idea that whites hold some amount of inherent superiority to other races, and thus other races must work harder to prove themselves, and ultimately be subjugate to a white institution. This absolutely describes the US. Even your black president was rendered mostly toothless."

"Black and white supremacy are absolute incomparable because white supremacy is an actual system that exists and killed and enslaved millions of people."

 

[Excidium II]

Whiteys invented slavery.

 

[Mustawd]

white people are the worst scum alive, and they are the reason for slavery and everything bad in the world.

Sig-worthy

 

[SionIV]

I've been reading the Beamdog forum for an hour now, and I've found the best line so far. This is signature worthy.

"Is it just me, or does having David Gaider responding here add a whole new level of credibility to Beamdog?"

 

[prodigydancer]

reading the Beamdog forum for an hour

Warning: may cause severe brain damage.

Oh, and mandatory:

 

[SionIV]

reading the Beamdog forum for an hour

Warning: may cause severe brain damage.

Any damage it could inflict has already been done, I have something like 2 600 posts there.

I don't think that transexual girl will be writing/consulting for Beamdog anytime soon.


[Name] has been Jailed.

• Can't post discussions.
• Can't post as often.
• Signature hidden.

 

[Zorba the Hutt]

I've been reading the Beamdog forum for an hour now, and I've found the best line so far. This is signature worthy.

"Is it just me, or does having David Gaider responding here add a whole new level of credibility to Beamdog?"

After your talk about that forum I checked it out... won't be doing that again as I can't spare the sanity points. But did notice something interesting:

So the talented Mr/s/w/e Scott came in "after the crit path was locked in"... and has already been "promoted" to do marketing. I'm sure she'll be a big success in that role, but it seems a change of emphasis from her prominent position in interviews last year... like they're quietly moving her away from the keyboard. Guess we'll see, not that I'm particularly interested in their future releases now.

2 600 posts there

 

[Kaivokz]

"What white supremacy actually means, is the idea that whites hold some amount of inherent superiority to other races, and thus other races must work harder to prove themselves, and ultimately be subjugate to a white institution. This absolutely describes the US. Even your black president was rendered mostly toothless."

"White supremacy causes subjugation of other races in the US. I mean, just LOOK at your black president."

...

 

[SionIV]

https://forums.beamdog.com/discussion/51229/how-to-ruin-baldurs-gate/p1

This is the thread that Gaider is answering people in.

 

[prodigydancer]

Sounds like they got Biowares audience.

Beamdog: the road to triple A. Next step: acquisition by EA.

 

[Infinitron]

How to replicate the evolution of the Bioware forums over nine years in just nine days

 

[SionIV]

I've been reading the Beamdog forum for an hour now, and I've found the best line so far. This is signature worthy.

"Is it just me, or does having David Gaider responding here add a whole new level of credibility to Beamdog?"

After your talk about that forum I checked it out... won't be doing that again as I can't spare the sanity points. But did notice something interesting:

So the talented Mr/s/w/e Scott came in "after the crit path was locked in"... and has already been "promoted" to do marketing. I'm sure she'll be a big success in that role, but it seems a change of emphasis from her prominent position in interviews last year... like they're quietly moving her away from the keyboard. Guess we'll see, not that I'm particularly interested in their future releases now.

2 600 posts there

If you haven't already read Beamdogs statement on Siege of Dragonspear, it's here - https://forums.beamdog.com/discussion/51161/beamdog-statement-on-siege-of-dragonspear#latest

"While we appreciate all feedback we receive from our fans, both positive as well as negative, some of the negative feedback has focused not on Siege of Dragonspear but on individual developers at Beamdog -- to the point of online threats and harassment."

I wonder who those individual developers at Beamdog are.

"Minsc – Minsc has a line which generated controversy. Looking back on the line, we agree with the feedback from our community, it has nothing to do with his character and we will be removing the line. "

 

[Excidium II]

How to replicate the evolution of the Bioware forums over nine years in just nine days

 

[Zorba the Hutt]

Sounds like they got Biowares audience.

Beamdog: the road to triple A. Next step: acquisition by EA.

Or
Option B: Next step: follow in N-Space's footsteps to DnD heavan

 

[Mareus]

Just done a show with Rollplay podcast about Baldur's Gate controversy. They are pretty small, but always have awesome news when it comes to SJW developments in the gaming industry, so if anyone is interested here is the link:

 

[Roguey]

That Beamdog failed with their crit path without Scott's contributions just damns them even further.

 

[SionIV]

Amber Scott hasn't been online for almost a week now. There are posts everywhere about her, there are something like 40+ youtube videos that talk about her. Most people are painting her up as the scapegoat, even though she isn't the only one at fault. I have a feeling that this wasn't a good move for her career.

 

[Kem0sabe]

They ban any dissenter from their forums while letting these fucking white hating motherfuckers spew they propaganda unchecked.

 

[SionIV]

They ban any dissenter from their forums while letting these fucking white hating motherfuckers spew they propaganda unchecked.

I'm trying to be very diplomatic, to avoid getting a warning or banned, but I'm very open in sharing my displeasure.

 

[Dreaad]

I don't get it.

Why any company would willingly attempt to cater to people who don't even play games, they just love self loathing and moral speeches. Then Beamdog acts surprised and hurt when their release tanks.

Fuck man, it doesn't take a PR genius to figure out promoting highly volatile topics in your products is a terrible idea. Why not just fucking give Viconia an abortion scene, change Minsk's skin color to black and give Irenicus several speeches about atheism while you're at it.

 

[SionIV]

Makes you wonder how David Gaider is feeling about his move to Beamdog.

 

[Bubbles]

Amber Scott hasn't been online for almost a week now. There are posts everywhere about her, there are something like 40+ youtube videos that talk about her. Most people are painting her up as the scapegoat, even though she isn't the only one at fault.

She's also in charge of Beamdog's marketing and customer service department, so she's basically charged with handling the corporate messaging on her own "scandal". Must be a hell of a job.