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Codex review when? I want to see the reaction on the Beamdog Forums to it.
Well unless Infinitron is trolling VD is going to take the high road. That's going to be no fun at all.

VD's got nothing to do with it (since when does he touch Baldur's Gate games). The reviewer is Delterius.
 

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We need a Roxor review to truly determine if SoD is more fun that POE.
It is better than PoE even though some of the writing is wonky and just plain boring (it seems that some of the dialogue exists just for the sake of having dialogue). But Beamdog fucked themselves really hard by pandering to SJWs and releasing it in a buggy mess (and hiring Amber Scott).

You reap what you sow.
 

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TechRaptor received a statement from Beamdog CEO Trent Oster that lambasts the pot-shots taken at Dragonspear without identifying or resolving the root of the complaint:

I find the controversy ridiculous. Yes, we have a transgendered character. I know a number of transgendered people and they are genuine, wonderful humans. Yes, we also have a character who cracks a joke about ethics. The original Baldur’s Gate had a whole sequence about the Bob Newhart show. If this generates controversy it makes a sad statement about the world we live in.

Did Oster even play the original Baldur's Gate? The Larry, Darryl and Darryl reference was to Newhart (1982), not The Bob Newhart Show (1972). No wonder everyone is pissed.
 

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I am a freelance writer in the roleplaying game industry, working with such companies as Paizo Publishing, Wizards of the Coast, and White Wolf.

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11 years of this shit... if any resume ever screamed a dead career and a severe lack of talent, it would be this.

This x 1,000.

Codexers railing on this in this thread should be embarrassed. I just met the transsexual or whatever they're called these days. It was a stupid NPC, but I've seen far, far worse in video games. It would have been nice to have been an asshole to her, but whatever. It didn't ruin my day. Get over it.

Thats not the issue. The issue is that their writer disrespected the source material by wanting to inject her own political beliefs into an existing game narrative, while demeaning the work of the original writers.

Her forum posts show quite clearly that she doesnt give two fucks about the setting, the original games and their legacy, they are only there as backdrop for her agenda.
 

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Her forum posts show quite clearly that she doesnt give two fucks about the setting, the original games and their legacy, they are only there as backdrop for her agenda.

I think she's just incompetent to be honest. I doubt she has this master plan of promoting her agenda, besides, artists with agendas are pretty much the only kind of artists after the 17th century. Beethoven was promoting equality for all in his 9th symphony ("Alle Menschen werden Brüder", duh), the difference is that the 9th symphony is a gigantic work of genius unparalleled in his time. If SoD was as well the tranny would be a completely different story.
 

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I think she's just incompetent to be honest. I doubt she has this master plan of promoting her agenda, besides, artists with agendas are pretty much the only kind of artists after the 17th century. Beethoven was promoting equality for all in his 9th symphony ("Alle Menschen werden Brüder", duh), the difference is that the 9th symphony is a gigantic work of genius unparalleled in his time. If SoD was as well the tranny would be a completely different story.

She is probably a quota, hired for her opinions. She really think she is a smart girl, shouting shit Sarkeesian and others shout, who also think they are smart. But it is all some fat professor guy somewhere who written a book about it or similar. They are dumb people, parroting this and forcing it into anything they do in life, from work to hobbies to partners and food. If she was an employee at Burger King she would some how implement this shit in a burger.
 

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Her forum posts show quite clearly that she doesnt give two fucks about the setting, the original games and their legacy, they are only there as backdrop for her agenda.

I think she's just incompetent to be honest. I doubt she has this master plan of promoting her agenda, besides, artists with agendas are pretty much the only kind of artists after the 17th century. Beethoven was promoting equality for all in his 9th symphony ("Alle Menschen werden Brüder", duh), the difference is that the 9th symphony is a gigantic work of genius unparalleled in his time. If SoD was as well the tranny would be a completely different story.
I'm not saying you mean that, but I doubt Beethoven included the trannies. I can agree with him on the menschen. Menschen - yes, trannies - no.

If you guys want to know where Amber Scott came from you can just check: https://www.linkedin.com/in/amber-scott-286a3168
Infinitron, don't invite codexers to start bringing out their own resumes, might lead to some unpleasant comparisons...
:troll:
 

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Gaider knew.



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Hey cleric thanks for the creepy unsolicited life story, but why didn't you just buy a fucking potion of sexchange? If my time during my teen years on Bioware's Neverwinter Nights multiplayer 'social' servers taught me anything...

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Ed has gone on record as saying that there are plenty of queer characters in his Realms, and that editorial has prevented him from publishing anywhere near as many as he would like. That includes trans characters. Ed and the other long-time Realms writers have snuck in what they can. For example, Eric Boyd hid a trans character in Faiths and Pantheons.

We don't have details of transitioning in the Realms. We know it's a thing, and we know it takes some time from the above example, but we don't know how it happens. Neither the belt (a puerile transmisogynistic joke that isn't actually from the Realms) nor Elminster's time as Elmara (specifically echoing the myth of Tiresias) are representative of actual trans lives.

Personally, as a trans person, I think it's something a deity fixes for their worshippers. We know that deities do take steps to protect the health of their church, and deific intervention in people's lives is rare but not unheard of. I don't think you talk to a priest, you just pray to your patron deity hard enough, and it happens.

No matter what the answer is, the character in SoD is perfectly fine and canonically appropriate. It's an example of good representation and a good addition to the series.

As for the endgame spoiler,

Beamdog are fan-fiction-bad hacks. I don't care about playing fast and loose with levels in gamey RPGs, but AD&D took its pseudo-sim seriously. Nerfing a character who existed in a previous game so a lower-level party can kill it is bullshit.
 

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Jesus Christ, how many threads hijacked by this issue do you guys need.

There is the GG thread, the news thread discussing this, the release thread discussing this.
 
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Jesus Christ, how many threads hijacked by this issue do you guys need.

There is the GG thread, the news thread discussing this, the release thread discussing this.
Every thread!!

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Jesus Christ, how many threads hijacked by this issue do you guys need.

There is the GG thread, the news thread discussing this, the release thread discussing this.

You could start a "combat discussion-only" thread but I doubt it'd get very far (on account of combat being worthless because Beamdog are a bunch of hacks who will change established monster stats).
 

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Jesus Christ, how many threads hijacked by this issue do you guys need.

There is the GG thread, the news thread discussing this, the release thread discussing this.
Jesus Christ, how many games hijacked by these issues do these guys need.

There is Dragon Age, Sunset , Gone Home hijacked by this.
 

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Jesus Christ, how many threads hijacked by this issue do you guys need.

There is the GG thread, the news thread discussing this, the release thread discussing this.
Jesus Christ, how many games hijacked by these issues do these guys need.

There is Dragon Age, Sunset , Gone Home hijacked by this.

My favorite part about Gone Home was the combat. Too bad all the SJWness ruined it.
 

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Codex review when? I want to see the reaction on the Beamdog Forums to it.
Well unless Infinitron is trolling VD is going to take the high road. That's going to be no fun at all.

VD's got nothing to do with it (since when does he touch Baldur's Gate games). The reviewer is Delterius.


#I'mOkayWithThis

Meh. Everyone knows Delterius is just one of VD's alts.
 

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I honestly don't care if the writer injects their politics into the art they are working on. Though I may disagree with some of Amber Scott's opinions, I disagree with a lot of people's views so I won't let that stop me from enjoying it.

What will stop me is if the campaign sucks like a heaping turd.

So...how is it?
 

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Honestly I had no idea who the Amber Scott person was until the name was posted here. When I googled Amber Scott, I thought they hired the actress from freaking Hook.
 

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We're clearly winning this round, Beamdog is on defensive. The mere existence of dissatisfied threads in such numbers on their forums is a big plus for us, even if these threads are eventually overrun with SJWs. We need to keep talking and try to get some direct answers from Trent and Amber, held them accountable.
 

pippin

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"We"?

Anyway, I do think nothing will come out of this, nobody will learn anything, and people will keep releasing games. Just like every other release before this one.
I do not see them getting more cred or even money for more D&D products. Probably they'll join n-space in hell.
 

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So...how is it?

Shall we simplify this? I think so.

This is a reunion show starring some of your favorite characters, but without any of the original production staff, and the replacements are just whoever the studio could grab from the hallway on short notice in order to make a quick cash-in. So, the usual sort of reunion show, with poor direction, poor arrangement, technical errors like the boom showing, and all the rest, with only numerous references to the original and the old cast to counterbalance the ineptitude.

But if you half close your eyes and pretend really hard, and you're a little simple-minded, you might be able to make yourself believe it's 1999 again. Same as any other reunion show.
 

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